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Old 02-16-2017, 08:26 PM   #1
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The rally-inspired WRX debuted in 2001 powered by a mighty 2.0-liter, turbo-charged, intercooled BOXER engine with 227 hp and 217 lb-ft. of torque, establishing the performance sport sedan segment in the U.S. market. The WRX was designed, tested and proven in its rally form in the world’s most brutal motorsport, the World Rally Championship. WRX stands for “World Rally eXperimental" and the car has lived up to its name with multiple titles in the WRC and U.S. rally competition. In 2004, Subaru introduced the WRX STI (Subaru Tecnica International) version of the WRX with a powerful 300 hp engine and signature trunk wing.
If they are rewriting history, I guess that means no hatch even in 2020.
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If they are rewriting history, I guess that means no hatch even in 2020.
It's important to note that the "hatch" wasn't what established the performance image... it was the sedan.

It still does.
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If they are rewriting history, I guess that means no hatch even in 2020.
The current wrx couldn't rally, it's not a hatch, and there is no ground clearance. They ought to call it World Sedan eXperimental. WSX. I'd literally sheet a brick if they came out of left field with a 3 door hatch, with ground clearance, and 350HP. Really meaning back to their rally roots instead of always referring to who they used to be, always showing yester-year videos. I'd be on an iv drip within hours.

Buy something else dude. I decided today, that's what I'm doing. Subaru was the car company, with hatches, where one car could do it all. That's gone, so I'm moving two a two vehicle setup, which opens up things quite a bit. Now new Supra, and S2000, and whatever else coming out gets attention. Be hopeful for 2020 but don't set yourself up for disappointment either. I got my dreams crushed in 2015. 2018 was expected. If you don't expect sheet for 2020, and they actually punch Tom Balls in his face, maybe you'll be surprised. If not you won't be disappointed. They freed up some production room with the Prez going to Indiana but methinks it's all about the 7 seater now. This is the new Booby, like it, love it, or leave it. I'm leaving it. 3 purchases in a row, none with them, and apparently me and my money aren't missed
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It's important to note that the "hatch" wasn't what established the performance image... it was the sedan.

It still does.
I'm pretty sure BMW and others had already established the performance sedan segment in the US long before 2001. Subaru might be able to take credit for establishing the "performance sedan derived from an existing small econobox sedan" segment in the US, but even that would be a stretch. The Mitsubishi Galant VR4 had already been here and done that in 1991 with the Eclipse/Talon turbo 4cyl AWD drivetrain in a small sedan body (even had 4 wheel steering).
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I'm pretty sure BMW and others had already established the performance sedan segment in the US long before 2001. Subaru might be able to take credit for establishing the "performance sedan derived from an existing small econobox sedan" segment in the US, but even that would be a stretch. The Mitsubishi Galant VR4 had already been here and done that in 1991 with the Eclipse/Talon turbo 4cyl AWD drivetrain in a small sedan body (even had 4 wheel steering).
I didn't specify Subaru. I said sedan. Those fine vehicles you mention were sedans, too.
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The current wrx couldn't rally, it's not a hatch, and there is no ground clearance. They ought to call it World Sedan eXperimental. WSX. I'd literally sheet a brick if they came out of left field with a 3 door hatch, with ground clearance, and 350HP. Really meaning back to their rally roots instead of always referring to who they used to be, always showing yester-year videos. I'd be on an iv drip within hours.

Buy something else dude. I decided today, that's what I'm doing. Subaru was the car company, with hatches, where one car could do it all. That's gone, so I'm moving two a two vehicle setup, which opens up things quite a bit. Now new Supra, and S2000, and whatever else coming out gets attention. Be hopeful for 2020 but don't set yourself up for disappointment either. I got my dreams crushed in 2015. 2018 was expected. If you don't expect sheet for 2020, and they actually punch Tom Balls in his face, maybe you'll be surprised. If not you won't be disappointed. They freed up some production room with the Prez going to Indiana but methinks it's all about the 7 seater now. This is the new Booby, like it, love it, or leave it. I'm leaving it. 3 purchases in a row, none with them, and apparently me and my money aren't missed
I was really surprised when I saw they actually still spelled out the WRX meaning in their statement after they've turned the car into more of a track queen now.

I've been waiting to replace my 2002 WRX wagon since ~2012 when the "new" at the time Impreza came out figuring the WRX would be right behind it. I could probably hold out to 2020 if I was reasonably confident a hatch was coming then, but I don't want to nurse my current WRX along on just a wish of hatch. If they are pushing the sedan crap even in their 50 year history, even the wish is probably a stretch.

The Golf R and Focus RS are getting more and more attractive as dealers are coming down from MSRP on them, but it is still more than I'd prefer to spend.

I'm strongly considering the Golf Sportwagen 4motion or Golf Alltrack. Both of those come with the 170HP 1.8T which can be upped to 210 with just a JB1 piggyback or 250 with just a reflash. My WRX is still stock, so that would be more than I've got now. It looks like I could get into one of those for ~25K at some dealers which makes it really hard to spend the extra 10-15K on the R or RS. That Sportwagen 4motion is right in the practical/inexpensive/decent power sweet spot that Subaru owners used to "love".

I don't have room where I am for a 2nd vehicle, so I really need a "one car does everything". I could probably do one of those folding harbor freight trailers with a less practical car, but it is so much nicer to just have the cargo capability with you at all times.
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I didn't specify Subaru. I said sedan. Those fine vehicles you mention were sedans, too.
But Subaru specified Subaru in the quote that started the discussion . I'm mostly disagreeing with Subaru only using that quote because, IMO, "performance cars are more defined in the sedan segment" has been the company line since the US 2015 WRX Sedan only release. IMHO, they would not have worded it like that if they had hit 50 years in 2014. In essence that means it wasn't what they believed for 47 years, but they will retroactively insert it into their history because that is what they have told us for only the last 3.

As a secondary point - the original quote is just incorrect. Subaru said the WRX established "the performance sport sedan segment in the U.S. market". It didn't say the WRX established Subaru as a player in the performance sedan category in the US or established Subaru's performance sedan image in the US. As those other fine cars illustrate - the performance sedan segment existed in the US long before the WRX came here. They'd be MUCH closer to being correct if they had limited it to the "AWD performance sport sedan segment" since the Galant VR4 didn't clearly didn't establish much of a segment even though it was brought to the US 10 years earlier. Just for you - I will concede that the WRX definitely did establish the US "CVT performance sport sedan segment" .

On a mostly unrelated front - the BRZ is mentioned twice in the company history part of the release, but it does not have a listing in the model section at all. I guess Tom didn't want to admit that real performance is actually defined in the RWD coupe segment. He must hate the BRZ almost as much as the hatch/wagon.
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He must hate the BRZ almost as much as the hatch/wagon.
...or the Forester XT. Or the Legacy GT sedan? Didn't he kill that car, and then tell us about this market and sport sedans a couple years later? Huh whuh?
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I was really surprised when I saw they actually still spelled out the WRX meaning in their statement after they've turned the car into more of a track queen now.

I've been waiting to replace my 2002 WRX wagon since ~2012 when the "new" at the time Impreza came out figuring the WRX would be right behind it. I could probably hold out to 2020 if I was reasonably confident a hatch was coming then, but I don't want to nurse my current WRX along on just a wish of hatch. If they are pushing the sedan crap even in their 50 year history, even the wish is probably a stretch.

The Golf R and Focus RS are getting more and more attractive as dealers are coming down from MSRP on them, but it is still more than I'd prefer to spend.

I'm strongly considering the Golf Sportwagen 4motion or Golf Alltrack. Both of those come with the 170HP 1.8T which can be upped to 210 with just a JB1 piggyback or 250 with just a reflash. My WRX is still stock, so that would be more than I've got now. It looks like I could get into one of those for ~25K at some dealers which makes it really hard to spend the extra 10-15K on the R or RS. That Sportwagen 4motion is right in the practical/inexpensive/decent power sweet spot that Subaru owners used to "love".

I don't have room where I am for a 2nd vehicle, so I really need a "one car does everything". I could probably do one of those folding harbor freight trailers with a less practical car, but it is so much nicer to just have the cargo capability with you at all times.
I don't have room for a 2nd 4 wheeler either. My 2 wheelers take up my 2nd bay or half of my garage. But by the time I'm buying my second cage I'll have made accommodations (carport + electronic gate) so I can be concerned about the security......of my sheet. Booby won't make us a hatch or wagon "in the performance segment" but what Balls doesn't understand is that if that's the route you wanna take, ok buddy, when I move to two vehicles, NONE of your vehicles make sense for my needs. You had my heart, "love", but now it's time for the finger. Maybe you'll come around some day but it might be a day late and a dollar short.

What's funny, the other cars you names R, RS, what body style are those? And are they uh selling? Did VW just also bring an Alltrak, and aren't they bringing a new GolfWagen (JSW) with AWD? Ah booby balls, you could have been cool, and Levorg'd us stateside, but nah. Do what you gotta do sweets, I see the forest for the trees, and you ain't been too hot in the engine department in recent years, needs work. Enjoy the "best sales EVAR" and "no 'ragrets' ". The chickens always come home to roost at some point.

I'd not bust their balls so much if they'd quit talking about WRC. Them days have been over for a long time. Your performance cars are wannabe track queens. They were supposed to be any weather or road surface. Good luck with that on these cars, you'll rip your bumper off kid. But the cool thing is, while you are "rallying" in your production line Subaru, you can rip off your bumper, and at the same time throw a rod or bust a ringland, so multiple ways of fun at the same time. Hey maybe the next eyesight will record it all for you so you can Boobaru on you-boob with the rest of the kids.

Product differentiation = Be bold and make something others are not. 3 or 5 door hatch, with ground clearance, fast as hell. Make a rally car for the dealer lots. If not, shut up about the rallying. Those days are dead except for x games and the wannabe course. Ballahs are competing today, not 10 years ago, in WRC. Toyota gets it, from their head ***** publicly stating in the press "no more boring cars" to a WRC win!
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Ok come on haters... the current body style does actually rally professionally, just not in the WRC. The wrx/sti has always required preparation to do any kind of serious rallying. I can do donuts in snow/dirt lots just as well with this 2017 wrx as I could with my 2002 or 1997 wrx. Those earlier cars weren't magically rally ready from the factory.

Also, while Subaru did not invent the sport sedan market, they did revitalize the sport compact car scene in 2002 with the wrx. That market was pretty much dead. You had the Sentra se-r or maybe the GTI as an alternative. 2 years after the wrx, you had the sti, evo, and srt4. Look at what we have now, still in a golden age for these kinds of cars.
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If they are rewriting history, I guess that means no hatch even in 2020.
alternative facts, my friend.

And btw misleading thread title is misleading
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...or the Forester XT. Or the Legacy GT sedan? Didn't he kill that car, and then tell us about this market and sport sedans a couple years later? Huh whuh?
Well....those are variants of a line. What about the Justy? I mean, com'on.
That dirt kick-up at the end is just "cool".

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I don't have room for a 2nd 4 wheeler either. My 2 wheelers take up my 2nd bay or half of my garage. But by the time I'm buying my second cage I'll have made accommodations (carport + electronic gate) so I can be concerned about the security......of my sheet. Booby won't make us a hatch or wagon "in the performance segment" but what Balls doesn't understand is that if that's the route you wanna take, ok buddy, when I move to two vehicles, NONE of your vehicles make sense for my needs. You had my heart, "love", but now it's time for the finger. Maybe you'll come around some day but it might be a day late and a dollar short.

What's funny, the other cars you names R, RS, what body style are those? And are they uh selling? Did VW just also bring an Alltrak, and aren't they bringing a new GolfWagen (JSW) with AWD? Ah booby balls, you could have been cool, and Levorg'd us stateside, but nah. Do what you gotta do sweets, I see the forest for the trees, and you ain't been too hot in the engine department in recent years, needs work. Enjoy the "best sales EVAR" and "no 'ragrets' ". The chickens always come home to roost at some point.

I'd not bust their balls so much if they'd quit talking about WRC. Them days have been over for a long time. Your performance cars are wannabe track queens. They were supposed to be any weather or road surface. Good luck with that on these cars, you'll rip your bumper off kid. But the cool thing is, while you are "rallying" in your production line Subaru, you can rip off your bumper, and at the same time throw a rod or bust a ringland, so multiple ways of fun at the same time. Hey maybe the next eyesight will record it all for you so you can Boobaru on you-boob with the rest of the kids.

Product differentiation = Be bold and make something others are not. 3 or 5 door hatch, with ground clearance, fast as hell. Make a rally car for the dealer lots. If not, shut up about the rallying. Those days are dead except for x games and the wannabe course. Ballahs are competing today, not 10 years ago, in WRC. Toyota gets it, from their head ***** publicly stating in the press "no more boring cars" to a WRC win!
http://blackflag.jalopnik.com/toyota...e-i-1792275540
I'm a bit excited. The talk about more STI in the states. New engines/platforms. 50th anniversay with them saying special editions.

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Ok come on haters... the current body style does actually rally professionally, just not in the WRC. The wrx/sti has always required preparation to do any kind of serious rallying. I can do donuts in snow/dirt lots just as well with this 2017 wrx as I could with my 2002 or 1997 wrx. Those earlier cars weren't magically rally ready from the factory.

Also, while Subaru did not invent the sport sedan market, they did revitalize the sport compact car scene in 2002 with the wrx. That market was pretty much dead. You had the Sentra se-r or maybe the GTI as an alternative. 2 years after the wrx, you had the sti, evo, and srt4. Look at what we have now, still in a golden age for these kinds of cars.

Sedan in WRC for 15+ years starting with the Legacy sedan and before that I'm pretty sure it's a sedan in all the early '80s rally pics/posters I've seen. WRX was sedan only at first. How long till a WRX 5door? Just sayin
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I'm a bit excited. The talk about more STI in the states. New engines/platforms. 50th anniversay with them saying special editions.
Hey I'm hopeful too, but sedanigans only, maybe not so much. We'll see. I've told my people not to get their hopes up for fear of disappointment. No expectations means if something rad actually comes, you'll bust a nut. They've shafted a segment of their customer base, Legacy Turbo wagon folks, Legacy GT folks, WRX hatch/wagon folks, and *cough* STi hatch folks. Let's hope they can right the ship. In the interim, I'm not giving them a drop of piss and will buy something else, from a competitor, for the third time in a row.
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So you're giving up your WRX pre-order, Pre?
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And btw misleading thread title is misleading

How so?
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So?

North AMERICAN Subaru Impreza Owners Club?

Says it right there up in the top left corner.


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So you're giving up your WRX pre-order, Pre?
Yep,yesterday, done. I just can't buy another car from them when the Levorg exists and SOA won't bring it for us. Just can't do it.

Notice how regulars here have bought one and moved on quickly? thill, scraps, etc? I paid attention. For the money it can't be beat but it's the wrong body style. I just can't support it. I buy that car and I'm telling them it's ok. No, and I told the sales mgr. why, and he passed it on to the GM. I told them something to the effect of "F'ing SOA" and "Levorg". Maybe they'll call SOA and tell them this no hatch stance is costing them sales. I specifically told him, that Subaru can send that damn thing to the Phillipines but not here? We are 60% of your business worldwide. WTF?

You know bad I want a stick again, some hp/tq, and AWD? I haven't had a performance 4 wheeler in 5 years dude. No AWD for 5 years. No stick for 3.
I want some performance awd manual shifting so bad I can taste it, like a fat kid wants cake, like trailer trash wants a case of natty light. That bad, and I deuced out. It makes absolutely no sense for me to buy something I'm just gonna sell or trade in. Lost TTL $, lost % on a loan, depreciation, just getting too old to waste my money on sheet I'm not happy with. In this segment, performance is defined in the hatchback segment, see the main two competitors. They aren't f'ing sedans. At this point I'd take a CVT only Levorg. I mean the cable 6spd manual in the WRX would fit without hardly blinking an eye, but if we had the 296HP 2.0L Levorg CVT, I'd buy it right now, and I'm no CVT fan.

I don't settle. Not for a woman, not for anything. Settling with thirty grand on the line? That's a lot of money to spend and not get exactly what you want and what they used to make. Only with cars do people throw sense out the window, and it's because they think in terms of payments instead of actual, factual cost. Interest money, tax, title, license, depreciation, running cost, insurance cost. I'm getting old I guess, for the last 3 years I've driven the most cost efficient vehicle on the road with a bumper to bumper warranty. It's a POS but it's dirt cheap. If I can't get something I really want, that I want to keep long term, and have some pride in, then wtf am I doing buying it in the first place?

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Special Editions, you say? I like, I like!
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Good on you, Pre! I'm actually happy you didn't settle. It's consistent. I had similar crisis with the new Impreza. Just can't do it when the thing I really want has existed, exists currently in some form where we can't purchase it, and has every right to exist right now.

It is interesting to see how many regulars jumped on the 2015 WRX and then moved on. It's telling. It's sad when people want the STI with the WRX engine. It used to always be the exact opposite!

I'm right behind you. Fortunately for me my responsibilities are minimal. Just gonna pay off this BRZ and save up for the next STI hatch. If I can pay for the entire thing up front, perfect. The wait will have been well worth it.

I'm sorry for your itch to drive stick. I have a hard time imagining myself returning to an automatic now that I've driven stick longer than an auto.

If your situation mostly boils down to simply waiting, why not just save up your money? I'd think between your DD and bikes you'd kinda sorta be able to hold off, right? Plus the other adult responsibilities you're obligated to, seems like it'd be nice to not have something right now that could distract you financially.

Just thinking out loud.
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Yeah; but, the pessimistic optimist in me looks forward to something cool; but, ready for special color with "50th Anniversary" badge on the side.

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Me too. I personally would have suggested you didn't get it; but, didn't want to "tell you what to do with your money" and since you actually had decided to get one, you obviously debated it enough with yourself(well, maybe not enough enough). I do think, however, that if you had a good enough DP, that WHEN they bring a 5door, you'd make out OK with a trade.
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That was my other thought too, that out of pretty much any car the WRX would retain its value best. But I don't want him to have it at all! Stay strong!
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