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Old 05-23-2001, 11:43 AM   #1
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Question Suggestions for my system...bring it on!

Right now my setup is budget and ghetto, i admit, and its time for some new gear. here's the current rundown :

kenwood KMD71 headunit
kenwood 4042 EQ
kwnwood eXcelon 201 amp (100x2)
Infinity Refrence 6.5 components front
Infinity Refrence 5.25 rear in the doors of my OBS

right now the amp is bridged, left channel goes up front and right goes to the rear. I need suggestions for speaker upgrades (better than what i have but not to break the bank) and how i should wire it.

Im thinking that i will get real good components for the front and just have the amp push those, and have the headunit push the rears. Does this make sense? would i want it the other way around? (amp for the rear speakers) any help would be appreciated.

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Old 05-23-2001, 01:25 PM   #2
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No, you're on the right path. Get a really good front stage(within your budget) and amplify that appropriately. Rear should just be "rear fill". Especially if you're thinking of adding a sub eventually. If your amp is really pushing 100watts RMX x2, then I'd keep it. Run your fronts off that(a good 6.5 component set). Keep your rear speakers. Sell the fronts to get some money for decent replacements. Do you think you'll be getting a sub eventually, or is that a ways off, or never? If not, then look for some front stage that have a smooth sound all across the range. If you think you'll be getting a sub, I'd look for something with very powerful mid-bass. The problem is, the ones that are going to sound the best, are going to be deep, and require spacers to fit in the door(not tremendously difficult to do either). I was quoted $50 to install the fronts with custom, angled spacers(angled the speaker a little back towards me). I'd look at Alpine's SPR135's. They're relatively cheap, and sound good. Also try out Boston Acoustics. I'd suggest MB Quarts, if you are going to get a sub, otherwise, the mid-bass might be a little too punchy without one.

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Old 05-23-2001, 02:08 PM   #3
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You're not going to get THAT big a difference going with nicer components. If you just add a second amp (get one with preamp in and outs and it's a cinch to add) and a decent 10" sub and you're set. Unless of course you want a competition grade SQ or SPL machine.

But for general listening, unless you're going to spend thousands, I think you're on the right track.
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Old 05-23-2001, 06:00 PM   #4
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Ehhh I dunno, I tend to disagree on that one.
I had (in my old '94 Integra) Kenwood KFC-P602 component speakers in the front, with aluminum tweeters. They went for like $120 through Crutchfield, but I'd bought them at a shop in Salem, NH for about $80. They were alright, but... way too bright, and not very good.

I upgraded to a set of Boston Acoustics RC61 (OLD Rally 6.5" components... and I STILL like the old better than the new; the new ones seem to sound flat). BIG, BIG difference. Soft dome tweeter, first of all, which I MUCH prefer. Much more accurate sound reproduction, IMO. One of the bigger differences you'll get is from a cleaner amp, but that's kinda expensive.

Try getting a set of the old BAs. They'll be on a good sale.

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Old 05-23-2001, 08:41 PM   #5
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Siper2, I think you mentioned a key word there. Prefer. Some people might like super bright highs (who, I don't know ).

IMPREZAmike - The important thing is to listen to any speakers you are thinking of buying before you actually buy. It may not be worth the money to you. Personally, I would go for a nice amp and sub if you can afford it. Nice bass adds so much and IMO helps if you do have bright tweeters by evening them out some.

Some random thoughts,

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Old 05-23-2001, 08:59 PM   #6
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For components get boston acoustics pro 6.5 2 way set. There expensive but worth it. If you make it to the one of the New England meets let me know and I'll show you my set.

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Old 05-23-2001, 09:30 PM   #7
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Heh, there's another preference. See I actually like my Rally series better than the Pros. Those dang aluminum tweeters, again. heh

Pro midbass and Old Rally tweeters would be awesome. Pros are great speakers but they're very, very power hungry. Lots more cash too. Try both, Rally and Pro. Actually, Polk makes nice speakers, too. I like them. Not sure what kind of tweeters they use for their lines, but I like them, whatever they are.

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Old 05-24-2001, 07:32 AM   #8
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Thanks for the advise guys. Right now, i cant drop the cash for another amp and sub, but id like to (just like most people would im sure) so i'll be hitting up some new components. I will definatelly check out the BA, just need to find a store that has them. Thanks again!

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Old 05-24-2001, 02:47 PM   #9
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Tweeter, Etc. may have a store in Albany...
hmm... Actually I know for a fact that in the Crossgates Mall there's a store on the second floor, somewhere near the food court, that sells some good hifi stuff, and BA is on their list. Go in there and check on the price of the old Rally components. Should be a discount since they're discontinued.
To give you an idea, I got my RC61s (6.5" woofer) for $220, brand new. That's in NH with no tax.

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Old 05-24-2001, 05:23 PM   #10
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Thanks Siper - i know exactlly what store you are talking about...its god some good stuff at good prices....i'll check it this weekend.

i priced the Pro vs Rally series and there is like a 150-$200 difference! is this just cuz the Rallys are discontinued?

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No, the Pro Series were intended to be higher upmarket. Better quality woofers, can handle TONS of power (and really need a lot to sound right)... Lots of people just like the way the old Rally speakers sound better, though. I think it's the tweeters.
Soft-dome versus aluminum. I think if the Pros had silk tweeters, they'd be one of the absolute best speakers out there.

Pro woofers and old Rally tweeters. That'd be a nice match!

The New Rally series some folks like better, others don't. I hear they use foam surrounds now, versus rubber, but that may be wrong. Something about them just sounds much flatter... maybe it's the crossovers, I dunno.

If you can get the old Rally series for a good price, go for it!!! My 6.5" ones are in kick panels, but they're big... most two-way speakers that end up in kick panels are the 5.75" variety. So I'd probably recommend the RC51s if you want to keep the size down. They'd cost less, too.

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Old 05-25-2001, 07:01 PM   #12
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I'm running Infinity Reference series 6.5" in the front and rear and I'm more than happy with the sound, the front is a component set and the tweets are so crisp and clean...with two Infinity Reference 8" in a band pass box

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