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Old 07-07-2018, 07:36 AM   #26
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do you combine the sales of A3/A4/A5 and consider it one homogamous vehicle to give audi such lofty status? because Q50 & TLX (and formerly IS) have each outsold the A4 in the entry luxury sedan class for the past decade, or perhaps the buyers of those vehicles are members of a non-general buying public?
I bet you the Camry also outsold the A4...didn't realize this thread was talking about sales figures. I bet Audi sold more A4 models than Ferrari sold 488 Pista...no, it really is true. So that means...




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I bet you the Camry also outsold the A4...didn't realize this thread was talking about sales figures. I bet Audi sold more A4 models than Ferrari sold 488 Pista...no, it really is true. So that means...
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sorry, when you kept throwing around the term 'general public' i assumed you meant sales figures (within the same class - i realize you threw the camry in there since obviously you consider that entry luxury class and not a bald-faced attempt to cover up a weak rebuttal argument).

but since you were not talking sales figures, please post your scientific poll of the 'general public' that obviously only you possess, so that the rest of us may share in this wealth of knowledge. thank you sir!
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sorry, when you kept throwing around the term 'general public' i assumed you meant sales figures (within the same class - i realize you threw the camry in there since obviously you consider that entry luxury class and not a bald-faced attempt to cover up a weak rebuttal argument).

but since you were not talking sales figures, please post your scientific poll of the 'general public' that obviously only you possess, so that the rest of us may share in this wealth of knowledge. thank you sir!
I'm done with you around this, as you seem to want to argue about something I have no interest in arguing about...sales figures for Infinity, Acura, and Audi. Not sure what you are on about in regards to the Kia Stinger, which is what the discussion was/is about, so go play with someone else, I'm not interested and have other things to do. Go bait someone else buddy.
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Though the Stinger is still ticking off the miles without major flaws, our experience with it is changing.

Our 2018 Kia Stinger GT Is Showing Its Age at 30,000 Miles
Though the Stinger is still ticking off the miles without major flaws, our experience with it is changing.
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2018 Kia Stinger GTChris Doane AutomotiveCar and Driver

30,000-Mile Update
In our last update, at just over 24,000 miles, we pointed out that the Kia Stinger, though reliable and quick, lacked the inspirational goulash to trigger any substantive commentary. Despite an engine capable of producing shocking acceleration, the $48,400 sedan rarely managed to transform the time between work and home into anything more than a gray area for thought.

But those days seem to be over. And now, because there is something to notice, people are noticing. Largely, this is because the Stinger has gone from a quiet and often-forgettable instrument of rapid travel to a rattling and shaking drama queen in less than 6000 miles.

It's possible, we'll admit, that this can't be blamed entirely on the Stinger. One of the most noticeable issues likely can be traced back to the braking portion of our performance tests. The downward spiral of the Stinger's brake rotors, which by 24,230 miles were severely warped, can only stem from those initial tests. Aside from one excursion to Kentucky, the car hardly left the flat lands of Michigan during that time. Our dealer machined the rotors, which wound up being a temporary fix. By 28,740 miles, the vibration during braking had fully returned, at which point the dealer opted to replace all four rotors. This experience serves as confirmation of our discovery last year at Lightning Lap that braking is not the Stinger's strength.

Rattle and Thrum
The rattling is another issue altogether, one emanating from the big hatch's hatch itself. The initial dealer visit to resolve the brake-rotor problem was accompanied by a request to remedy a rattle from the back of the car. The dealer adjusted the striker on the hatch, but that proved to be a temporary repair. About 1500 miles later, we were back at the dealer and asked them to address the hatch rattle again, which they did, again, unsuccessfully. A third attempt to kill the noise was made at 28,740 miles, and this one, thus far at least, has stuck

During that visit, the dealer also performed a recall service on the car's wiring harness, which hadn't yet revealed itself to be a problem. There was, however, a warning informing us to "check electronic suspension," which the dealer did during our 24K-mile visit. The problem component, a faulty rear g sensor, was replaced immediately.


If there's anything positive coming from these experiences, it's that none of this has cost us any money, because all the repairs were made under warranty. It's hard to ignore the fact that no news might very well be good news for the Stinger. It's survived a full Michigan winter without a single bent wheel, and when it's cleaned up, it looks the business, prompting one staffer to point out that the Stinger breeds its own brand of exclusivity—that of being not just a striking, quick sedan, but also being Korean.

Calmness has mostly returned to the Stinger's driving experience as of this check-in, and we're blaming the remaining, relatively insignificant, freeway-speed vibrations on the Kia's winter tires, which have seen a season of abuse without needing to be rebalanced.

Months in Fleet: 13 months Current Mileage: 29,867 miles
Average Fuel Economy: 21 mpg
Fuel Tank Size: 15.9 gal Observed Fuel Range: 330 miles
Service: $579 Normal Wear: $145 Repair: $0

Specifications
VEHICLE TYPE
front-engine, all-wheel-drive, 5-passenger, 4-door hatchback

PRICE AS TESTED
$48,400 (base price: $41,450)

ENGINE TYPE
twin-turbocharged and intercooled DOHC 24-valve V-6, aluminum block and heads, direct fuel injection

Displacement
204 cu in, 3342 cc
Power
365 hp @ 6000 rpm
Torque
376 lb-ft @ 1300 rpm

TRANSMISSION
8-speed automatic with manual shifting mode

CHASSIS
Suspension (F/R): struts/multilink
Brakes (F/R): 13.8-in vented disc/13.4-in vented disc
Tires: Bridgestone Potenza RE97AS-02, 225/45R-18 95V M+S

DIMENSIONS
Wheelbase: 114.4 in
Length: 190.2 in
Width: 73.6 in
Height: 55.1 in
Passenger volume: 96 cu ft
Cargo volume: 23 cu ft
Curb weight: 4082 lb

PERFORMANCE (NEW)
Zero to 60 mph: 4.7 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 11.5 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 20.2 sec
Rolling start, 5–60 mph: 5.2 sec
Top gear, 30–50 mph: 2.6 sec
Top gear, 50–70 mph: 3.3 sec
Standing -mile: 13.2 sec @ 107 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 133 mph
Braking, 70–0 mph: 179 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.85 g

PERFORMANCE (12,500 miles with summer tires)
Zero to 60 mph: 4.6 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 11.2 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 19.8 sec
Rolling start, 5–60 mph: 5.3 sec
Top gear, 30–50 mph: 2.6 sec
Top gear, 50–70 mph: 3.4 sec
Standing -mile: 13.2 sec @ 108 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 133 mph
Braking, 70–0 mph: 170 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.89 g

C/D
FUEL ECONOMY
Observed: 21 mpg
75-mph highway driving: 26 mpg
Highway range: 350 miles
Unscheduled oil additions: 0 qt

EPA FUEL ECONOMY:
Combined/city/highway: 21/19/25 mpg

WARRANTY:

5 years/60,000 miles bumper to bumper;
10 years/100,000 miles powertrain;
5 years/100,000 miles corrosion protection;
5 years/60,000 miles roadside assistance

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20,000-Mile Update
Versatility gets a car a lot of mileage around here—both literally and figuratively. Family-laden staffers pile children and Cheerios into our sedans and SUVs every day. And the domestically unencumbered use the big vehicles to haul friends on weekend adventures. This, folks, is prime territory for our long-term Kia Stinger GT. And as capable as the hatchback is at performing family freeway duty, it functions just as well when asked to haul a bike or a bookcase.

Certainly, the Stinger will never be a tool dedicated to driving pleasure, but it's solid enough at six-tenths to get the nod over most SUVs from anyone with committed on-ramp intentions. And the more we drive the Stinger, the more we like its mix of utility, style, and, well, the fact that it easily hits 60 mph in less than five seconds.


Not a single person is polarized by this car. It stirs almost nothing from anyone. The empty pages of its logbook at 24,075 miles tell a hard-to-ignore story about the Stinger's depth of character. And the existing comments range from modest compliments to tepid criticism. Some editors call the Stinger boring. Others accuse it of looking sportier than it really is—an assessment, which, though accurate, fails to paint a complete picture of the Kia's broad scope of talents. But most editors just piled on the miles without feeling compelled to say anything at all. So if the Stinger has a great sin, it's that of failing to trigger any emotion among its constituents

Some Minor Issues Have Cropped Up
The Stinger's latest service at just shy of 24,000 miles amounted to $183 for an engine oil and filter change, new engine and cabin air filters, and myriad inspections. However, we've already scheduled a return appointment with the dealer to have a handful of nonroutine issues investigated and fixed. A persistent rattle from our Kia's hatch sprang up sometime in the last 5000 miles, but the offending interior components have not been easy to track down, despite the noise sounding like a cannon in the cargo area when driving. Warped brake rotors, which have manifested in a pulsing brake pedal, are another problem we noticed about 5000 miles ago. Piling on the miles is only worsening the issue.


We've also yet to address the car's wiring harness recall—the parts are still on order from the dealer, albeit for a not-yet-unreasonable amount of time—as well as its most recently observed problem: A warning light to "check electronic suspension" appeared and then initially disappeared after multiple key cycles but is now a regular occurrence whenever the car is fired up.

As to the extent of the Stinger's travels since our last checkup, we'll say that Michiganders like to go "Up North" in their spare time. It's just a thing here. The Stinger's trips have included refueling in exotic northerly destinations from Kawkawlin to Harbor Springs. But mostly it's done daily duty around Ann Arbor, which means it has seen no shortage of the worst paved roads extant. And it doesn't have a single bent wheel to show for it.

Months in Fleet: 11 months Current Mileage: 24,075 miles
Average Fuel Economy: 21 mpg
Fuel Tank Size: 15.9 gal Observed Fuel Range: 330 miles
Service: $382 Normal Wear: $145 Repair: $0


10,000-Mile Update
WHAT WE LIKE: If we had to sum up the Kia Stinger in a single word, that word would be progress. Because, more than anything else, that's what this four-door grand tourer represents. Progress in quality. Progress in execution. And progress in boldness. Boldness is required to build a car like the Stinger. It doesn't quite fit perfectly into any predefined segment—it's not really a luxury sedan, and it's not completely a sports sedan. Technically, it isn't even a sedan at all—it is a big four-door hatchback GT car with ample power and comfort. And it doesn't embarrass itself in moderately hard driving, either. That's progress.

But beyond the step forward the Stinger represents for the brand, it's also a pleasure to live with. Comfortable, quick, and easy to use, it's an excellent high-velocity road-trip companion. Associate online editor Joseph Capparella might have put it best in his logbook entry: "I love this car. It's a quick, refined, elegant, and stylish grand tourer that cruises effortlessly at high speeds while offering tons of space for both people and cargo."


At our prompting, Kia delivered a set of summer tires for our all-wheel-drive Stinger GT—an OE set of 19-inch Michelin Pilot Sport 4 rubber—which improved its performance in both instrumented testing and in daily use. Acceleration remains largely the same, with 60 mph arriving in 4.6 seconds rather than 4.7. The quarter-mile time, at 13.2 seconds, didn’t change, but both roadholding (0.89 g versus 0.85) and 70-mph-to-zero braking (170 feet versus 179) were measurably better. Happily, the transmission-overheat warning we experienced almost immediately in our first trip to the track remained at bay this time until our last few runs. The Stinger's on-road performance gives no indication that its transmission is heat sensitive, which leads us to believe this isn't a problem that will crop up in even the most grueling on-road duty cycle.

WHAT WE DON’T LIKE: Remarkably few negative comments color the Stinger's logbook. One editor disapproved of the graining on the center of the steering wheel—a nit if we've ever found one to pick—and several of us noticed that the touchscreen is a long, awkward reach from the driver's seat. Removing and replacing the all-season tires has largely eliminated any grumbles about dry-weather performance, although the empirical improvements aren't as great as some had hoped.


WHAT WENT WRONG: Aside from the aforementioned transmission-overheat warning, which resolved itself when the track beating subsided, exactly zero mechanical issues have plagued our Stinger. We've changed the oil twice to date—the first visit included a cabin air-filter replacement, and both included inspections—for a total of $162.

WHERE WE WENT: Here's the thing about the Midwest that left and right coasters might miss: It's pretty close to Kentucky and West Virginia, both of which offer a surfeit of driving roads, many of which are well suited to the Stinger's smooth-but-fast corner-slaying abilities. Interstate 77 through West Virginia offers just the right balance of speed and twist to appreciate the Stinger's talents. The Stinger made the trip to our annual Lightning Lap track battle at Virginia International Raceway and has also made several additional trips to Kentucky and Ohio. Sweetening all its miles is our Stinger's 22-mpg observed fuel economy, 1 mpg better than the EPA combined estimate.

Months in Fleet: 5 months Current Mileage: 13,121 miles
Average Fuel Economy: 22 mpg
Fuel Tank Size: 15.9 gal Observed Fuel Range: 350 miles
Service: $162 Normal Wear: $0 Repair: $0

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Kia’s Stinger says something about the company. Possibly that the Koreans will try anything once. But that’s good for us because it’s hard not to like the Stinger, a shapely four-door hatchback with as much as 365 horsepower under its hood. Part sports sedan, part luxury sedan, and part practical family hauler, the Stinger has intrigued us since it first hit the show stand as the Kia GT concept back in 2011. Part of that intrigue is a result of the Stinger retaining its styling character between show stand and showroom, something few concept cars manage to do.


Available in rear- or all-wheel drive and equipped only with Kia’s in-house-built eight-speed automatic, the Stinger was among the first models powered by the corporate twin-turbocharged 3.3-liter V-6, which is largely responsible for shaping the car’s character. A 255-hp turbocharged 2.0-liter inline-four is the base engine, but for life with a Stinger we opted for the burlier powerplant.

A spring arrival for our long-term Stinger presented the perfect opportunity for Kia to supply our long-term all-wheel-drive car on its standard 19-inch summer tires, yet the blue hatchback arrived on 18-inch Bridgestone all-season rubber, a zero-cost option. Although there’s no financial burden associated with the mediocre rubber, we paid a 0.06-g penalty in lateral acceleration. Our car circled the skidpad at 0.85 g versus 0.91 g for the last all-wheel-drive V-6 Stinger we tested, which was on summer tires. Our initial test (the numbers shown here) was performed on the all-seasons, but we’ve since installed a set of Michelin Pilot Sport 4 rubber—the factory summer fitment—to get us through the warm months.


Our GT1-trim car’s V-6 is the same twin-turbo engine we praised in our first test of the model for propelling the rear-drive version of the car to a ludicrous 12.9-second quarter-mile at 111 mph. All-wheel-drive Stingers aren’t as quick, ours turning in a 13.2-second run at 107 mph. A launch-controlled 60 mph arrived in 4.7 seconds and was accompanied by a persistent overheating-transmission warning, which eventually manifested in activating limp mode after repeated runs with the eight-speed shifting itself. We could be off to a better start.

Electronically controlled dampers with two ranges of calibration are standard on the GT1, but the limited-slip rear differential—available on the V-6’s base GT trim and standard on the GT2—is curiously unavailable on the GT1. Optionally fitted to our Stinger is the $2000 Advanced Driver Assist System (a.k.a. the Kia Drive Wise package), which adds forward-collision-warning and -avoidance features, adaptive cruise control, lane-keeping assist and lane-departure warnings, and other predictive and preventive safety features that help drive its price from $46,350 to $48,400 as tested. (The cheapest way into a V-6 all-wheel-drive Stinger is $41,450.)

We know the Stinger isn’t a limit-driving fiend even on its summer tires. But the car’s around-town and highway ride comfort are desirable companions, as is its utilitarian four-door hatchback body. Possibly these will be sufficient to mitigate this Stinger’s performance compromises when we render final judgment after 40,000 miles.

Months in Fleet: 3 months Current Mileage: 5066 miles
Average Fuel Economy: 21 mpg
Fuel Tank Size: 15.9 gal Fuel Range: 330 miles
Service: $0 Normal Wear: $0 Repair: $0

Specifications
VEHICLE TYPE
front-engine, all-wheel-drive, 5-passenger, 4-door hatchback

PRICE AS TESTED
$48,400 (base price: $41,450)

ENGINE TYPE
twin-turbocharged and intercooled DOHC 24-valve V-6, aluminum block and heads, direct fuel injection

Displacement
204 cu in, 3342 cc
Power
365 hp @ 6000 rpm
Torque
376 lb-ft @ 1300 rpm

TRANSMISSION
8-speed automatic with manual shifting mode

CHASSIS
Suspension (F/R): struts/multilink
Brakes (F/R): 13.8-in vented disc/13.4-in vented disc
Tires: Bridgestone Potenza RE97AS-02, 225/45R-18 95V M+S

DIMENSIONS
Wheelbase: 114.4 in
Length: 190.2 in
Width: 73.6 in
Height: 55.1 in
Passenger volume: 96 cu ft
Cargo volume: 23 cu ft
Curb weight: 4082 lb

PERFORMANCE (NEW)
Zero to 60 mph: 4.7 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 11.5 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 20.2 sec
Rolling start, 5–60 mph: 5.2 sec
Top gear, 30–50 mph: 2.6 sec
Top gear, 50–70 mph: 3.3 sec
Standing -mile: 13.2 sec @ 107 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 133 mph
Braking, 70–0 mph: 179 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.85 g

PERFORMANCE (12,500 miles with summer tires)
Zero to 60 mph: 4.6 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 11.2 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 19.8 sec
Rolling start, 5–60 mph: 5.3 sec
Top gear, 30–50 mph: 2.6 sec
Top gear, 50–70 mph: 3.4 sec
Standing -mile: 13.2 sec @ 108 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 133 mph
Braking, 70–0 mph: 170 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.89 g

C/D
FUEL ECONOMY
Observed: 21 mpg
75-mph highway driving: 26 mpg
Highway range: 350 miles
Unscheduled oil additions: 0 qt

EPA FUEL ECONOMY:
Combined/city/highway: 21/19/25 mpg

WARRANTY:

5 years/60,000 miles bumper to bumper;
10 years/100,000 miles powertrain;
5 years/100,000 miles corrosion protection;
5 years/60,000 miles roadside assistance

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Old 05-07-2019, 12:06 PM   #30
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Uh huh.

Sure, tell yourself that to feel better.


Next time you're planning a trip to the dragon and taking days off work etc.... just remember, many of us call that driving home from work.
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Looks like Kia is offering pretty steep discounts and rebates for new Stingers. 33K for a Stinger GT is a steal. There are people who pay more than that for a Limited trim WRX, and it's also cheaper than a base-model STi with the dinosaur engine.

https://jalopnik.com/kia-is-practica...ers-1834577355
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What I got out of that article/update, it's a good car.
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What I got out of that article/update, it's a good car.
Yeah. Nothing to really say "we had this, that, and the other problem"... unlike some long term early Quadrifoglios. Just some regular kind of maintenance. Brakes are always a crapshoot in heavy cars. They got it close at least.

If only you could get GT1 or GT2 without sunroof. It impeded too much into headroom for my height to even take one out on the road. It was a sit in it, adjust seat as low as possible, head rubs, and "thanks for your time."

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What I got out of that article/update, it's a good car.
As long as you get one on the cheap. They will be good value on the used market.
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Yeah. Nothing to really say "we had this, that, and the other problem"... unlike some long term early Quadrifoglios. Just some regular kind of maintenance. Brakes are always a crapshoot in heavy cars. They got it close at least.

If only you could get GT1 or GT2 without sunroof. It impeded too much into headroom for my height to even take one out on the road. It was a sit in it, adjust seat as low as possible, head rubs, and "thanks for your time."

--kC
This is one of the few times being short (5'6) has been beneficial to me. I have never, ever been able to relate to the whole "sunroof = not enough headroom" complaint

Of course, 95% of the rest of the time, being short sucks
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This is one of the few times being short (5'6) has been beneficial to me. I have never, ever been able to relate to the whole "sunroof = not enough headroom" complaint

Of course, 95% of the rest of the time, being short sucks
Except for getting hugs from supermodels, amirite?
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The cars looks great (stinger/g70) but i get bored after 5 years. The potential resale value really scares me when spending $50k on a Korean car. The resale on elantras, sonatas, etc are horrendous.
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I wonder if they got the recall done for the rear hatch rattle? Could be part of the rattles they mentioned.
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The cars looks great (stinger/g70) but i get bored after 5 years. The potential resale value really scares me when spending $50k on a Korean car. The resale on elantras, sonatas, etc are horrendous.
Use it to your advantage - buy used, let someone else take the depreciation.

I got my '14 Cadenza in '18 for 50% off.
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small fuel tank, only dark interior better off getting a turbo sonata.
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It's a Kia, they are cheap. Plenty 2018's in the low $30's and some in the $20's.

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small fuel tank, only dark interior better off getting a turbo sonata.
Except for that whole FWD vs. RWD thing.
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The fuel tank is 15.9 gallons according to Google which is the exact same capacity as the current-gen WRX/STi. It's bigger than the Accord (14.8) and 3-series (15.6), and is only 2 gallons smaller than the 5-series (18). Doesn't seem small to me.

Personally I like black interiors (and the GT2 has a nice red option) but I can understand how a lot of prospective buyers for a car of this sort might prefer beiges, grays and whites instead.
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Old 05-10-2019, 05:50 PM   #43
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Use it to your advantage - buy used, let someone else take the depreciation.

I got my '14 Cadenza in '18 for 50% off.
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Old 05-11-2019, 06:28 AM   #44
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i'd consider one if it:

1) wasn't so ****ing goofy-looking
2) had two less doors
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Old 05-11-2019, 11:16 AM   #45
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The fuel tank is 15.9 gallons according to Google which is the exact same capacity as the current-gen WRX/STi. It's bigger than the Accord (14.8) and 3-series (15.6), and is only 2 gallons smaller than the 5-series (18). Doesn't seem small to me.

Personally I like black interiors (and the GT2 has a nice red option) but I can understand how a lot of prospective buyers for a car of this sort might prefer beiges, grays and whites instead.
It's bigger than a small wrx, so it should have a similar size tank to the midsize kia optima/sonata at 18.5. Its 7 inches bigger than the luxury small g70 yet has the same size tank yet G80 is 7 inches bigger than the stinger and has a 20gal tank. Even jaguar realize their mistake putting a small 15.9 tank on the f-pace and has increase it to 21.7 gallons.
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Old 05-12-2019, 10:21 PM   #46
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Seems like a prototypical Korean car. Neither bad nor inspiring, solid vanilla middle of the road. I love the concept of power and RWD in a sedan with a hatch, but it doesn't seem to age well and the typical Korean resale will undoubtedly reflect that.
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Seems like a prototypical Korean car. Neither bad nor inspiring, solid vanilla middle of the road. I love the concept of power and RWD in a sedan with a hatch, but it doesn't seem to age well and the typical Korean resale will undoubtedly reflect that.
In most of the reviews I've seen or read, the person reviewing is surprised at how good the Stinger is, even the 4-cyl version. I'd say it's somewhere above vanilla middle-of-the-road, so much so that it's on my short-list for replacing my Cadenza in a year or two (after prices of used ones drop). I'll be looking for an AWD model, but RWD would be okay too.
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