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Old 04-26-2017, 06:47 AM   #1
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Does the Honda Passport ring a bell to you? This was the first ever SUV that was sold by the Japanese automaker, but it was not that successful compared with other Honda models. Now the Japanese automotive company is planning to give the second life to the Passport.

The first SUV of Honda was sold from 1993 to 2002, which was clearly a tuned version of the Isuzu Rodeo featuring a 3.2 L V6 engine that can produce up to 205 hp. However after a dismal performance in the global market it was eventually replaced by the bigger Honda Pilot. By far this was not the only talks of different automakers vying to revive new trademarks of their once famous SUVs. Chevrolet is going to give the Blazer trademark another chance, also the American company Ford will also introduce the Bronco name again to the global market.

Lately there were talks that the Passport will have a second chance of redemption. Car and Driver stated in its blog that the Passport name was submitted by the Japanese automaker with the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office by last December. The application made a specific reference to the original trademark made for the Passport that dates back from May 11,1993.

This fits well with the previous rumors that a smaller version of the Pilot would be introduced with only 2 rows - a vehicle that would fit like a glove in between the Honda Pilot and the current CR-V. This vehicle will be competing with the likes of Nissan Murano and Ford Edge.

The production of the brand new shorter Pilot (presumably the new Passport) is rumored to commence at the Japanese automaker's Alabama factory in September of next year. If Honda's plan will proceed as scheduled, then the new automobile will likely be debuted next fall or early winter. The possibly new SUV will cost lesser than the recent Pilot, which has a starting price of about $31,535 and a $940 destination.

However, it is expected that it would be more expensive than the modern CR-V, which bears a base price of around $24,985. What the Japanese automaker is targeting is to offer a larger room space that the CR-V but without the weighty price increase to the larger pilot. This pricing/sizing strategy is closely similar to that of the Hyundai's Santa Fe and the smaller Santa Fe Sport.

The vehicle's powertrain options will have no significant change, it will still be built with a 3.5-liter V6 which can produce around 280 hp (208 kW) and 262 lb-ft of torque (355 Newton-Meters). The engine can be attached to either a 6 or 9 speed automatic as a base option. For now, there are still limited details surrounding the new Honda Passport: will the trademark even make its way to a production unit? Or is it just a concept car? Time will tell if this strategy will work out in the long run.
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Old 04-26-2017, 06:49 AM   #2
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ehh, screw it Honda, bring back the Prelude, you need a Halo that doesnt cost half a million, you know for average people who buy your products wearing sneakers not loofers
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2017 Honda Pilot in Depth: The SUV That Doesn’t Think It’s One


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manufacturers are doubling down on SUV's.

this strategy will backfire eventually.
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I was about to type "coupes are dead." But that's not really true, as the current Mustang has sold a few hundred thousand units globally. But the market is a lot smaller than during the Prelude's heyday, when you could get a Camaro, a Mustang, a Celica, a 240sx, a Prelude, an Mx-6/Probe or Cougar/Thunderbird, not to mention various German offerings.
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How long until all manufacturers drop cars and start selling CUV/SUV's and pickup trucks only? I feel like I'm part of a dying breed.
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I was about to type "coupes are dead." But that's not really true, as the current Mustang has sold a few hundred thousand units globally. But the market is a lot smaller than during the Prelude's heyday, when you could get a Camaro, a Mustang, a Celica, a 240sx, a Prelude, an Mx-6/Probe or Cougar/Thunderbird, not to mention various German offerings.
DSM's were probably the best selling of all the import (you can argue they were really domestic I suppose) coupes during the 90's.
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A new midsize crossover is in the works

By: Stefan Ogbac January 30, 2018




We knew Honda planned to bring back the Passport name, but now a new report claims to have some details on the upcoming model. The new two-row crossover is expected to slot in between the CR-V and the Pilot to compete with the likes of the Nissan Murano and Ford Edge.

A person familiar with the matter told Automotive News that the automaker will show the new Passport at a Honda dealer meeting in November before it goes on sale in early 2019. The source also told Automotive News that the Passport will likely debut at the 2018 Los Angeles Auto Show. However, a Honda spokesperson said the automaker hasn’t confirmed any details related to the vehicle and that any specifics are just speculative.

Originally produced from 1994 to 2002, the Passport was a rebadged Isuzu Rodeo. The new Passport, on the other hand, is expected to ride on the same platform as the Pilot but should be 6 inches shorter. It could be assembled at Honda’s Lincoln, Alabama plant, which produces three models: the Pilot, Ridgeline, and Odyssey.

If confirmed for production, the Passport will be the fourth member of Honda’s U.S. crossover lineup alongside the HR-V, CR-V, and Pilot. That should give the brand more offerings in the U.S. market, which currently favors crossovers, trucks, and other utility vehicles. In 2017, Honda’s crossover lineup grew over 5 percent compared to 2016. Overall light truck sales increased by 4.2 percent while car sales fell by 2.5 percent.
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Screw the Legend. Bring back the Integra.
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Old 02-02-2018, 06:29 AM   #13
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The two-row crossover is expected to be about 6 inches shorter than the Pilot and compete with the Ford Edge, Hyundai Santa Fe Sport and Nissan Murano in the U.S. midsize crossover segment. Chevrolet is also set to field a new similar-sized crossover under the revived Blazer name.

One person, citing conversations with dealers, said the new Passport will be shown at a Honda dealer meeting in November and go on sale in early 2019. It is also expected to be shown in November at the Los Angeles Auto Show.

"We have not confirmed any details related to this product so any specifics would be quite speculative at this point," a Honda spokesman said Tuesday.

The original Passport, a derivative of the Isuzu Rodeo, was Honda's first SUV and was sold from the 1994 through 2002

The new Passport is expected to be based on the Pilot platform and likely will be built in Lincoln, Ala., where Honda assembles the Pilot, Odyssey minivan and Ridgeline pickup.

Dealers have pressed Honda management for a near-premium crossover to rival the Edge and Murano.

The Passport will give the Honda brand a fourth crossover in a U.S. market that has shifted considerably to utility vehicles and pickups.

In 2017, U.S. sales of the Honda HR-V, CR-V and Pilot crossovers all grew more than 5 percent from the previous year in an overall light-vehicle market that shrank 1.8 percent, ending a streak of seven annual gains capped by record volume of 17.55 million in 2016.

Overall, the Honda brand's U.S. light-truck sales rose 4.2 percent to 734,264 in 2017, while car deliveries dropped 2.5 percent.
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To Chevy's credit, the Blazer drives like it looks—like it's trying to be the V-6 Camaro of crossovers. The Blazer is remarkably buttoned down and engaging to drive for the segment. Its V-6 is quiet and unobtrusive when you want it to be, but it wakes up when you open the throttle. Its nine-speed automatic is well tuned, too, with quick, decisive shifts.

How well the Blazer goes around a corner is largely irrelevant to most family buyers. For the record, it handles quite well for the class, making it good for emergency dashes due to childhood calamities. And the same qualities that make the Chevy enjoyable to drive also provide a better ride.

The Honda is most in its element when taking it easy. It feels bigger and softer and is at its best when cruising at a constant speed on the highway. At city speeds and when accelerating, its V-6 is neutered by its transmission; it shifts roughly at low speeds and is unresponsive when you need power. Its ride is on the stiffer side, minimizing roll and body motion with a slight ride-quality penalty. That allows it to handle rather well on twisty roads. But not as well as the Blazer. Despite Honda having a de facto home-court advantage at its own test track, like Duke struggling in Raleigh, the locale didn't help here.

Honda makes a late comeback when you look inside. Being a slightly smaller Pilot, the Passport feels open and airy. All of the functionality baked into the Pilot, from its massive center console and door-mounted cupholders to its sliding rear seat and large cargo area, finds its way into the Passport. It's incredibly functional, if a bit forgettable. Unfortunately, the Passport inherits the Pilot's noisier cabin, clunky infotainment system, and rear doors that open only about 70 degrees, which makes it harder to fit a car seat.

Despite having less interior volume than the Passport, the Blazer is remarkably efficient with its space. There's not quite as much storage in this sporty cabin, but up front Chevy provides the requisite cubbies for your phone and other knickknacks. Its roomy back seat offers a comfortable sliding and reclining heated bench with a flat floor helping ensure even the middle seat is usable. Rear doors that open nearly 90 degrees make installing a child car seat a breeze.

Ultimately, when two competitors are this close, the winner comes down to the small details. The Honda Passport is slavishly designed around providing enough space for your loved ones and their stuff. But often these vehicles serve as work-commuters, too, and here Chevy pays more attention to the driver. Besides, when hauling the whole family, everyone benefits from powertrain refinement and sound deadening.

Good family relationships often involve compromise, and that's what the Chevrolet Blazer does well. The Blazer is powerful, composed, and fun to drive while offering the latest in infotainment, a shockingly spacious rear seat, and creature comforts like heated seats and power ports for devices. Its stylish sheetmetal helps it stand out in a sea of lozenge-shaped crossovers. The Blazer is the family vehicle that actually appeals to the whole family, and for that reason it upsets the Honda on its home court.

2019 Chevrolet Blazer AWD RS 2019 Honda Passport Elite AWD
BASE PRICE $44,695 $44,725
PRICE AS TESTED $48,270 $44,725
VEHICLE LAYOUT Front-engine, AWD, 5-pass, 4-door SUV

Front-engine, AWD, 5-pass, 4-door SUV
ENGINE 0.0L/308-hp/270-lb-ft DOHC 24-valve V-6
3.5L/280-hp/262-lb-ft SOHC 24-valve V-6
TRANSMISSION 9-speed automatic 9-speed automatic
CURB WEIGHT (F/R DIST) 4,274 lb (59/41%) 4,186 lb (58/42%)
WHEELBASE 112.7 in 110.9 in
LENGTH x WIDTH x HEIGHT 191.4 x 76.7 x 67.0 in 190.5 x 78.6 x 72.2 in
0-60 MPH 6.1 sec 6.2 sec
QUARTER MILE 14.7 sec @ 95.5 mph 14.7 sec @ 94.0 mph
BRAKING, 60-0 MPH 126 ft 130 ft
LATERAL ACCELERATION 0.83 g (avg) 0.79 g (avg)
MT FIGURE EIGHT 27.1 sec @ 0.65 g (avg) 28.1 sec @ 0.62 g (avg)
EPA CITY/HWY/COMB FUEL ECON 18/25/21 mpg 19/24/21 mpg
ENERGY CONS, CITY/HWY 187/135 kW-hrs/100 miles 177/140 kW-hrs/100 miles
CO2 EMISSIONS, COMB 0.94 lb/mile 0.93 lb/mile
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Despite its rugged off-roader appearance, the Honda Passport isn't really an enthusiast car. It's just a Pilot with six inches cut out of the middle, third-row seating gone, a slight lift, and black body cladding for style. Slotting neatly between the CR-V and Pilot, the new Passport is very much a car for our SUV-crazed moment, where automakers rush to offer a high-rider for every conceivable customer.

This doesn't mean an enthusiast can't find things to enjoy about the Passport. Here are five.

The Engine
As everyone embraces turbocharging, the Passport stays refreshingly old-school with its single engine choice—a 3.5-liter naturally aspirated V-6. Ok, so with 280 hp and 262 lb-ft of torque, it's not exactly going to get anyone's heart racing, but it has good throttle response. That's paired with a nine-speed automatic transmission which is at its best when you put it in Sport mode, sacrificing fuel economy to stay in lower gears for quicker response. You also get paddle shifters, but I didn't really bother with them.

This engine can actually run on three cylinders, though if it did so at any point, I didn't notice. That's probably because it has active engine mounts that can help cancel the engine vibrations when switching from six- to three-cylinder mode.

The Steering

Honda did a good job tuning the Passport's electric steering, which has a slightly quicker ratio than the Pilot's and accurate weighting. Electric power steering allows engineers to filter out certain feedback that comes from the wheels, but the Passport's resisted the temptation to do so. If you run over a bump on one side, the steering will shimmy just a bit to let you know that the wheels are actually in contact with the road surface below. It's pleasantly surprising in a car like this.
The Handling

Despite being shorter than the Pilot its based on, the Passport is still a big car, and actually an inch-and-a-half taller. It drives smaller than that somehow. It's not nimble, of course, but it's hardly lumbering either, which I didn't expect. It actually has a brake-based torque vectoring system that can automatically apply the brakes to an inside wheel to increase agility. This isn't uncommon in modern cars, but not the sort of thing you'd expect from a family lugger like this.

The Passport also has what Honda calls Amplitude Reactive Dampers, which have two damping pistons—one used just to deal with small vertical motions; one for larger motions. Honda says the effect is good ride quality that doesn't come at the expense of excessive body roll. They seem to do the job, though I didn't honestly push the Passport hard. It's not what you do with this sort of thing.

The Pilot isn't ugly, though it doesn't turn heads either. The styling tweaks made to the Passport, though, turn this into a handsome rig. That shorter length, coupled with the extra ride height and black trim replacing the chrome help matters. It might be faux-ruggedness, but it works on me, and it'll certainly work on customers.

I think an enthusiast can appreciate good engineering, even if it's not in service of making a car more fun-to-drive. The interior in the Passport is rather plain and it doesn't have a tuning knob for the radio, which can be infuriating. However, all the controls are logically laid out, the visibility is great, and there's tons of storage space. It's all the sort of stuff Honda's grown to be very good at. The brand may have forgotten how to make performance cars for a couple of years, but it never lost its knack for packaging.

There are SUVs that are more fun to drive than the Passport—the Mazda CX-5, Jaguar F-Pace and Porsche Macan—but being fun isn't the aim of a car like this. For its intended role as a comfortable people-and-stuff lugger, it excels, while still being nice to drive. I didn't really go into this with any expectations—SUVs aren't my thing—but I came out with admiration for the Passport.
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Was going back and forth for along time
Needed an suv.
Honda Pilot or a Mercedes GLS 450 4matic
Well I made the final decision on a CPO
2017 fully fully loaded
No regrets fantastic vehicle . (AKA- GMC WANT TO BE LOL)
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