It has begun: GC4 EJ22 to EZ30R swap.

Slack · 04-07-2005, 11:28 PM

Well, the engine was delivered this afternoon. Here are a few pics to wet your appetites:

Top shot (crappy, I know)

Engine model stamp:

Wiring harness connectors (all sensors are there and hooked up):

Passenger side head shot (motor mount and oil filter, too)

Driver side head:

Mick

96GreenLX · 04-08-2005, 12:01 AM

Nice, aren't you afraid of ripping your tranny apart though? Or are there plans there too? I could just imagine a 6spd with it and some turbos.

Slack · 04-08-2005, 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 96GreenLX

Nice, aren't you afraid of ripping your tranny apart though? Or are there plans there too? I could just imagine a 6spd with it and some turbos.

Not really. I am fairly easy on my transmission and don't drop the clutch like a lot of people do. I plan on using the stock tranny until it either breaks or I have the money for something better.

Mick

Slack · 04-08-2005, 12:59 AM

Oh n05!! ddddouble post!

Homemade WRX · 04-08-2005, 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 96GreenLX

Nice, aren't you afraid of ripping your tranny apart though?

I don't see how 219 lb-ft and 250 hp is going to rip it apart unless he is driving like an idiot...those are stock brake measurements...not wheel

Kreeger · 04-08-2005, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Homemade WRX

I don't see how 219 lb-ft and 250 hp is going to rip it apart unless he is driving like an idiot...those are stock brake measurements...not wheel

I agree.... I am making over 300whp and have been using my stock tranny the whole time (over 1 year). It's all about the driver.

Slack · 04-08-2005, 12:15 AM

In the next week (or two), I will be buying all the parts that I will need to finish the swap. We will most likely be using a stock ecu from an 05 H6 equipped vehicle. We will be trying to use the stock headers if: A) they fit and B) they aren't horribly expensive. We will be making a custom header-back exhaust with high flow cat(s) and resonators. We might even make it dual-exhaust with a x-over pipe.

More details will be posted as we make progress.

Mick

BREWPUBEAVER · 04-08-2005, 01:37 AM

cooler

kgb · 04-08-2005, 04:53 PM

I wonder if anyone would try to turbo this sucker... it's going to be a really tight fit like the other GC with EZ30. Interesting project though

PHATsuby · 04-09-2005, 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kgb

I wonder if anyone would try to turbo this sucker... it's going to be a really tight fit like the other GC with EZ30. Interesting project though

ask and you shall receive.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=748513

Also Slack, FYI I just talked to a parts guy, and he told me sourcing all those parts(Ecu, wiring harness and components) would not be cheap, you may have a hookup but he estimated over 3k. he said he had to check an 05 bulkhead harness for a customer recently and list was 1035.00 that he remembered

He also told me there is no getting around the Immobilizer system, you have to have ALL components for the ecu to run the engine, he knows i am doing a swap and this was a friendly convo so he wasnt just feeding me what subaru wants me to hear/think.

Ben

2.5rsTurbo · 08-08-2006, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kgb

I wonder if anyone would try to turbo this sucker... it's going to be a really tight fit like the other GC with EZ30. Interesting project though

yes, someone has turbo'd it...his name is jeff perrin, he has an h6 in an sti...search it on google, actually here is the link http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...01&q=perrin+h6

p.s. the only difference is its not in a gc8 chasis ;]

Marcin · 04-08-2005, 06:02 PM

Good Luck with the swap dude.

Slack · 04-08-2005, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcin

Good Luck with the swap dude.

Thanks, Marcin. I am thinking about coming up to visit the MWIC sometime later this year. Maybe I'll make it to a chi-town meet while I'm there.

Mick

Slack · 04-08-2005, 06:11 PM

I thought about putting a turbo on it, but it is a 10.7:1 compression engine and I wouldn't want to mess with it without changing out the pistons and lowering the compression first. This is a brand new engine, so I'm going to keep it stock for a while.

Mick

Jaxx · 04-08-2005, 06:44 PM

this is the dohc right?
will beinterstnig to see how pissed off the ecu is that its not sohc
i would at lest start with the oldest h-6 ecu i could find
the 05 ecu is a bad choice lots of wacky stuff intagrated into the ecu .. like the seat belts, secuirty system, hvac, radio etc

Slack · 04-08-2005, 09:41 PM

I don't see how a SOHC non-avcs/non-avls would be a good choice to run this engine.

Mick

Jaxx · 04-09-2005, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slack

I don't see how a SOHC non-avcs/non-avls would be a good choice to run this engine.

Mick

its not
but a sohc w/o avcs with wacky things like imobilizer isn't either

Scoobie Steve · 04-09-2005, 08:50 PM

I see no reason to even attempt a factory ecu, standalone will be much easier for this swap.

Homemade WRX · 04-09-2005, 01:55 AM

get the 05 ecu to run the engine...the rest of the crap should be able to be ignored like with my 02 wrx engine swap...and most of it is easy to wire up anyhow...and yes twrracing is twin turboing a eg33 engine right now

Slack · 04-09-2005, 03:47 AM

That is the plan. As long as it gets the engine running and I can eliminate any emissions CELs, then that's all I care about. I'll be running a couple of high-flow cats, so the spark plug anti-fouler trick should work.

Mick

Slack · 04-09-2005, 08:40 AM

This should be talked about in private.

Mick

PHATsuby · 04-09-2005, 03:10 PM

ok.

Ben

Slack · 04-09-2005, 09:15 PM

I have to be able to pass obd-II emissions tests. A stand-alone would make that next to impossible.

Mick

DoctorNick · 04-09-2005, 09:45 PM

I wonder how Nitrous would do on it

good luck dude.

Jaxx · 04-09-2005, 10:46 PM

passing obd-2 is not gonna happen with an 05 ecu way way to many emmissions devices
buy a differnt chassis -get a standalone

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04-07-2005, 11:28 PM	#1
Slack Scooby Specialist Member#: 17548 Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Atlanta, Ga	It has begun: GC4 EJ22 to EZ30R swap. Well, the engine was delivered this afternoon. Here are a few pics to wet your appetites: Top shot (crappy, I know) Engine model stamp: Wiring harness connectors (all sensors are there and hooked up): Passenger side head shot (motor mount and oil filter, too) Driver side head: Mick

04-09-2005, 08:40 AM	#21
Slack Scooby Specialist Member#: 17548 Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Atlanta, Ga	This should be talked about in private. Mick Last edited by Slack; 04-09-2005 at 09:16 AM.

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04-08-2005, 12:01 AM	#2
96GreenLX Scooby Newbie Member#: 60073 Join Date: Apr 2004 Vehicle: 1996 Impreza LX Green	Nice, aren't you afraid of ripping your tranny apart though? Or are there plans there too? I could just imagine a 6spd with it and some turbos.

04-08-2005, 12:59 AM	#4
Slack Scooby Specialist Member#: 17548 Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Atlanta, Ga	Oh n05!! ddddouble post!

04-08-2005, 12:15 AM	#7
Slack Scooby Specialist Member#: 17548 Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Atlanta, Ga	In the next week (or two), I will be buying all the parts that I will need to finish the swap. We will most likely be using a stock ecu from an 05 H6 equipped vehicle. We will be trying to use the stock headers if: A) they fit and B) they aren't horribly expensive. We will be making a custom header-back exhaust with high flow cat(s) and resonators. We might even make it dual-exhaust with a x-over pipe. More details will be posted as we make progress. Mick

04-08-2005, 01:37 AM	#8
BREWPUBEAVER Scooby Guru Member#: 84547 Join Date: Apr 2005 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: PDX S-SE Vehicle: 06, Lafawnduh Fender rolling king	cooler

04-08-2005, 04:53 PM	#9
kgb Scooby Specialist Member#: 1366 Join Date: Apr 2000 Chapter/Region: VIC Location: Delta, BC, Canada Vehicle: 2000 RS-T -> RSTi-8 Blue Ridge Pearl	I wonder if anyone would try to turbo this sucker... it's going to be a really tight fit like the other GC with EZ30. Interesting project though

04-08-2005, 06:02 PM	#12
Marcin Scooby Specialist Member#: 2874 Join Date: Nov 2000 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Wood Dale IL Vehicle: 2005 CGM WRX WGN Jorge Tunned BattleWagon	Good Luck with the swap dude.

04-08-2005, 06:11 PM	#14
Slack Scooby Specialist Member#: 17548 Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Atlanta, Ga	I thought about putting a turbo on it, but it is a 10.7:1 compression engine and I wouldn't want to mess with it without changing out the pistons and lowering the compression first. This is a brand new engine, so I'm going to keep it stock for a while. Mick

04-08-2005, 06:44 PM	#15
Jaxx Scooby Guru Member#: 177 Join Date: Aug 1999 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Austin, Texas, USA Vehicle: The 93 W/EJ20K-sold Subaru-less :(	this is the dohc right? will beinterstnig to see how pissed off the ecu is that its not sohc i would at lest start with the oldest h-6 ecu i could find the 05 ecu is a bad choice lots of wacky stuff intagrated into the ecu .. like the seat belts, secuirty system, hvac, radio etc

04-08-2005, 09:41 PM	#16
Slack Scooby Specialist Member#: 17548 Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Atlanta, Ga	I don't see how a SOHC non-avcs/non-avls would be a good choice to run this engine. Mick

04-09-2005, 08:50 PM	#18
Scoobie Steve Scooby Specialist Member#: 2289 Join Date: Sep 2000 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Bangor, PA Vehicle: 1998 [email protected] Subaru L Ver 6 STi Type R	I see no reason to even attempt a factory ecu, standalone will be much easier for this swap.

04-09-2005, 01:55 AM	#19
Homemade WRX Scooby Guru Member#: 33782 Join Date: Mar 2003 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Mooresville, NC Vehicle: 96 3MI Racing search FIRST, then PM!!!	get the 05 ecu to run the engine...the rest of the crap should be able to be ignored like with my 02 wrx engine swap...and most of it is easy to wire up anyhow...and yes twrracing is twin turboing a eg33 engine right now

04-09-2005, 03:47 AM	#20
Slack Scooby Specialist Member#: 17548 Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Atlanta, Ga	That is the plan. As long as it gets the engine running and I can eliminate any emissions CELs, then that's all I care about. I'll be running a couple of high-flow cats, so the spark plug anti-fouler trick should work. Mick

04-09-2005, 03:10 PM	#22
PHATsuby Scooby Guru Member#: 13617 Join Date: Dec 2001 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: MN Vehicle: 2001 Legacy GT back to stock is a project too	ok. Ben

04-09-2005, 09:15 PM	#23
Slack Scooby Specialist Member#: 17548 Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Atlanta, Ga	I have to be able to pass obd-II emissions tests. A stand-alone would make that next to impossible. Mick

04-09-2005, 09:45 PM	#24
DoctorNick Scooby Guru Member#: 7022 Join Date: May 2001 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Evanston Vehicle: 2001 Forester Arcadia green	I wonder how Nitrous would do on it good luck dude.

04-09-2005, 10:46 PM	#25
Jaxx Scooby Guru Member#: 177 Join Date: Aug 1999 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Austin, Texas, USA Vehicle: The 93 W/EJ20K-sold Subaru-less :(	passing obd-2 is not gonna happen with an 05 ecu way way to many emmissions devices buy a differnt chassis -get a standalone