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Old 10-10-2018, 12:16 PM   #26
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Performance is defined in the Crossover body style,.
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Old 10-10-2018, 01:16 PM   #27
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Hard Pass.

43k base price
335hp 380tq @ 4,500lbs (13.43lb:1hp)
slush-box only
FWD biased AWD in a CUV
piss-poor fuel economy (19/26)

It needs another pedal, smaller MSRP, significantly less weight, less ride height, smaller wheels & a better AWD system.
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Old 10-10-2018, 01:54 PM   #28
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Performance is diminished in the Crossover body style,.
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Old 10-10-2018, 02:23 PM   #29
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It needs more poor reviews. Then the vehicle dynamics manager will get his wish, add torque vectoring, and we can give it drift mode.
Please start a go fund mel page!
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Old 10-10-2018, 04:48 PM   #30
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This thread appears to be full of folks that don't realize they're bitching about the weight and auto trans in a mid-size crossover. This thing is much bigger than a Forester... it's an Enclave / Pilot / Highlander competitor. Of course it weighs 4500lbs.. they all do. Y'all must be thinking of the Escape.


I rented a 2018 Edge Titanium with the 3.7L this past weekend. It was pretty nice. If I were looking at midsized CUVs I'd definitely consider it given the right discounts.
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Old 10-10-2018, 05:07 PM   #31
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To be fair folks would also bitch about an Ascent STI. The added monicker to the lineup is laughable for what it is, and more importantly, what it is not. Mom buy the ST me hauler pleeeease!
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Old 10-10-2018, 08:41 PM   #32
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If I were looking at midsized CUVs
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Old 10-10-2018, 11:13 PM   #33
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Well, there was a time when GM slapped some body panels and an SS badge on everything. I guess it's Ford's turn.

I do still see an occasional Malibu Maxx SS around town.
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Old 10-11-2018, 08:03 AM   #34
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This thread appears to be full of folks that don't realize they're bitching about the weight and auto trans in a mid-size crossover. This thing is much bigger than a Forester... it's an Enclave / Pilot / Highlander competitor. Of course it weighs 4500lbs.. they all do. Y'all must be thinking of the Escape.


I rented a 2018 Edge Titanium with the 3.7L this past weekend. It was pretty nice. If I were looking at midsized CUVs I'd definitely consider it given the right discounts.
I agree with Calamity. Itís a peppy small family hauler. One that can appease both mom and dad while being decently fun to drive for what it is.
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Old 10-11-2018, 09:55 AM   #35
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This is midsize crossover perfect replacement for a midsize sedan. Now are people that had a ford fusion sport gunna upgrade to an st, since ford not planning to sell cars anymore? Seems weird they got rid of 3.5v6 and only left the ecoboost motors. They have new 3.3lv6 used in the f150 that easily could have stuck in there for the 19+ models
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This is midsize crossover perfect replacement for a midsize sedan. Now are people that had a ford fusion sport gunna upgrade to an st, since ford not planning to sell cars anymore? Seems weird they got rid of 3.5v6 and only left the ecoboost motors. They have new 3.3lv6 used in the f150 that easily could have stuck in there for the 19+ models
The ecoboost motors likely do better with regards to CAFE & EPA standards than the 3.3l does, even though in real world situations the ecoboost motors are thirsty, because a turbo motor with a throttle map that is basically on/off connected to a torque converted auto with a lot of slop in it all in a heavy CUV kinda stacks the deck against real world fuel economy.

As far as converts from fusion sport to an "ST" CUV, no idea, they might just look at a camry/accord instead.
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Old 10-11-2018, 11:14 AM   #37
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James Bond drove an Edge at the end of Quantum of Solace to dump Mr. Green in the middle of the desert.

That's all I know about them.
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Old 10-11-2018, 11:20 AM   #38
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I dont know why you guys are so quick to let Ford off the hook. They called it an ST and show it in ads side by side with the other performance cars they have. They already have the 'sport' designation they give to the peppy family haulers, but they made the decision that it deserved more.
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If this were a thread about a Pilot Si or Pilot Type R, not one NASIOC member would have a negative word to say because the regular Pilot is nice and it makes sense to do that. lol
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The ecoboost motors likely do better with regards to CAFE & EPA standards than the 3.3l does, even though in real world situations the ecoboost motors are thirsty, because a turbo motor with a throttle map that is basically on/off connected to a torque converted auto with a lot of slop in it all in a heavy CUV kinda stacks the deck against real world fuel economy.

As far as converts from fusion sport to an "ST" CUV, no idea, they might just look at a camry/accord instead.
Iíd disagree with your comment on real world fuel consumption. Iíve done the math and with mixed driving and Iím not the lightest on the pedal, I get 18-19 in my 2.7 ecoboost. Driving from San Diego to Salt Lake City flint between 80-90, I averaged 23/24mpg.

If youíre heavy on the foot, sure. I can see mpg being crap.
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Ford's earlier Ecoboost engines seemed to consistantly fall short of EPA ratings in the real world. However, the 2.7 seems to be capable of meeting and exceeding ratings.
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Old 10-12-2018, 10:01 PM   #42
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Ford's earlier Ecoboost engines seemed to consistantly fall short of EPA ratings in the real world. However, the 2.7 seems to be capable of meeting and exceeding ratings.
My 2018 3.5TT has no problem averaging over 20mpg, and I love to use the power.
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My 2018 3.5TT has no problem averaging over 20mpg, and I love to use the power.
Still canít believe how quick that motor/truck is from a roll. I drove it back to back with the 2.7 and said F that 2.7!
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Ford Edge ST Chief Engineer Admits One Item Needs Improving


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Is it ready to tackle the Audi SQ5 and Porsche Macan?

During our recent test drive of the new 2019 Ford Edge ST, we concluded that Ford may have discovered a new market niche, a habit normally done by the likes of BMW and Audi. If thereís a niche to be filled, the Germans don't normally hesitate. One example: the BMW X6. But will the Ford Edge ST manage to attract enough customers to warrant its existence? Only time will tell, but whatís for certain is that Ford didnít just slap together an appearance package for its hot-selling mid-size crossover and call it a day. Thatís kind of what the Edge Sport is already doing.
Instead, the Edge ST was developed by Ford Performance in the same manner as the Fiesta ST and Focus ST.




Like both those soon-to-be-discontinued hot hatches, Ford Performance intends to continue improving the Edge ST even after it goes on sale. According to Motor Trend, who recently chatted with Ford Performance chief functional engineer Ed Krenz, one specific item still needs some tinkering.
ďThe single specific attribute that we'll continue to improve is the transmission software,Ē Krenz said. ďWe have a new eight-speed transmission, fundamentally very capable. Our target is DCT-like shift speeds. We're not quite there yet. We will see, we know how to do it, and we will get there over time with additional software.Ē
Surely improvements such as this will be needed because the Edge ST was benchmarked against the likes of the Audi SQ5 and the recently updated Porsche Macan.


Both of those premium performance crossover SUVs are segment leaders and are typically more expensive than the Ford, once numerous option packages are tacked on. A fully-loaded 2019 Edge ST comes to around $55,000, which isnít bad at all for 335 hp and 380 lb-ft of torque thanks to a 2.7-liter EcoBoost V6. All-wheel drive is standard. If Fordís own performance division chief engineer is of the opinion the gearbox can be improved, itíll be interesting to see what else can be further refined, be it engine or suspension tuning.
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