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Samurai Jack · 12-03-2011, 11:32 AM

Are you saying that '02 ECUs, once they have ECUTek installed are locked, or are you saying IF the '02 ECU was locked, THEN it can never be unlocked?

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EvoScan · 12-03-2011, 10:52 PM

What does locked mean anyway? an ecutek passcode in the flash sequence. can't you just bypass the passcode anyway by flashing original rom in the back doorto the microcontroller, or figure out the passcode like someone on openecu.org did for mitsubishi reflashes over the top of ecutek? in fact you can even read EcuTek flashes this way.. they are too conservative anyway, everyone throws them away as soon as they see it, and they only have a few hours to tune your car, they don't have as much time as you do.. you know your engine maintenance best. get more power

self tune!

Vlad · 12-04-2011, 09:34 AM

So in the flashing of an ecutek-ed ECU, as the lines of code proceed in the window from Ecuflash, it gets to a point, it stops and pops a window asking for the code?
Or there's a line asking for the passcode?
And then all reflashes would have the same code, or the procedure to find the code is always the same?

Now, what you describe is not similar with the procedure to un-brick an ECU, with soldering and what not, right?

Visconti · 12-09-2011, 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samurai Jack

Are you saying that '02 ECUs, once they have ECUTek installed are locked, or are you saying IF the '02 ECU was locked, THEN it can never be unlocked?

Correct

Visconti · 12-09-2011, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vlad

So in the flashing of an ecutek-ed ECU, as the lines of code proceed in the window from Ecuflash, it gets to a point, it stops and pops a window asking for the code?
Or there's a line asking for the passcode?
And then all reflashes would have the same code, or the procedure to find the code is always the same?

Now, what you describe is not similar with the procedure to un-brick an ECU, with soldering and what not, right?

Idk what your talking about... Lol

Vlad · 12-09-2011, 09:16 AM

It's the procedure of Un-bricking a 16 Bit ECU, lol

Visconti · 12-09-2011, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vlad

Have you read about the procedure of Un-bricking a 16 Bit ECU? lol

I've heard and read on how to brick a 32but ecu not a 16bit.

BUT the security for the 02 ecu is not in the rom / flash so I don't think that would work.

On all other ecus the security aka "lock" is in the rom file it self

If it was possible it would have been done years ago, it's not sry

Vlad · 12-09-2011, 09:55 AM

Ok, how does the ECU that has the security on the ROM (post '02) behave?

When you're reflashing it, does it give you a message, does it prompt you to enter a code? that was my question.

Visconti · 12-09-2011, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vlad

Ok, how does the ECU that has the security on the ROM (post '02) behave?

When you're reflashing it, does it give you a message, does it prompt you to enter a code? that was my question.

Lol no

No subie flashing software asks for a code.

Ecu flash is just like Ecutek . Woks exactly the same way.

Click flash, click read that's it

Vlad · 12-09-2011, 11:16 AM

Ok, maybe I've not been clear:

-You have an Ecutek ECU, newer than '02
-You want to flash it with ECUFlash (It's just like Ecutek), using the Tactrix cable.

You said:
"On all other ECUs the security aka "lock" is in the rom file itself", so we know there's a lock there, in the rom of this ECU, from Ecutek.

-You click Write to the ECU, in Ecuflash, using the Tactrix cable.
You said:
"that's it", which means that the flashing process is completed undisturbed and at the end, your replacement ROM is in place.

Basically you reflash an 03+ Ecutek ECU, with Ecuflash and the security lock from Ecutek does not stop this.

Good to know, seems like others are not able to do this..

Visconti · 12-09-2011, 11:41 AM

All ecus are locked from the manufacture. Every car every ecu. It's been reverse engineered that's all.

Ecuflash, Cobb & EcuTek knows how to get in it etc.

When EcuTek programs the ecu security is changed so the tune and ecuteks custom ecu logic isn't taken out via Ecuflash.

Cobb does the same thing on 04+ cars, the big difference is the customer owns a hand held and can remove it anytime he wants. EcuTek doesn't have a handheld, just a flash cable that can be purchased by the customer...no one ever buys them. So when they want to switch or remove they need to find a Ecutek dealer.

02-03 ecus are the same, no one has ever been able to explain what's different about them.

But like I said before, if you have a car and need Ecutek taken off let me know and I'll help you out the best I can.

-John

erikengland · 05-04-2012, 11:37 AM

This may not be the appropriate forum for this question, but im going to ask away..
I am trying to purchase an OBD-2 sensor and cabes so I can self tune. Ive searched around for compatible sensors on the net.
Is there a product that anyone would recommend?

RallyImprezive · 08-31-2012, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erikengland

This may not be the appropriate forum for this question, but im going to ask away..
I am trying to purchase an OBD-2 sensor and cabes so I can self tune. Ive searched around for compatible sensors on the net.
Is there a product that anyone would recommend?

Wow bud, not only are you in a completely unrelated section, you did a really piss-poor job of looking around.

Where you want to be is here:
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=177

and READ THIS STICKY: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1410201

Dirtrace95 · 12-06-2012, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Visconti

All ecus are locked from the manufacture. Every car every ecu. It's been reverse engineered that's all.

Ecuflash, Cobb & EcuTek knows how to get in it etc.

When EcuTek programs the ecu security is changed so the tune and ecuteks custom ecu logic isn't taken out via Ecuflash.

Cobb does the same thing on 04+ cars, the big difference is the customer owns a hand held and can remove it anytime he wants. EcuTek doesn't have a handheld, just a flash cable that can be purchased by the customer...no one ever buys them. So when they want to switch or remove they need to find a Ecutek dealer.

02-03 ecus are the same, no one has ever been able to explain what's different about them.

But like I said before, if you have a car and need Ecutek taken off let me know and I'll help you out the best I can.

-John

Have any help for a bricked ecu ??? The wrong map from a different model
was loaded now it wont start and It will not let me load the right map in.
All it says is error when I try to load new map in. Working on a 06 WRX

glyne · 05-24-2015, 05:03 PM

Very informative. Does is issue also applies to the 08/09 STI?

swanng · 05-30-2018, 11:50 AM

I once had a beautiful '02 bugeye wagon that was flashed by Vishnu with an EcuTek. I regretted it ever since. If I could wipe Vishnu, Shiv, and EcuTek from the face of the earth, I would.

Rant over.

Speedster96 · 04-26-2021, 09:11 AM

I have an EcuTec ECM tune that I want to change due to new equipment. The original tuner has gone out of business. I brought the car to another EcuTec tuner and they were not able to flash the ECM saying they did not have the first tuner’s license code, effectively making the tune locked. This doesn’t make sense to me. Does anyone know how to delete the EcuTek tune and overwrite it?

elan26r · 11-26-2021, 07:20 PM

It seems EcuTEK is over protecting their code. Shouldn't any such company give you the option to (always) return to original/stock?

12-03-2011, 10:52 PM	#427
EvoScan Scooby Newbie Member#: 286622 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: www.evoscan.com	What does locked mean anyway? an ecutek passcode in the flash sequence. can't you just bypass the passcode anyway by flashing original rom in the back doorto the microcontroller, or figure out the passcode like someone on openecu.org did for mitsubishi reflashes over the top of ecutek? in fact you can even read EcuTek flashes this way.. they are too conservative anyway, everyone throws them away as soon as they see it, and they only have a few hours to tune your car, they don't have as much time as you do.. you know your engine maintenance best. get more power self tune! Last edited by EvoScan; 12-04-2011 at 12:44 AM.

05-04-2012, 11:37 AM	#437
erikengland Scooby Newbie Member#: 318868 Join Date: May 2012	Obd-2 This may not be the appropriate forum for this question, but im going to ask away.. I am trying to purchase an OBD-2 sensor and cabes so I can self tune. Ive searched around for compatible sensors on the net. Is there a product that anyone would recommend?

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12-03-2011, 11:32 AM	#426
Samurai Jack Scooby Guru Member#: 21145 Join Date: Jul 2002 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Not in my own time Vehicle: 2002 Enemy of Aku	Are you saying that '02 ECUs, once they have ECUTek installed are locked, or are you saying IF the '02 ECU was locked, THEN it can never be unlocked? * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

12-04-2011, 09:34 AM	#428
Vlad Scooby Guru Member#: 46135 Join Date: Oct 2003 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: NY Vehicle: 19 GLA45 AMG C63 AMG	So in the flashing of an ecutek-ed ECU, as the lines of code proceed in the window from Ecuflash, it gets to a point, it stops and pops a window asking for the code? Or there's a line asking for the passcode? And then all reflashes would have the same code, or the procedure to find the code is always the same? Now, what you describe is not similar with the procedure to un-brick an ECU, with soldering and what not, right?

12-09-2011, 09:16 AM	#431
Vlad Scooby Guru Member#: 46135 Join Date: Oct 2003 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: NY Vehicle: 19 GLA45 AMG C63 AMG	It's the procedure of Un-bricking a 16 Bit ECU, lol

12-09-2011, 09:55 AM	#433
Vlad Scooby Guru Member#: 46135 Join Date: Oct 2003 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: NY Vehicle: 19 GLA45 AMG C63 AMG	Ok, how does the ECU that has the security on the ROM (post '02) behave? When you're reflashing it, does it give you a message, does it prompt you to enter a code? that was my question.

12-09-2011, 11:16 AM	#435
Vlad Scooby Guru Member#: 46135 Join Date: Oct 2003 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: NY Vehicle: 19 GLA45 AMG C63 AMG	Ok, maybe I've not been clear: -You have an Ecutek ECU, newer than '02 -You want to flash it with ECUFlash (It's just like Ecutek), using the Tactrix cable. You said: "On all other ECUs the security aka "lock" is in the rom file itself", so we know there's a lock there, in the rom of this ECU, from Ecutek. -You click Write to the ECU, in Ecuflash, using the Tactrix cable. You said: "that's it", which means that the flashing process is completed undisturbed and at the end, your replacement ROM is in place. Basically you reflash an 03+ Ecutek ECU, with Ecuflash and the security lock from Ecutek does not stop this. Good to know, seems like others are not able to do this..

12-09-2011, 11:41 AM	#436
Visconti Former Vendor Member#: 156247 Join Date: Aug 2007 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Norwalk, CT Vehicle: 14' Flex Fuel FXT 15' Flex Fuel WRX	All ecus are locked from the manufacture. Every car every ecu. It's been reverse engineered that's all. Ecuflash, Cobb & EcuTek knows how to get in it etc. When EcuTek programs the ecu security is changed so the tune and ecuteks custom ecu logic isn't taken out via Ecuflash. Cobb does the same thing on 04+ cars, the big difference is the customer owns a hand held and can remove it anytime he wants. EcuTek doesn't have a handheld, just a flash cable that can be purchased by the customer...no one ever buys them. So when they want to switch or remove they need to find a Ecutek dealer. 02-03 ecus are the same, no one has ever been able to explain what's different about them. But like I said before, if you have a car and need Ecutek taken off let me know and I'll help you out the best I can. -John

05-24-2015, 05:03 PM	#440
glyne Scooby Newbie Member#: 196686 Join Date: Dec 2008 Chapter/Region: International Location: St.Lucia Vehicle: 2008 wrx sti metalic gray	Very informative. Does is issue also applies to the 08/09 STI?

05-30-2018, 11:50 AM	#441
swanng Scooby Newbie Member#: 87154 Join Date: May 2005 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: Central California Vehicle: 2014 STI Hatch WR Blue Pearl	I once had a beautiful '02 bugeye wagon that was flashed by Vishnu with an EcuTek. I regretted it ever since. If I could wipe Vishnu, Shiv, and EcuTek from the face of the earth, I would. Rant over.

04-26-2021, 09:11 AM	#442
Speedster96 Scooby Newbie Member#: 503160 Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio	I have an EcuTec ECM tune that I want to change due to new equipment. The original tuner has gone out of business. I brought the car to another EcuTec tuner and they were not able to flash the ECM saying they did not have the first tuner’s license code, effectively making the tune locked. This doesn’t make sense to me. Does anyone know how to delete the EcuTek tune and overwrite it?

11-26-2021, 07:20 PM	#443
elan26r Scooby Newbie Member#: 527528 Join Date: Nov 2021	It seems EcuTEK is over protecting their code. Shouldn't any such company give you the option to (always) return to original/stock?