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Old 04-12-2019, 02:16 PM   #226
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nothing fancy, coils are "holley labeled"
Going to use circuit for air pump to drive the coils
That's a handy circuit -- my tuner used it to power my underhood surge tank.
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Old 04-12-2019, 02:52 PM   #227
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Anton, you got me all excited again about the STi platform. I've been flat-lining but I like what you've been doing and working with. I may have to steal some of your ideas.
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Old 04-12-2019, 11:31 PM   #228
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Anton, you got me all excited again about the STi platform. I've been flat-lining but I like what you've been doing and working with. I may have to steal some of your ideas.
Kelly please do, I wish I had time to do guides
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Old 04-14-2019, 09:21 AM   #229
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wonder if i can ship them the sti coil for test and all the aftermarket pos coils that state they are way more powerful
I'd send blacks and greys.
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Old 04-14-2019, 10:28 AM   #230
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The man in Cosmo racing said that their coils output is 47mj
He send me data sheet
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Old 04-14-2019, 11:12 AM   #231
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Your new Holley coils look identical to the AEM High Output IGBT Inductive “smart coils”. Short list of the aem features:

Massive Spark Energy, up to 103 mJ!
Incredibly long spark duration, up to 2.9mS!
Up to 40kV Output Voltage, without a CDI!
Weather and Shockproof design
Can be mounted directly to the Engine

Specifications:
Output (no load): 40kV minimum
Output (50pF load): 40kV +/- 10%
Output Energy: 103 mJ +/- 7%
Peak Secondary Current: 102 mA +/- 10%
Arc Duration: 2.9mS +/- 10%
Turns Ratio 71:1
Maximum Current: 19 Amps
Maximum Battery Voltage: 17 Volts
Base Dwell: 3.0 mS
Max Continuous Dwell: 9 mS but don't exceed 40% duty cycle
Max Intermittent Dwell: 80% duty cycle, 5 seconds maximum
Mating Connector: Packard/Delphi 12162825 Pull to Seat
Mating Contacts: Packard/Delphi 12124075 Pull to Seat
High Tension Wire Terminal: HEI spark plug top Style

I think your on the right track with these. I am interested to see how you wire them, from the specs it looks like they have the power to light any size turbo up lol. I’d like to use these with the stock ecu (dwell tables adjusted for them etc) the thin gauge stock wiring sounds like a problem though.
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Old 04-14-2019, 12:04 PM   #232
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The man in Cosmo racing said that their coils output is 47mj
He send me data sheet
i find that very hard to believe.
1. Power wire is 18 gauge.
2. 4 grounds are shared on two 18 gauge wires

How are you getting gain out of nothing? What are they ****ing magic energy cells ?
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Old 04-14-2019, 12:05 PM   #233
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Your new Holley coils look identical to the AEM High Output IGBT Inductive “smart coils”. Short list of the aem features:

Massive Spark Energy, up to 103 mJ!
Incredibly long spark duration, up to 2.9mS!
Up to 40kV Output Voltage, without a CDI!
Weather and Shockproof design
Can be mounted directly to the Engine

Specifications:
Output (no load): 40kV minimum
Output (50pF load): 40kV +/- 10%
Output Energy: 103 mJ +/- 7%
Peak Secondary Current: 102 mA +/- 10%
Arc Duration: 2.9mS +/- 10%
Turns Ratio 71:1
Maximum Current: 19 Amps
Maximum Battery Voltage: 17 Volts
Base Dwell: 3.0 mS
Max Continuous Dwell: 9 mS but don't exceed 40% duty cycle
Max Intermittent Dwell: 80% duty cycle, 5 seconds maximum
Mating Connector: Packard/Delphi 12162825 Pull to Seat
Mating Contacts: Packard/Delphi 12124075 Pull to Seat
High Tension Wire Terminal: HEI spark plug top Style

I think your on the right track with these. I am interested to see how you wire them, from the specs it looks like they have the power to light any size turbo up lol. I’d like to use these with the stock ecu (dwell tables adjusted for them etc) the thin gauge stock wiring sounds like a problem though.

aem doesn't make ****, they put heir ****ty logo on everything and make it worse
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Old 04-14-2019, 01:15 PM   #234
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aem doesn't make ****, they put heir ****ty logo on everything and make it worse
Lol, yeah exactly. I didn’t mean to imply aem actually made them, they are rebranded no doubt about it. I thought the added info aem offered up like dwell was good to know for those following along and don’t have the Holley spec sheet to look at. Holley doesn’t give much info on their website about these.

Keep us updated on your progress, back in the day I had blacks blow out on me (40r and hta3586) and had to add the kenne bell boost-a-spark (which worked surprisingly). But sold everything during my 2014 part out. Now it’s rebuild time and you have my attention with these bro. Keep up the good work and don’t forget to keep the updates flowing
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Old 04-14-2019, 01:36 PM   #235
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i find that very hard to believe.
1. Power wire is 18 gauge.
2. 4 grounds are shared on two 18 gauge wires

How are you getting gain out of nothing? What are they ****ing magic energy cells ?
I rewired all my engine bay with mil spec stuff...
The coils get 2.5 mm wired directly from battery thrugh relay.
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Old 04-16-2019, 12:08 PM   #236
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All wired up and running, total cost of ignition upgrade was about $450



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Old 04-16-2019, 12:12 PM   #237
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Which ignition cables are you using?
P.s it look greate
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Old 04-16-2019, 01:24 PM   #238
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Which ignition cables are you using?
P.s it look greate
All MSD stuff, 8.5mm super conductor wire
Wiring is 16GA, pins wont take any bigger !

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Old 04-19-2019, 11:19 AM   #239
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How’s it working?

Looks good. This is legit.
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Old 04-19-2019, 09:55 PM   #240
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How’s it working?

Looks good. This is legit.
So far so good, dropped dwell to @ 14V

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3.100,3.100,3.000,3.000,2.800,2.800,2.700,2.600,2.500,2.500,2.400,2.300,2.300,2.200,2.100,2.100,2.000
Not pushing any boost yet still working on VE table.
I dont think there will be issues with misfires, upgraded ignition is cheaper than wasted time on dyno.
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Old 04-20-2019, 05:11 PM   #241
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So true about the wasted dyno time. Really even any wasted time in general.

What set of msd superconductor wires did you use? Was it a universal set that you can cut down to size? The msd superconductor wires I seen available at my local shop look too short.
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Old 04-20-2019, 09:54 PM   #242
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So true about the wasted dyno time. Really even any wasted time in general.

What set of msd superconductor wires did you use? Was it a universal set that you can cut down to size? The msd superconductor wires I seen available at my local shop look too short.
I bought 6 foot of cable and and ends with boots, 6 feet wasn't enough needed about 7
Yeah it's awesome that local stores have all the ****
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Old 04-24-2019, 06:48 AM   #243
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There are any changes on afr after the coils install?
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Old 04-29-2019, 12:28 AM   #244
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There are any changes on afr after the coils install?
couldn't really see any changes at idle or light load. Might see better burn at 28-35 psi
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Old 05-16-2019, 01:31 PM   #245
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For any one that is running Fuelab prodigy pump using PWM here is a good info i found.
When you set the pump to lowest speed 20% @ 1500hz it fails to start 80% of the time, just making very high pitch sounds like its stuck between 2 magnet poles.
My dirty fix was run it at 35% duty.

After looking at way fuelab designed their electronic FPR i came to conclusion that we need to spin the pump at higher speed in beginning for it to not get stuck, what a **** product right ? (btw i had sent pump for service already it was not building pressure at all)
Here is the PWM map to where it starts at higher speed then slows down as rpm increase.

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Old 07-11-2019, 12:18 PM   #246
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Any update?
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Old 07-11-2019, 12:46 PM   #247
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Yeah what happened to the updates?
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Old 07-16-2019, 03:03 AM   #248
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Currently waiting for thermostat, doing relocation on upper coolant hose.

Added passive fuel cooler under the car 36 inches long.
Added TIC idlers to 0 out cams
Adding air pump from toyota to iag aos controlled by stock fuel pump controller to get crank pressure to 0 (might burn both lol)

Replaced omni 4bar map with T1 5bar threaded right into throttle body, no orings no bs.
Installed iag motor and tran mounts, in process of doing tran mount my kartboy bushings were gone! 2 of them were torn in halfs other 2 were completely gone (installed my oem ones back in
Will add pics soon
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Old 07-16-2019, 04:18 AM   #249
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where are you monitoring your fuel temps? I've been toying with the idea of installing fuel cooler as well

also, what is the purpose of zeroing crank pressure?
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Old 07-16-2019, 11:04 AM   #250
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where are you monitoring your fuel temps? I've been toying with the idea of installing fuel cooler as well

also, what is the purpose of zeroing crank pressure?
With massive fuel system temps were getting a bit high 65-80c hoping cooler will stabilize it



As far as crank pressure hoping to reduce blowby, plan is to run pump all the time at 30% speed and spin it up witj engine rpm
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