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10-30-2012, 09:13 PM | #2276 |
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Guess it's time for another update. Roughly 9500 miles on my '12 with the CVT, average MPG is just under 28. Short drive to work is partly to blame, only 8 miles one way. Been putting a decent amount of highway miles on the car this summer/fall, but that will slow down soon with winter approaching (I tend to not take long trips in the winter, but that may change with the AWD, lolol...). Guessing that my MPG will take a hit. But no complaints, especially considering the AWD.
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10-31-2012, 09:56 PM | #2277 | |
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Distance travelled to date - 1200.2 km (approx 746 miles) 40.564 litres (10.72 US gallons) for 396.2 km (246 miles), 10.238 l/100km (22.97 MPG). Meter reading was 9.6 l/100km (24.5 MPG) Average over three fuel-ups: 124.167 litres (32.8 US gallons) for 1200.2 km travelled (746 miles) = 10.346 l/100km (22.74 MPG) Again, about 95+% in craptastic city traffic. On the bright side, almost done with the break-in period. |
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11-01-2012, 07:31 AM | #2278 | |
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I now have about 11000 miles. Even driving around in Sandy's wind and rain this weekend I got about 30 mpg (you do the conversion, l/100km hurts my brain). |
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11-01-2012, 08:21 AM | #2279 |
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MPG's will probably go down over the winter, not up, even after you get to 1,000 miles on the odometer.
The real test will be in the spring when the fuel blends change. But for City driving exclusively expect between 20-25mpg and probably not much better. |
11-02-2012, 09:16 AM | #2280 |
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Glad I didn't buy that 2013 Hyundai Elantra GT because of the gas mileage!!
https://hyundaimpginfo.com/overview/affected-models |
11-02-2012, 10:06 AM | #2281 | |
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As for getting to 1000 miles... I can't wait to be done with this "break-in driving". |
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11-02-2012, 10:36 AM | #2282 | |
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11-02-2012, 01:33 PM | #2283 |
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I wonder what theyre giving back, or how much.
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11-02-2012, 03:06 PM | #2284 |
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Interesting posts over on Edmunds InsideLine and their long term test blogs. They had two seperate editors drive over to SEMA in Vegas. The Mazda 3 (skyactive) with a 39mpg rating only got 31.7mpg while the Impreza Sport with CVT returned 32+. Both were driven over 80mph on I-15. So for argument sake they returned the same mpg, but the Mazada is rated a fair bit higher.
I guess nobody hits the marks all the time. http://blogs.insideline.com/roadtests/ |
11-02-2012, 03:33 PM | #2285 |
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http://www.news1130.com/news/world/a...cles-in-canada
Supposedly the difference in fuel consumption + a 15% premium (at least in Canada), not sure how it's going to work in the States. |
11-02-2012, 10:55 PM | #2286 | |
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I understand that Hyundai is give credit back for the LIFE of the car! That can be thousand of dollars. In some models Hyundai if off by as much as 10%. |
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11-03-2012, 06:33 AM | #2287 |
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You're assuming that Subaru reported numbers to the EPA that weren't in sync with their test data, and that this explains why you're disappointed with your Impreza's MPGs.
I'm going to guess that Subaru conducted the EPA tests correctly, and then reported the numbers correctly. So I'm not expecting Subaru to be sending me cash anytime soon. |
11-03-2012, 12:55 PM | #2288 | |
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Compared to the average of the other 4, the Impreza's ratings of 27/36 were *inflated* by over 25% city, and over 15% highway." That means the Impreza is 5 mpg worse than the average of the others, *including* a Kia. We can do something about it here: http://www.consumerwatchdog.org/node/add/complaint and http://www.epa.gov/otaq/oms-cmt.htm |
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11-03-2012, 01:33 PM | #2289 | |
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EPA test information is here: link. Comparing the results of these two different tests and claiming some kind of conspiracy on the part of Subaru and/or the EPA is, IMO, ridiculous. The EPA number is not some kind of magical guarantee that says you're going to get that mileage doing 80 mph on the freeway or doing short stop-n-go trips in your hellish city traffic. Now, if someone were to replicate the EPA tests exactly and find significant differences then we'd have grounds for the complaining that is so rampant in this thread. |
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11-03-2012, 03:21 PM | #2290 |
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You're not following. I wasn't comparing the EPA test to the CU test. I was using the CU test a a baseline and comparing EPA numbers to each other using that baseline.
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11-03-2012, 03:58 PM | #2291 | |
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So your thinking is that cars that score the same in one test should score the same in the other? Please correct me if I'm still not understanding. I'm not sure that assumption holds all the time. Indeed, in the link to Consumer Reports from my last post there is a table comparing the EPA and CR mpg ratings of some cars. Seven of them were rated 40mpg in the EPA but they got scores from CR ranging 39 - 51mpg. However, it does look like (at least in that small sample from the link) that the EPA combined mileage is usually pessimistic compared to the CR combined. If the Impreza's EPA combined is optimistic compared to the CR test then that would be evidence to something unusual going on. Maybe you've got something there! Although I think I would have to look at more data in both directions before being convinced that the Impreza is an outlier. (Sadly, my CR subscription is expired...) My opinion is still that Subaru did not game the EPA tests, or at least not by much, since I'm able to exceed the EPA estimates in my 5MT Impreza without any trouble. |
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11-03-2012, 04:54 PM | #2292 |
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Don't argue with stevehnm, it isn't worth the time you put into it.
On the other hand, if you agree with him, he is over in the Warranty thread trying to get Subaru Impreza owners to petition the EPA for some sort of compensation due to what he has concluded are the misleading EPA MPG figures for this car. What a joke. He drove an average speed of 70+mph and could not achieve the EPA highway numbers? No kidding. |
11-03-2012, 05:01 PM | #2293 |
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BigFatHorse, the Consumer Reports link you provided does bring up a good point that I briefly wondered about when test driving the cars. The Sport, with it's wider and lower profile tires, gets the same mpg as the base version. It drives with significantly more control as well, and the salesman said the only difference is the tires. I wonder how many people getting low mpg's have the Sport edition?
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11-03-2012, 05:04 PM | #2294 |
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11-03-2012, 06:06 PM | #2295 |
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I had the same experience with my old '93 Civic. I would have had to floor it 100% of the time to get below 35mpg, I think. I regularly got ~45mpg out of it despite the EPA estimate of something like 33mpg or 35mpg.
I think your Corolla and my old Civic had much "wider" mpg curves. That is, the mpgs dropped off comparatively slowly above and below the car's "sweet spot." I think the Impreza's mpg curve is less forgiving. It's a bigger and heavier car with a larger engine (at least compared to my old Civic). Not to mention AWD... It can get decent mileage in some circumstances, but not as easily or as often as an old 1.5L 1000 lb. Civic. If you are actually trying to petition Subaru to get money for gas you must be pretty unhappy with your car. Might I suggest an alternative? Sell it. Imprezas are in high demand right now. You'll lose some money on depreciation but it will probably be worth the money to get rid of the stress of a car that you are unhappy with. |
11-03-2012, 06:39 PM | #2296 | |
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i've tried arguing with him on this matter and but it is like talking to a wall. it is basic physics and some people really just don't understand physics. |
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11-03-2012, 08:54 PM | #2297 | |
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I don't think I'm the one who doesn't understand the physics here. Stevehnm, (p.e.) |
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11-03-2012, 09:00 PM | #2298 |
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Averaged 21.4 on the last tank. :-/
600 miles on the car, MT, all stop and go traffic. Still disappointed in this and hoping it gets better as the car is more broken in. I was getting 24-25 on the same route in my BRZ. |
11-03-2012, 09:04 PM | #2299 |
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Do you own both a BRZ and an Impreza, or did you trade in a BRZ in order to buy the Impreza?
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11-04-2012, 01:12 AM | #2300 | |
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