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Old 06-14-2021, 05:39 PM   #3451
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A modded Model S Plaid already at the track :

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This Pikes Peak will be crazy. Hopefully Randy doesn't have any trouble this time.

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Pobst loves plowing cars into the side of Pikes Peak. Not sure why, but I've never really had much admiration or respect for the guy. Dude is quick to rag on other drivers for losing control or clipping a bumper but when he plows into the mountain, or off of it, he is quick with an excuse.
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Old 06-14-2021, 08:48 PM   #3453
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Pobst loves plowing cars into the side of Pikes Peak. Not sure why, but I've never really had much admiration or respect for the guy. Dude is quick to rag on other drivers for losing control or clipping a bumper but when he plows into the mountain, or off of it, he is quick with an excuse.
He's got charisma and driving chops without coming off too cocky (for the most part); I think his "peak driving" was in the 90's - essentially he is marketable to the public; note: he is in his 60's; not saying that's old, but it's also not young.
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Old 06-15-2021, 06:42 AM   #3454
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Lol, Randy asked the team to change to the round steering wheel after just a couple of laps.
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Old 06-15-2021, 12:32 PM   #3455
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Lol, Randy asked the team to change to the round steering wheel after just a couple of laps.
Because that steering wheel is a ****ing stupid design.
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Old 06-15-2021, 12:44 PM   #3456
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Because that steering wheel is a ****ing stupid design.
Isn't it basically the same idea as F1? Just fewer buttons lol. Hopefully the steering rack is dynamic depending on speed, etc.
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Old 06-15-2021, 01:01 PM   #3457
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Isn't it basically the same idea as F1? Just fewer buttons lol. Hopefully the steering rack is dynamic depending on speed, etc.
Nope, according to a few different sources including MP racing it's the same ratio as the old Model S
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I watched a driving video of the Model S plaid with that stupid f***ing yoke; who thought that was a good idea? the steering ratio isn't tight enough for a yoke to work.
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I believe its 900% ratio.

Compared to an F1's 160%-210% ratio.
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Isn't it basically the same idea as F1? Just fewer buttons lol. Hopefully the steering rack is dynamic depending on speed, etc.
Are you expecting a producing vehicle to have the same steering response and ratio as an F1 car? Hell, Iíve never had a track car and nor have I seen dedicated or casual track cars use a wheel like that. Itís a really stupid design idea for anything other than an F1 car.
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Are you expecting a producing vehicle to have the same steering response and ratio as an F1 car? Hell, I've never had a track car and nor have I seen dedicated or casual track cars use a wheel like that. It's a really stupid design idea for anything other than an F1 car.
Yes. Exactly the same. JK.

I'll be waiting patiently for software updates, or drivers adjusting to it.
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Itís a really stupid design idea for anything other than an F1 car.
It's great for a SDC.. but Tesla is still 10 years away from that, so yeah, I agree.
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Lol, Randy asked the team to change to the round steering wheel after just a couple of laps.
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hmmm...

that's not the original tweet.

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Old 06-15-2021, 05:00 PM   #3466
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BTW,
The Driver who ran the 9:23 in the Plaid says he has done between 400-500 low to mid 9 second runs in the development of the car, it didn't break once. No failures of any kind.
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Old 06-15-2021, 05:01 PM   #3467
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hmmm...

that's not the original tweet.

https://twitter.com/mt_loverman/stat...89359942242304
Ask him... that post is on his Instagram from 24 minutes ago.
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Old 06-15-2021, 05:05 PM   #3468
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ah, instagram...not twitter

I am talking to him and Chris. We are in a small closed discussion group together. Hopefully Randy will stop by and give his input.
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Clearly the airbag hole is the problem that needed fixing.
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ah, instagram...not twitter

I am talking to him and Chris. We are in a small closed discussion group together. Hopefully Randy will stop by and give his input.
Sounds good. Tell him to stop being bipolar .

The Toyota bZ4X concept also has a yoke style wheel:

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. Toyota's explanation as to why it also changed the steering wheel for a yoke with the steer-by-wire is simple: with the system, that no longer has a physical connection between the helm and the wheels, the driver will need to apply a lot less lock to make the car to turn, thus eliminating the need to take their hands off the steering wheel when negotiating tighter turns.

The automaker announces that this is the first time this has happened in a mass produced vehicle, while also adding that with the yoke, the fun-to-drive factor of the bZ4X is enhanced. Not much else was said about the system, but it's one more reason to look forward to this model (co-developed with Subaru) hitting production in order to experience the yoke and steer-by-wire combo first hand.
Maybe when some kind of track mode comes out you can adjust the ratio. For FSD it makes sense when it retracts and the yoke doesn't obstruct they view IMO. It was approved by NTHTSA I assume.

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Are you expecting a producing vehicle to have the same steering response and ratio as an F1 car?
Expecting? No. Hoping for? Absolutely

I agree it's dumb unless the ratio is extremely low, but I was hoping the tesla had it based on the design. Sad to see it wasn't the case. Memelon Musk has done crazier things than make a car with F1 steering ratios.
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2-speed transmissions

https://twitter.com/EmmetPeppers/status/1405351318563155968

Terrible 60'.... which the forte of the electric car is traction off the line. Weird. Too much power

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.2022 Tesla Model S Plaid First Test: 0Ė60 MPH in 1.98 Seconds*!
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https://www.motortrend.com/cars/tesl...t-test-review/

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. Once ready and in its cheetah stance, the Model S Plaid's launch is drama-free, even without the added advantage of VHT. The electric car accelerates from 0 to 60 mph in just 2.07 seconds, more than 0.2 second quicker than our previous record holder. And if we could have kept going, our data says it's capable of running through the quarter mile in 9.34 seconds at 152.2 mph.

The gap between the Model S' times on prepped and unprepped surfaces is astonishingly close, as just 0.09 second separates them to 60 mph.

Amusingly, the Plaid launches so ferociously hard, it generates more than 1.00 g from 0.2 second to 2.6 seconds after launch, peaking at 1.227 g at 32 mph. That's more g than the car generated in its best 60-0-mph stop, which required 104 feet and peaked at 1.221 g.

So, yes, this all makes the 2022 Tesla Model S Plaid the quickest production car we've ever testedóan immense accomplishment.
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Although the 2022 Tesla Model S Plaid didn't deliver a sub-2.0-second 0-60 time on typical asphaltóat least not yetóit's no less of a striking achievement for the California-based automaker: The quickest car we've ever tested is a $150K five-seat sedan, not some multimillion-dollar, carbon-fiber-encrusted road missile. It's remarkably well rounded, exhibiting a combination of comfort, luxury, performance, and efficiency that remained a sci-fi fantasy in 2013 when we named the Model S the MotorTrend Car of the Year. Regardless of how much you care about acceleration numbers and how they're achieved, perhaps the most important takeaway is that the Model S Plaid is absolutely among the best cars on the market today.
15k cheaper then the Taycan Turbo S and that's with FSD included...25k without FSD. The Taycan qualifies for the $7500 rebate.
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15k cheaper then the Taycan Turbo S and that's with FSD included...25k without FSD. The Taycan qualifies for the $7500 rebate.
Thereís more to a vehicle than just 0-60 and 1/4 mile times, Vin Diesel.
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There's more to a vehicle than just 0-60 and 1/4 mile times, Vin Diesel.
track times will come grasshopper patience and after that people will move to the next thing they find convenient to critic.

This is some good info too in the article:

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. Cheater surface or not, the time is staggeringly impressive. Even more impressive and true to Tesla's word, the Plaid is capable of posting those times consistently, never varying by more than a fraction of a second or so each time we rocketed down the strip. We've never tested a car so robotic in its consistency.
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. On the highway and around town, the 2022 Tesla Model S Plaid is comfortable, quiet, and a delightful place to pass the miles. Thanks to its air suspension and adaptive dampers, the ride is supple and well controlled over all but the most brutal of impacts.
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