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Old 09-23-2021, 02:17 PM   #226
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I don't see many here at all. Most owners have garaged them in hopes they will double in value in 20 years. This has to be the most garaged <$100k car in the history of automobiles.
They're just protecting the fragile paint. My 2020 Si looks like it's been sandblasted after 22k miles.
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Old 09-23-2021, 03:45 PM   #227
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I don't see many here at all. Most owners have garaged them in hopes they will double in value in 20 years. This has to be the most garaged <$100k car in the history of automobiles.
It's all nostalgia now. We who grew up in the 90s and 2000s with these are now becoming the age where we begin sitting in a parking lot on a "cruise night" with other like minded and aged individuals talking about yester year. Your local burger joint parking lot will soon be filled with Hondas and Nissans instead of 50s and 60s Chevys.

I for some odd reason feel the need to now own a B series powered car so I can once again here the sound of VTEC kicking in. Low and behold so does a lot of other people as Integras and Civics are shooting up in value and B series motors are starting to break $5,000.

So I think people are garaging these because this is going to be the car they bring to the parking lot and chat about yesteryear in. "When I was a kid, VTEC really kicked in".
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Old 09-23-2021, 10:00 PM   #228
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I have a 10G. I like the styling more than the 11G. It's not terrible or anything and am considering one.

I'm not a fan of the interior dash. I really like the rear of the car.
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Old 09-24-2021, 04:18 PM   #229
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It's all nostalgia now. We who grew up in the 90s and 2000s with these are now becoming the age where we begin sitting in a parking lot on a "cruise night" with other like minded and aged individuals talking about yester year. Your local burger joint parking lot will soon be filled with Hondas and Nissans instead of 50s and 60s Chevys.

I for some odd reason feel the need to now own a B series powered car so I can once again here the sound of VTEC kicking in. Low and behold so does a lot of other people as Integras and Civics are shooting up in value and B series motors are starting to break $5,000.

So I think people are garaging these because this is going to be the car they bring to the parking lot and chat about yesteryear in. "When I was a kid, VTEC really kicked in".
I think I posted about this recently: but while it was amazing growing up and being late HS/college age when the whole import tuner scene exploded, one thing that kind of heartbreaking is how few cars survived that time period unscathed... and I don't even mean like the good stuff like ITRs and such. Like I was recently thinking I might like a good clean 6th gen Civic coupe, and then I realized like there practically aren't any clean ones anymore. I mean lot of sport compacts and coupes from the nineties are becoming a rare sight in any form. Leaving out mileage which you would expect to be high, even like Civic DX's and stuff all very shortly found their way into the hands of some kid who threw a bomex kit and fartcan on it. I can't count how often if I do see one of those 6th gen coupes it's all banged up, or with a brand new sparkly stock muffler but like bare frame rails with holes where the sideskirts used to be mounted, etc.

I recently saw a really clean 5th gen Celica in a parking lot and I took a picture of it, not because it's some amazing car that I have an affinity for; because I straight up practically never see them at all anymore let alone in good condition.
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Old 09-25-2021, 11:48 PM   #230
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I think I posted about this recently: but while it was amazing growing up and being late HS/college age when the whole import tuner scene exploded, one thing that kind of heartbreaking is how few cars survived that time period unscathed... and I don't even mean like the good stuff like ITRs and such. Like I was recently thinking I might like a good clean 6th gen Civic coupe, and then I realized like there practically aren't any clean ones anymore. I mean lot of sport compacts and coupes from the nineties are becoming a rare sight in any form. Leaving out mileage which you would expect to be high, even like Civic DX's and stuff all very shortly found their way into the hands of some kid who threw a bomex kit and fartcan on it. I can't count how often if I do see one of those 6th gen coupes it's all banged up, or with a brand new sparkly stock muffler but like bare frame rails with holes where the sideskirts used to be mounted, etc.

I recently saw a really clean 5th gen Celica in a parking lot and I took a picture of it, not because it's some amazing car that I have an affinity for; because I straight up practically never see them at all anymore let alone in good condition.
Agreed. I'm not sure if it is because of the buying spree / used car market antics happening right now, but it is crazy that there are less than 10 Integras, Civic Sis, or 240SXs for sale in the whole country.

I was even looking for an old 96 Civic Hatch to get nostalgic about, but the only one I could find for sale in the US was $11,000. Most 240s are chopped up drift cars, and everything else is just beat down. Maybe that is why prices are through the roof for clean examples of a car (like an Integra GS-R Coupe) that I could have bought for $3000 3 years ago.

Funny you mention the Bomex kit. I was actually looking for old Buddy Club bumpers for a Civic and they are gone.

I recently read this article and a lot of people seemed down on the guy, but I get it. It's what was cool back then, and that's what makes it nostalgic.

https://www.motortrend.com/news/acur...-import-tuner/
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Old 09-26-2021, 09:56 AM   #231
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Agreed. I'm not sure if it is because of the buying spree / used car market antics happening right now, but it is crazy that there are less than 10 Integras, Civic Sis, or 240SXs for sale in the whole country.

I was even looking for an old 96 Civic Hatch to get nostalgic about, but the only one I could find for sale in the US was $11,000. Most 240s are chopped up drift cars, and everything else is just beat down. Maybe that is why prices are through the roof for clean examples of a car (like an Integra GS-R Coupe) that I could have bought for $3000 3 years ago.

Funny you mention the Bomex kit. I was actually looking for old Buddy Club bumpers for a Civic and they are gone.

I recently read this article and a lot of people seemed down on the guy, but I get it. It's what was cool back then, and that's what makes it nostalgic.

https://www.motortrend.com/news/acur...-import-tuner/
I often search for 240sx and 90s model civic Si hatch (es). I've come to realize its near impossible to find one mint. Your better of importing and driving right hand drive. At least the s13 was produced significantly longer in JP vs America.
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Old 09-26-2021, 12:06 PM   #232
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I often search for 240sx and 90s model civic Si hatch (es). I've come to realize its near impossible to find one mint. Your better of importing and driving right hand drive. At least the s13 was produced significantly longer in JP vs America.
That's what I keep thinking. Than I start adding up the costs and think, "Hmm, maybe I should just get a new Z for fun and throw JDM parts on it to feel like I'm in the import scene again".

I already started down this path with an SC300 and the obsession of finding new old stock parts, having custom pieces made, only getting authentic parts (like Vertex widebody), and then the "Oh, that's not that much money" when building the engine that I said about 20 times already and I realize I could have gotten a new M3 or a new Z with a genuine whatever Liberty Walk makes for it right out the door. But then I think, "Yea, 90's Japanese Sututututututu" and buy something else for the car (like a whole Figs suspension).

I guess this is what every one sitting in the parking lot of a cruise night or cars and coffee think when spending $100 grand on their 50s or 60s Chevy. Nostalgia is a expensive, but the memories are worth it.
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Old 09-26-2021, 07:46 PM   #233
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That's what I keep thinking. Than I start adding up the costs and think, "Hmm, maybe I should just get a new Z for fun and throw JDM parts on it to feel like I'm in the import scene again".

I already started down this path with an SC300 and the obsession of finding new old stock parts, having custom pieces made, only getting authentic parts (like Vertex widebody), and then the "Oh, that's not that much money" when building the engine that I said about 20 times already and I realize I could have gotten a new M3 or a new Z with a genuine whatever Liberty Walk makes for it right out the door. But then I think, "Yea, 90's Japanese Sututututututu" and buy something else for the car (like a whole Figs suspension).

I guess this is what every one sitting in the parking lot of a cruise night or cars and coffee think when spending $100 grand on their 50s or 60s Chevy. Nostalgia is a expensive, but the memories are worth it.

if you find one mint snatch it up. craigslist best option maybe try slavage.

There is a 96 civic hatch in spoken Washington (listed on Ebay) for 1500. Its an auto, but with Honda's plug and play architecture that is an engine swap away from simplicity. Than again.

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Old 10-12-2021, 10:17 AM   #235
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Old 10-12-2021, 11:49 AM   #236
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For a winter beater/secondary car, a more stripped out version of the hatch with 1.5T and 6 speed would have been pretty compelling. That said, definitely awesome they offer the manual in the loaded 1.5T. Pretty solid package for $30k. Well, assuming no markup. What a dystopian nightmare we're in.

I'm definitely going to try and get a test drive in one of these. Will really set myself up for heartbreak when the Type R comes as it will be wholly and indefinitely unobtainable.
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Old 10-12-2021, 02:39 PM   #237
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For a winter beater/secondary car, a more stripped out version of the hatch with 1.5T and 6 speed would have been pretty compelling. That said, definitely awesome they offer the manual in the loaded 1.5T. Pretty solid package for $30k. Well, assuming no markup. What a dystopian nightmare we're in.

I'm definitely going to try and get a test drive in one of these. Will really set myself up for heartbreak when the Type R comes as it will be wholly and indefinitely unobtainable.
Seems clear now they omitted the 1.5T 6mT hatch cause the base Integra will offer that. But for a lot more money I'm sure.
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Playing with the configurator on Honda's website, the Sport Touring Hatch 1.5T with 6MT is only offered in 3 colors (black, white, light gray) but the CVT option has 8 colors. The Sport Hatch trim with the n/a 2.0 and 6MT has 6 colors. Not sure why such a color discrepancy.
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Playing with the configurator on Honda's website, the Sport Touring Hatch 1.5T with 6MT is only offered in 3 colors (black, white, light gray) but the CVT option has 8 colors. The Sport Hatch trim with the n/a 2.0 and 6MT has 6 colors. Not sure why such a color discrepancy.
Yeah the guy mentioned in the one video and it seemed like a pretty big ..can get all the colors on the Sport 6MT. wtf

But I didn't know the hatch was on the site at all! I didn't like, scroll down enough and see it. Thanks
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Looks like the Si is not going full fake vents! Curious what/if they are doing anything different or just carryover the power train. I want this in a hatch body too!
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Old 10-18-2021, 11:57 AM   #243
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That Si looks very clean. I bet it has an Audi S3 vibe.
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Maybe the Si will come with the CVT option
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Me, double post?? Nah..

Be sure to catch the hatch market discussion at 5:00 if you're a geriatric car company executive in Camden, NJ.

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Why do I get the feeling that many sport touring manuals will get marked up to STI prices?
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It would compete better with the top-trim wrx.
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False. If I've learned one thing on NASIOC it's this -- no car lacking AWD (no matter how good) can compete with any car (no matter how poorly engineered or constructed) with AWD.
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