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Old 03-28-2008, 06:28 PM   #1
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Default Any 08 wagon owners out there with kids 0-24months of age?

My wife is looking to trade in her xB for a more family oriented vechicle, she is interested in an 08 wagon. Our main concern is safety and rear-facing car seats placed behind the front passenger seat. I always dread using my STi when I take the family out, its such a chore getting the kids(1 newborn and a 1 year old) in and out of the tightly compacted back seat. I'll say it now, we want to stay far away from mini vans.


Can any wagon owners out there please share their experiences? Thank you!
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Old 03-28-2008, 06:40 PM   #2
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Actually...have you ever been in a Forester? Those things are HUGE inside. Maybe give that a look as well while you're at it.
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Old 03-28-2008, 06:42 PM   #3
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Don't have a wagon, or kids, but the back seats are (relatively) huge on the 08s, and the back doors swing wide open. There three separate anchor points for child seats on the sedan, and same for the wagon IIRC.
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Old 03-28-2008, 07:02 PM   #4
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Reconsider your minivan position. Really. They cost about the same, seat 7, hold all the crap, run on regular gas and get nearly the same mileage as the Subaru. Safety-wise they are tanks. Subarus aren't bad from a safety perspective, either, but physics wins when you get hit by a ginormous vehicle.

We went from a CR-V to a minivan (Sienna AWD) for our "family car" and have nor regretted the move one bit. The CR-V had room enough for the rear-facing seat, but it got very cramped on trips and there was no room for the eventual carpool / dealing with my daughter's friends riding along, which will happen in a couple of years. Even the Forester can't do that. The only thing that can come close is the Mazda 5, which unfortunately doesn't come with AWD.

Going from a (sub)compact car to a compact car, you aren't going to pick up much room. Rear facing seats will still require the passenger seat be moved up. The ginormous sit and stand stroller will fill the rear of the car. Add in a diaper bag and that's about it. Your older kid will kick the rear of the driver's seat incessantly. Picking up grandma/grandpa at the airport is a pain in the ass because you need to take the seats out.

Oh, and the minivan makes trips to Home Despot considerably easier since it's so huge.

Sometimes you gotta do something "for the kids". If you really don't want to do the minivan thing, I'd really suggest taking a look at the Mazda 5, or going up to the Legacy. The Impreza is going to give you the same fit problems your STI does.
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Old 03-28-2008, 08:30 PM   #5
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Consider Legacy wagon. You will be surprised how HUGE the tunk and interior is as a wagon. No one suggests it...why not? The trunk space : (Taken from Cars101.com)


Legacy:


2008, 2007, 2006, 2005 Wagon, hand measurements
subject to change, correction

A: 39" wide lower gate opening
B: 43" wide mid-gate opening
C: 48" wide top of wheel wells
D: 42.25" wide between wheel wells
E: 33.50 " height opening at gate
F: 29-31" interior height depending on where you measure
G: 43" length with seat folded up
H: 73" length with seat folded flat


Forester:

2008, 2007, 2006 FORESTER CARGO MEASURMENTS
Hand measured by me.
A: 36" width at bottom of gate opening
B: 53.5" width at floor
C: 41.5" width at wheel well, see D
D: 37.5 width at cargo hooks in wheel well
E: 46.5" width at middle of gate opening
F: 53.25 maximum width at side rails at cargo cover (not shown)
G: 13" floor to top of wheel well or bottom of cargo cover (not shown)
H: 31.5" floor length to back of seat
I: 68" floor length to back of center console. Updated March 2008.
J: 32.25" height gate opening bottom to top
K: 34" height floor to ceiling center of floor, see L
L: 31" height floor to ceiling's low area where the rear shoulder harness retracts
98" floor length to heater controls
Beige interior shown.



The legacy might not be as tall, but the trunk is humoungous.

The forester is the spec of the 08 and not the 09.
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Old 03-28-2008, 11:01 PM   #6
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I got small 1 year old dog, does it count?
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Old 03-29-2008, 12:33 AM   #7
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Reconsider your minivan position.
If his oldest child is one, he's probably going to buy another vehicle before he has to worry about car pooling.
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Old 03-29-2008, 08:53 AM   #8
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Aside from safety features, I don't see why a Subaru would be a good family investment for California residents who aren't in harsh conditions most of the time.

A main reason I got mine was because I work all 3 shifts and the roads are never plowed and salted when I need them to be..

Aside from that, the 21mpg is less than desirable, but made a bit less annoying by the large gas tank...

My old Ford Probe GT got 31mpg out of the Mazda 2.5 V6, but it became impossible to get cheap parts for regular maintenance!
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Old 03-29-2008, 08:30 PM   #9
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I have an 08 hatch, I can't put the car seat behind the driver as I have to move the seat up too far (I have a newborn -2 weeks old). It would be fine for my wife but if your about 6 ft tall it won't work. The hatch is great though for a stroller.
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Old 03-30-2008, 09:24 PM   #10
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If his oldest child is one, he's probably going to buy another vehicle before he has to worry about car pooling.
Yeah, we buy our cars and drive them at least 10 years. So the earliest we would get a new car is 2012 to replace the WRX. The minivan is slated for a 2017 retirement date .

My wife went from
"I don't want a SUV, and never a minivan" to "I really loooove my CR-V" and "I'm proud to drive a MT" to "My automatic minivan is the best, I hate driving a manual now".

The Odyssey/Sienna are really nice vehicles. We got the Sienna because of the AWD.
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