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Old 01-16-2014, 02:28 PM   #26
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Not a fan of the new front end, but I don't like the plain previous generation's front end either. Either way, 700lbs diet is a great thing. Too bad they couldn't do that to the Mustang.
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Old 01-16-2014, 03:00 PM   #27
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I thought the Mustang did shed some weight
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Old 01-16-2014, 03:03 PM   #28
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I thought the Mustang did shed some weight
not known for certain, and even if it did, not 700 lbs.
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Old 01-16-2014, 04:06 PM   #29
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not known for certain, and even if it did, not 700 lbs.
Nothing official announced yet, but most media was saying it was only a few lbs here and there. I certainly hope that when it's officially announced, it's the 200lbs they were saying it would be.
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Old 01-16-2014, 05:26 PM   #30
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Anybody know what the drivetrain mule for the Jaguar XJ220 was?

A Ford Transit work van.
In a way, that seems much more fun.
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Old 01-16-2014, 07:52 PM   #31
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Ford is great at that sort of thing.

Anybody know what the drivetrain mule for the Jaguar XJ220 was?

A Ford Transit work van.
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Old 01-16-2014, 08:16 PM   #32
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The only give away is the Jaguar XJ220 wheels
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Old 01-17-2014, 10:00 AM   #33
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Old 01-17-2014, 10:59 AM   #34
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The only give away is the Jaguar XJ220 wheels
You know, when the local XJ220 shows up at the shop around the corner, I'm not looking at the wheels.
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Old 01-17-2014, 12:27 PM   #35
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I thought the Mustang did shed some weight
Rumor has the new GT is not lighter than the outgoing GT or something like that.
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Old 01-17-2014, 03:29 PM   #36
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700 lbs is pretty amazing, wish they could cut that out of every modern vehicle...
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Old 01-17-2014, 04:13 PM   #37
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700 lbs is pretty amazing, wish they could cut that out of every modern vehicle...
They can, Ford is just also doing the important thing and keeping price similar, despite a big improvement. Or at least I expect them to, since they're hitting home runs lately.
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Old 01-17-2014, 05:02 PM   #38
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Remember, this is a VERY high volume vehicle. That's how they can get away with an aluminum body that will be affordable.
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Old 01-17-2014, 05:51 PM   #39
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Old 01-17-2014, 09:36 PM   #40
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Rumor has the new GT is not lighter than the outgoing GT or something like that.
I've heard that as well but have also heard that it is. Noone knows **** yet.

No weight gain and an all around better car. I'm ok with this.
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Old 01-19-2014, 05:17 PM   #41
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Well considering Fords were already 400ish lbs heavier than a similar GM truck I guess the gains aren't all that impressive.

Not crazy about the styling but I do like the tech they have in it. It'll be time for me to buy a new pickup by spring of next year if all goes well. Have to see if they look better in person I suppose.
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Old 01-20-2014, 11:28 AM   #42
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Well considering Fords were already 400ish lbs heavier than a similar GM truck I guess the gains aren't all that impressive.

Not crazy about the styling but I do like the tech they have in it. It'll be time for me to buy a new pickup by spring of next year if all goes well. Have to see if they look better in person I suppose.
They were that much heavier because they overbuilt and underrated the specs of all their trucks. Someone who worked at ford came in a while ago and said he got to watch a tundra and GMC get put through the same tests ford put the f150 through and it was a joke. He then proceeded to also say ford should just be pushing their customers to the f250 if they need it, which is true :P. No reason to build a truck for the idiot who overloads or over-tows it.
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Old 01-20-2014, 06:44 PM   #43
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Ford won't say how much of the weight savings is from aluminum; I'm guessing less than half.
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Old 01-24-2014, 12:07 PM   #44
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As a Steel Worker, it will be unfortunate to loose business to the aluminum companies. Progress is progress.

Fords claim that the cost to repair damage shouldn't increase insurance premiums makes me skeptical. I had some hail damage to my 2012 F150 and State Farm had a fit about how much the Aluminum hood cost. The paintless dent remover guy wasn't able to fix it and it needed replaced. He was able to get the dents out of the rest of the fenders and roof without repainting or replacement.
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Old 01-24-2014, 12:12 PM   #45
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As a Steel Worker, it will be unfortunate to loose business to the aluminum companies. Progress is progress.

Fords claim that the cost to repair damage shouldn't increase insurance premiums makes me skeptical. I had some hail damage to my 2012 F150 and State Farm had a fit about how much the Aluminum hood cost. The paintless dent remover guy wasn't able to fix it and it needed replaced. He was able to get the dents out of the rest of the fenders and roof without repainting or replacement.
I can vouch that hail damage blows on aluminum. I went through a mild hail storm in the S, every other part of the car is dentless, but that hood was so bad it had to be replaced as well. I now have a carbon fiber hood, and have since added a CF trunk, hard top, wing, and front splitter to complete it.
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Old 01-24-2014, 12:23 PM   #46
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Remember, this is a VERY high volume vehicle. That's how they can get away with an aluminum body that will be affordable.
if this is true, i want my aluminum corolla.
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if this is true, i want my aluminum corolla.
Until a 5000 pound steel truck rear ends you.
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Old 01-24-2014, 04:01 PM   #48
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The price of Aluminum isn't all that stable, hasn't been for years. It's great that they are trying (again). The last big AL push lasted 2-3 years and everyone went back to steel because of cost. We have much better steel now because of it though. Competition is good.

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Old 01-24-2014, 07:06 PM   #49
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Who wants to bet the new F-150 with the 2.7L Eco boosted will get better MPG than the STi?
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Old 02-19-2014, 10:23 AM   #50
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Long before pick-up trucks became affectations for over-compensating Toby Keith fans, they were utilitarian vehicles. That is to say, work trucks.

Ford wants to make its new F-150 is still rugged enough to handle the demands of contractors and other work-a-day pick-up drivers. So they have employed several, shall we say, girthy gentlemen to test the F-150's endurance in a most unique way.

Detroit News: In an effort to improve the durability of its leather-wrapped truck seats, Ford hired a firm to enlist the help of men of a certain size: at least 265 pounds. Dressed in dirty jeans, their mission was to climb into the driver’s seat, get down and climb up again, at least 10,000 times per truck.

The result of that punishment-testing is a pair of front seats made of higher-strength steel and tougher leather that weigh a combined 30 pounds less than the current seats, but withstand consistent beating from the beefiest and grimiest truck drivers.

These testers, expected to wear the same pair of dirty jeans throughout the whole process, worked ten hour shifts getting in and out of the F-150 to make sure its seats could handle the punishment of manly working men.

If we didn't know this was a product test, one might be tempted to think it was the weirdest fetish video shoot ever.
http://www.deadlinedetroit.com/artic...t_in_new_f-150
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