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Old 07-01-2018, 07:41 AM   #1
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The Kia Stinger GT1 shows the automaker is looking to attract attention with its designs and products.

Cars of various kinds have come to seem kind of ordinary or even passed their prime even though still much go and fit anywhere 99% of motorists go day in and day out with a minimum fuss and great efficiency.

But they are also kind of boring, which is one of the primary reasons buyers have moved toward the compact two-box SUVs that have become so popular during the past couple of years?

The Kia Stinger, however, is one car that doesn’t try to hide the fact it is a car and is certainly anything but humdrum. Indeed, the Stinger is quick, cleverly packaged so it doesn’t feel cramped when you are sitting in the driver’s seat and comes with all kinds amenities, including up-to-date technology and as well as convenience-oriented features.

In addition, it also fulfills the first duty of any small car, it’s great fun to drive anywhere and even matches up well with a pretty impressive list of competitors such as the Audi A5, BMW 4 series and the Infiniti Q50.


The 2018 Kia Stinger adopts a classic, rear-drive, GT look with its long nose and short overhangs.

The Stinger looks great. From front to back, the it has sleek, highly stylized exterior that conveys the car’s power and sophistication. The strength starts in the front with the tightly crafted grille, headlamp treat and fascia that are both distinctive and functional by helping bolster the cars aerodynamics.

Along the sides, the Stinger carries a minimum or ornamentation back to the sheet meet over the rear wheel, which is curved to give the car muscular-looking shoulders and a neatly tailored rear deck that slants away from the tapering roof. The overall appearance is both graceful and powerful and the conveys the carefully balanced proportions of a car designed around a rear-wheel-drive layout

On the inside, the cabin is comfortable, and the simple layout of center console and instrument panel seems to open up space in the interior so the drive doesn’t seem pinched, which is one of mistakes that the designers of so-called driver-oriented cockpits seem to make It also very well equipped with dual-zone climate controls to go along with the adjustable seats, push button start, 720-watt Harmon Kardon sound system and on-board navigation in the center stack.

In the Kia, the driver’s position is laid out in a way that gives the driver plenty of visibility and makes the car easy to control, making the vehicle most satisfying to drive and all kinds of conditions such as intense rain. The wheel base on the Stinger is also longer than that of the Audi A5 or BMW 4-series, which serves to make it roomier even in the rear seat where the roof being to slant into the rear deck.

Inside the Kia Stinger GT1.
The Stinger’s also has excellent driving dynamics during tight maneuvers or at speed. The suspension on the Stinger is first rate, offering the driver ample stability at all times. The electric-powered steering also quite precise and the brakes have more than enough stopping power. In fact, Kia points out that the brakes on the Stinger GT1 that I drove are larger than those on the Audi A5 or Lexus GS.

The Stinger GT1 that I got to drive was also equipped with a 3.3-liter-V6 engine with an eight-speed transmission and all-wheel-drive system. The driver also can select the drive mode but I found the Stinger was very quick from a standing start regardless of the mode in which it was placed. The car seemed to rocket away from stoplight or around slower moving vehicles on the freeway with the lightest touch on the throttle. Basically, the Stinger really does have a whole lot of zip.

In addition to Bluetooth, Android Auto and Apple Car Play and a satellite radio link, the Stinger also comes with a full complement of driver assistance technology that should, in theory, help enhance the protection the car provides the driver and passengers beyond that offered by the multiple air bags and standard seat belts.

The lengthy list of a driver assistance features available on the Stinger includes forward collision warning and avoidance, lane keep assistance, lane departure warning, driver attention warning as well and blind spot detection, rear-cross-traffic alert as well high beam assistance and rain-sensing windshield wipers.

I thought the Stinger’s layout and appearance were terrific and the car was a lot of fun to drive. But I did have to wonder with its price tag of $47,450 with the extras even before the $900 destination charge if it would ever find the kind of buyers who would really appreciate it the most.
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Old 07-03-2018, 01:50 AM   #2
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Not a bad looking car but it's still a KIA.
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has the looks of a Bangle era BMW and local Kia dealer here wants $7,000 over sticker I'm sure it has a market but none I know want one.
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has the looks of a Bangle era BMW and local Kia dealer here wants $7,000 over sticker I'm sure it has a market but none I know want one.
ADM on a Kia... This car will not last long.
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I still don't see this as competition for the luxury brands; maybe infinity, but I consider them "near luxury" not luxury.

I honestly see the stingers competition as the dodge charger and (out of production) Chevy SS.

I don't think it will be around long though; I can't see many people jumping ship from the Germans Kia is trying to target.
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Old 07-03-2018, 12:07 PM   #6
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They should be directly targeting people who are buying Honda, Toyota, Mazda, Nissan, etc. as offering those customers something the affordable Japanese brands don't/won't. If people want to buy a BMW/Merc/Audi, they are going to buy one. They are not going to go out and get a Kia, no matter how nice it is.
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has the looks of a Bangle era BMW and local Kia dealer here wants $7,000 over sticker I'm sure it has a market but none I know want one.
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ADM on a Kia... This car will not last long.
A couple of early fools may have paid ADM; but sales data on past transactions from KBB or TRUEcar show that people are paying slightly above invoice right now.
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If it does well, it would be because it's taking sales away from the Accord/Camry marketshare. They can use their German targets as marketing material, but in reality, I doubt they are really expecting someone to choose the car over a 3 series or C class. However, if it DOES do well, then Honda and Toyota might actually take notice and offer something similarly "sporty" and maybe this car can open up the market segment that Infiniti has been sitting in. Basically, the affordable, RWD sports sedan market. We'll see. Personally, I'd take an Infiniti over this. But I wouldn't be shopping for a 3 series anyway.
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They should be directly targeting people who are buying Honda, Toyota, Mazda, Nissan, etc. as offering those customers something the affordable Japanese brands don't/won't. If people want to buy a BMW/Merc/Audi, they are going to buy one. They are not going to go out and get a Kia, no matter how nice it is.
Um, hi! Ever heard of Infiniti and Lexus? Those brands play in European price points and do rather well. They could easily take market share from Infiniti and Lexus, especially considering how ugly, bland, and boring they are.
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Um, hi! Ever heard of Infiniti and Lexus? Those brands play in European price points and do rather well. They could easily take market share from Infiniti and Lexus, especially considering how ugly, bland, and boring they are.
Um, Kia ain't no Lexus. People looking at BMW and such definitely might cross-shop Lexus, but don't even bring the argue to the table that Kia is in the same league as Lexus at this point. Not in at the same table, not in the same conversation.
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Um, Kia ain't no Lexus. People looking at BMW and such definitely might cross-shop Lexus, but don't even bring the argue to the table that Kia is in the same league as Lexus at this point. Not in at the same table, not in the same conversation.
The Stinger definitely is in certain Lexus territory. Go drive one, then Go drive an is250/350 or similar Lexus. Pile of ****.
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Would make a great long lasting Cop Car really
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The Stinger definitely is in certain Lexus territory. Go drive one, then Go drive an is250/350 or similar Lexus. Pile of ****.
I'd happily own a Stinger just to get away from the sea of IS2XX/IS3XX around here .
I only see one annoying thing with Stinger GT, so far.
Getting the $200 LSD in the RWD configuration requires the $2K suit of active safety features.
But, in KIA's defense, they at least offer a way to get a rear LSD from the factory.
Some manufacturers don't even bother with that.
I'm hoping KIA does well with this car and that it will stick around as a result.
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I'd happily own a Stinger just to get away from the sea of IS2XX/IS3XX around here .
I only see one annoying thing with Stinger GT, so far.
Getting the $200 LSD in the RWD configuration requires the $2K suit of active safety features.
But, in KIA's defense, they at least offer a way to get a rear LSD from the factory.
Some manufacturers don't even bother with that.
I'm hoping KIA does well with this car and that it will stick around as a result.
And are/were you previously looking at purchasing a new BMW or Mercedes and were swayed by the Stinger? Or are you an enthusiast who likes the car?

My point in the matter is not that the Stinger is a bad car, I myself like it and would probably buy one, certainly over a similarly priced BMW...it is that the general public who just want a certain type of car which BMW and/or Mercedes/Audi tend to make, are not so often or currently ready to head on down to the Kia dealership to spend either their time or money on the brand, not yet. The general public still attach a certain air or weight to the three German brands that Kia most certainly has not achieved as of yet(which is to no way say they are not making huge strides, do not make good products, or will not get there in time).
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And are/were you previously looking at purchasing a new BMW or Mercedes and were swayed by the Stinger? Or are you an enthusiast who likes the car?

My point in the matter is not that the Stinger is a bad car, I myself like it and would probably buy one, certainly over a similarly priced BMW...it is that the general public who just want a certain type of car which BMW and/or Mercedes/Audi tend to make, are not so often or currently ready to head on down to the Kia dealership to spend either their time or money on the brand, not yet. The general public still attach a certain air or weight to the three German brands that Kia most certainly has not achieved as of yet(which is to no way say they are not making huge strides, do not make good products, or will not get there in time).
I'm simply an enthusiast who likes the car.
I agree with you about the badge. Most people who are into BMW/Mercedes/Audi, regardless of the reasons why, are unlikely to put KIA on their list.
But, then again, when Mercedes is asking close to $53K for a 240-hp turbo E-class, maybe a Stinger is not too far fetched even if there's a KIA badge (and possibly a stigma) attached to it.
At any rate, KIA just need some people to buy Stinger; these people don't need to be conquests from the usual luxury brands.
Hopefully, these people will see Stinger for what it is: a decently practical family car for daddies or mummies who really enjoy a good driver's car.
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Kia Stinger sworn in as Queensland police patrol car
Sam CharlwoodJuly 06, 2018

The Queensland police force has signed off on Kia’s Stinger as its official new highway patrol car.

Fifty twin-turbocharged V6 Stingers will begin replacing locally-built versions of the Holden Commodore and Ford Falcon from this week, charged with everything from speed monitoring to pursuits and being the first on scene at accidents.

The Stinger, which produces a credible 272kW and offers performance features including launch control, got the nod after an extensive decision making process.

Whereas other states including Victoria and NSW have opted for European weaponry or American V8s, the Stinger won the final vote in Queensland after testing that included a track evaluation.

“It was not a big step at all once we had begun the investigation process,” said Queensland police minister Mark Ryan.

“Reading what the experts had to say and seeing how efficiently the Stinger was changing minds and perceptions once people had been exposed to it … it was not a difficult decision.

“You often hear police ministers talking about providing the best equipment for those at the coal face. In this case I truly believe we have been able to do that.”

To regular buyers, the V6-powered 330S Stinger starts from $48,990 and comes with a seven-year warranty and seven-year capped-price servicing. However, a considerable fleet discount would apply to the Queensland police, which ultimately intends on deploying 200 Stingers across its road network.

“The final overall evaluation and review included the very important aspect of maintenance and cost. The Stinger performed very well in all areas and we had nothing but top reports from all the field officers,” said assistant commissioner Mike Keating.

“The result is a road policing first for us, the first foreign car to perform these duties.”

Kia Motors Australia chief executive Damien Meredith described the outcome as a “watershed moment” for the marque in Australia.

“This level of public exposure and endorsement from a high profile government utility is something which wouldn’t have been on the radar just a few years ago,” said Meredith. “It is just a beginning, but a very important one for us.”

Along with the Stinger, BMW 5 Series and Chrysler 300 SRT, state forces have begun employing foreign general duties vehicles including the Kia Sorento, Hyundai Santa Fe and Toyota Camry.



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As a BMW owner, I'm strongly considering this and the Genesis g70.
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Sam CharlwoodJuly 06, 2018

The Queensland police force has signed off on Kia’s Stinger as its official new highway patrol car.

Fifty twin-turbocharged V6 Stingers will begin replacing locally-built versions of the Holden Commodore and Ford Falcon from this week, charged with everything from speed monitoring to pursuits and being the first on scene at accidents.

The Stinger, which produces a credible 272kW and offers performance features including launch control, got the nod after an extensive decision making process.

Whereas other states including Victoria and NSW have opted for European weaponry or American V8s, the Stinger won the final vote in Queensland after testing that included a track evaluation.

“It was not a big step at all once we had begun the investigation process,” said Queensland police minister Mark Ryan.

“Reading what the experts had to say and seeing how efficiently the Stinger was changing minds and perceptions once people had been exposed to it … it was not a difficult decision.

“You often hear police ministers talking about providing the best equipment for those at the coal face. In this case I truly believe we have been able to do that.”

To regular buyers, the V6-powered 330S Stinger starts from $48,990 and comes with a seven-year warranty and seven-year capped-price servicing. However, a considerable fleet discount would apply to the Queensland police, which ultimately intends on deploying 200 Stingers across its road network.

“The final overall evaluation and review included the very important aspect of maintenance and cost. The Stinger performed very well in all areas and we had nothing but top reports from all the field officers,” said assistant commissioner Mike Keating.

“The result is a road policing first for us, the first foreign car to perform these duties.”

Kia Motors Australia chief executive Damien Meredith described the outcome as a “watershed moment” for the marque in Australia.

“This level of public exposure and endorsement from a high profile government utility is something which wouldn’t have been on the radar just a few years ago,” said Meredith. “It is just a beginning, but a very important one for us.”

Along with the Stinger, BMW 5 Series and Chrysler 300 SRT, state forces have begun employing foreign general duties vehicles including the Kia Sorento, Hyundai Santa Fe and Toyota Camry.



Good for Kia to get their vehicles out there like this.

Still waiting for the stinger/g70 to have a manual with the hotter motor, rwd & LSD. I know the G70 will have a stick with the turbo-4, but 255hp+/- and 3600+/- lbs isn't going to do it for me, having driven the ATS with 20 more hp, and 200lbs less curb and I found it wanting.
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It seems Kia/Hyundai are going the route that Subaru followed - only putting the manual in the low-power models (aside from WRX & STI). I wish they'd reconsider.
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having driven a Stinger GT1 I can tell you the Germans better watch their back.. Easily one of the best sounding V6's I have ever heard. It is not just peppy or nimble, it is damned fast. The way that car picks up speed is very Germanic, only with some Kia flair.

The car do so many things that let the driver decide how he wants it, and all those things are STANDARD. The doors feel nice, the steering is nicely weighted. All the controls feel good. Materials are mostly soft.

If this is what Kia can do on its first 'at bat', then the Germans and Japanese better just get in the right lane, and let faster traffic through.

KIA has already stated a hotter version is coming.
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having driven a Stinger GT1 I can tell you the Germans better watch their back.. Easily one of the best sounding V6's I have ever heard. It is not just peppy or nimble, it is damned fast. The way that car picks up speed is very Germanic, only with some Kia flair.

The car do so many things that let the driver decide how he wants it, and all those things are STANDARD. The doors feel nice, the steering is nicely weighted. All the controls feel good. Materials are mostly soft.

If this is what Kia can do on its first 'at bat', then the Germans and Japanese better just get in the right lane, and let faster traffic through.

KIA has already stated a hotter version is coming.
Agreed. I think the only thing that Kia needs to do is rebadge the emblem. A good looking badge does improve brand recognition and could really relaunch the brand.
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Agreed. I think the only thing that Kia needs to do is rebadge the emblem. A good looking badge does improve brand recognition and could really relaunch the brand.
My one biggest gripe about the Stinger GT is the giant "KIA" on the steering wheel. Replace that with a cooler logo and the car will instantly look heaps better. They can still brand it a Kia for all I care, but at least give it a unique, model-specific logo.
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Agreed. I think the only thing that Kia needs to do is rebadge the emblem. A good looking badge does improve brand recognition and could really relaunch the brand.
Agreed. They need to evolve the badge to truly evolve the brand/company and their image going forward. It is a simple statement, but simple statements sometimes resonate the most/best.
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A manual and the 5.0L would be a riot.

That V8 is a nice motor, really linear power and has lots of power everywhere.
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do you combine the sales of A3/A4/A5 and consider it one homogamous vehicle to give audi such lofty status? because Q50 & TLX (and formerly IS) have each outsold the A4 in the entry luxury sedan class for the past decade, or perhaps the buyers of those vehicles are members of a non-general buying public?
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