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01-06-2012, 02:05 PM | #276 | |
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01-06-2012, 03:06 PM | #277 |
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I saw este brawn harass Eddie Jordan. True story.
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01-06-2012, 03:20 PM | #278 | |
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In qualifying, the drivers were able to trim out the DRS all around the track, not just in the DRS zone. So the Red Bull was able to run more trimmed out in that single flying lap, giving them an advantage. Come race time, The Red Bull had a bit more rear wing around the track (excluding the DRS zone) so the McLaren had a bit of advantage in the race and was able to grab back some of that .5 to .75 second advantage Vettel always pulled out in qualifying. I'll try to find the article. Found it: http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2011/0...e-in-the-race/ Last edited by Draken; 01-06-2012 at 03:26 PM. |
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01-06-2012, 03:49 PM | #279 |
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That is true, Red Bull went contrarian and optimized DRS for qualifying (remember they had it open exiting turn 8 at istanbul and nobody else did that) at the expense of it being less effective in the race.
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01-06-2012, 04:25 PM | #280 | |
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01-06-2012, 04:28 PM | #281 | |
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Vettel alone among the front runners seemed able to unlock the Pirellis full potential from the off. Webber with the same equipment could not. You simply have no idea how much or how little speed he had in reserve but it stands to reason he was winning at the slowest speed possible to save not only the tires but the car. Par for the course in F1. Interesting that the few times he was put under serious pressure he made mistakes...something I suspect he'll be working to fix over the holiday...like he figured out between 2010 and 2011 that NOT running into people while overtaking is better then bashing around like a Formula Ford rookie. Good start, stellar first lap, build on that. While Sebastian at times made it look easy it still was nowhere near as dominant on race pace as Schumacher in early 2000s, or Williams in the early 1990s, or McLaren at the end of the 1980s. Vettel never lapped the entire field while cruising... |
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01-06-2012, 06:08 PM | #282 | |
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01-06-2012, 07:45 PM | #283 | |
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01-06-2012, 08:38 PM | #284 | ||
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01-06-2012, 08:38 PM | #285 | |
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01-06-2012, 09:42 PM | #286 | |
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So now it was significantly held back by the Pirellis? You're making this assumption that putting the Red Bull on a more durable tire would have handed it a greater advantage over everyone else...who would also be on a durable tire (control tires in F1) so where does that lead again? For all you know the Red Bull might have hated a harder tire. The Ferrari certainly did. So what? Some get it right, some don't. Yes the Red Bull won a lot of polls and races this year in Vettel's hands but it was nowhere near as dominant a machine compared to the rest of the field as those I mentioned earlier. Sorry but it just wasn't, not on race pace, not even close. Who's speculating? Vettel had one lap pace nailed last year while Webber didn't...and being something he's (Mark) is known for it's worth some thought. Why did Seb click and Mark didn't this past year? Damn good question that and I wonder if it goes back to Sebastian being the only driver to visit with Pirelli during the off-season. Obviously it didn't hurt Whatever, nobody is trying to say the Red Bull wasn't the dominant car last year...results prove it was, but the degree of it's dominance has been way over blown, at least on Sundays. |
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01-06-2012, 10:57 PM | #287 | |
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01-07-2012, 11:39 AM | #288 |
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How do most of you guys watch F1?
I will likely be sampling some of the BBC / Sky Sports coverage next year as I get really frustrated with the US coverage. Here is a Sky Sports' first intro to their coverage: http://www.skysports.com/video/inlin...415542,00.html pretty well done. |
01-07-2012, 12:47 PM | #289 | |
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01-07-2012, 07:04 PM | #290 |
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I watch the streaming Speed coverage...and with no commentary it's like being in heaven...via laptop to bigscreen with an HDMI cable. Also worked great for all the ALMS races last year...well when they managed a steady stream it did.
very handy when there's a conflict, like Montreal GP and LeMans...tv tuned to Speed for LeMans while streaming F1. -sorry about the silly clicky clicky noise, I was messing around with an app Then it's the regular Speed broadcast which typically starts out fantastic for FP2 then gradually goes downhill the rest of the weekend. I always look forward to the races Varsha misses since Leigh DiffyDippy is worlds more professional when calling a race. I enjoyed Matchett and Hobbs a lot more in 2011 then I have in the past for whatever reason although Steve still has the habit of always starting form absolute zero when describing ANY and EVERY topic. We need a drinking game for every time Matchett says, "...and if you're new to F1..." Last edited by Ferg; 01-07-2012 at 07:16 PM. |
01-07-2012, 07:13 PM | #291 |
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I'm going to miss the BBC build ups. I haven't read up, but I hope Sky keeps the commercial free coverage.
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01-07-2012, 08:20 PM | #292 |
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01-07-2012, 08:32 PM | #293 | |
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I absolutely hate Varsha. |
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01-07-2012, 09:04 PM | #294 |
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Wait. Speed streams the races live without commentary?
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01-08-2012, 10:12 AM | #295 | |
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I believe that was FP2.
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Based on that, I don't believe you have to give them room for the rest of the lap because of this blocking. I believe his beef is the fact we can't prove it was held back by the tires more than the other cars, and there is no way to prove this either way. He doesn't like discussions like this since, in his view, its just a waste of time. |
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01-08-2012, 10:14 AM | #296 |
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Love the Speed coverage, don't know why people seem to hate Varsha so much. Of course I've only ever seen F1 with Varsha and this current setup. I try to watch some of the races live, but my work schedule is all over the place so the DVR gets programmed to record all F1, MotoGP, WSBK, and AMA Super Bike events - practice, qualifying, the races. That way I can watch whenever I want.
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01-08-2012, 10:15 AM | #297 | |
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I hope 2012 can be better for them, I loved them in 2006/2007. |
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01-08-2012, 10:33 AM | #298 | |
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I thought Speed only streamed FP1 and FP3 online. |
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01-08-2012, 10:33 AM | #299 |
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For you guys saying the BBC crew is better, no thanks. Brundle never shuts his mouth and is extremely opinionated, which would be fine if he still played the analyst part, but he doesn't. I haven't heard who Sky is going with, but hopefully Ben Edwards gets his chance, because he's long overdue for an F1 gig. I do agree that Speed's lineup is stale. Bob seems like he's checking out a little bit mentally. From what little I saw of Hobbs this year, he's not stuttering and repeating other people as much as 2010, but it's still annoying. Leigh Diffey, Tommy Kendall, and Matchett would be dynamite. Failing that, I'd love to see Marshall Pruett in Matchett's role. Just keep Scott Pruett away.
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+1 for Leigh.
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