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Old 01-10-2018, 06:32 PM   #26
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At this point, I feel that Audi is more capable of designing a WRX/STI than Subaru is. Subaru is trying way too hard, IMO. I'm not sure my opinion is the minority here or not, but I'd prefer Subaru look toward the RS3 than the Civic Type R for inspiration. Better yet, at their own past models.



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Old 01-10-2018, 06:34 PM   #27
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It's all in good fun.
Until I can afford my future 981 GTS, these Subarus will have to do.

But for me it's always been about performance and the chassis. Form follows function. As long as this thing can perform better than the current car, I don't really mind how it looks.
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Old 01-10-2018, 07:29 PM   #28
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That red Audi, to me, looks boring with cool head lights. The darker one does look cool. Maybe it's just the picture angles or something.

And to me, the previous WRX/STIs looks like Mr Potato Head to me. Just tack on a hood scoop, wing, ground effects onto an Impreza. The current design is my favorite and looks least like the Impreza(duh) than anything before it. Even now that the Impreza as moved to a similar look. Still less resemblance than any of the previous gens. Heck, I bought an Impreza with all kinds of body kit to look like an STI. Just a regular Impreza. You simply can't do that cheaply or easily now.
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Old 01-10-2018, 08:01 PM   #29
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Looks like an integrated rear sidemarker on the wing side pillar/post....interesting!
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Old 01-10-2018, 08:03 PM   #30
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I just assumed that was more red pinstripe.
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Old 01-10-2018, 08:53 PM   #31
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Here we go round the mulberry bush. Not much to get excited or upset about or to form much opinion on here, just an STI-ing and red-striping on the Viziv base, highlighting the platform, as said before. That said, look at what the immediate competition looks like....thats probably where theyll lean, I mean theyre in the business of selling the darn things, not pleasing forum boards. We dont represent THAT many dealer sales after all. A growing number yes, but still. I doubt anyone let alone Subaru will be as bold as Honda was with their adornments. The Focus isnt subtle either...
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Old 01-10-2018, 10:12 PM   #32
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Whatever this vehicle finally turns out to be im sure it will stay in Japan, like the Levorg. I personally did like the updated 2018 Sti with the 6pot brembos, 19s, 7" touchscreen, new front end,and Eyesight but some felt otherwise. I would guess that what we will see is an STI sporting a factory wide body (much like when the boring GE and GH got the GV and GR treatment) with maybe the Ascent 2.4+BB turbo. What i would like to see is a FMIC instead, keep the 18' addons and maybe throw a oil cooler option in the scoop or something
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Old 01-10-2018, 11:50 PM   #33
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Whatever this vehicle finally turns out to be im sure it will stay in Japan, like the Levorg. I personally did like the updated 2018 Sti with the 6pot brembos, 19s, 7" touchscreen, new front end,and Eyesight but some felt otherwise. I would guess that what we will see is an STI sporting a factory wide body (much like when the boring GE and GH got the GV and GR treatment) with maybe the Ascent 2.4+BB turbo. What i would like to see is a FMIC instead, keep the 18' addons and maybe throw a oil cooler option in the scoop or something


This is a design language concept. Not a vehicle reveal. Itís previewing the next generation WRX/STi. Itís not something that will stay in Japan.

The current STi is a wide body. It shares the same wheel width and offset as well as the same fender space as the 11-14 cars. The body is just less dramatic.
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Old 01-10-2018, 11:53 PM   #34
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At this point, I feel that Audi is more capable of designing a WRX/STI than Subaru is. Subaru is trying way too hard, IMO. I'm not sure my opinion is the minority here or not, but I'd prefer Subaru look toward the RS3 than the Civic Type R for inspiration. Better yet, at their own past models.
RS3 is a more subdued, upscale German car. STI is and always has been an overstyled vehicle. People just like to cling on to nostalgia.. especially 90s JDM cars.

Personally, I'd prefer my STI to stand out more, rather than look extremely similar to a base Impreza. Like how the RS3 doesn't look all that different from a typical A3 or S3. Different fascia and wheels and that's basically it.
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True, but it's kinda disappointing considering the current car is still not at all appealing to the eyes. The wide arches sunken wheels, giant mug, slab sided, mom jeans butt, tall greenhouse sedan profile still does't do it for me.
Yeah I find the current WRX and STI to be both homely. It just hasn't grown on me like the GV/GR which had a more organic shape. It's just not a very nice looking car with all the straight lines and angles that looked dated on arrival. As I said in my last post the new Impreza at least has smoother edges which should make is a little more pleasing to the eye but it's still not likely going to be a good looking car. I think the old EVO/STI formula of adding wings and scoops to a generic compact sedan is stale but I'm not sure what Subaru can do about that as the more they differentiate from the Impreza the more the price goes up and nobody will be happy about that. We will just have to wait and see what this car ends up looking like but I feel at the very least this new model should at the very least look better than the current one which is a positive in itself.
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This is a design language concept. Not a vehicle reveal. Itís previewing the nex

The current STi is a wide body. It shares the same wheel width and offset as well as the same fender space as the 11-14 cars. The body is just less dramatic.
yeah I'd like it if they would lower the headroom and put some aggression or style into the rear bumper. You'd have to redesign the seats ride height capabilities but my buddy threw in some FRS seats in his 15wrx and it actually feels pretty damn good.
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This is a design language concept. Not a vehicle reveal. Itís previewing the next generation WRX/STi. Itís not something that will stay in Japan.

The current STi is a wide body. It shares the same wheel width and offset as well as the same fender space as the 11-14 cars. The body is just less dramatic.
People don't seem to realize that when a car has cameras instead of rear door mirrors and no door handles that it means concept car. Meaning literally nothing on it is guaranteed to come to fruition other than maybe the general shape and style.
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Old 01-11-2018, 09:26 AM   #38
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People don't seem to realize that when a car has cameras instead of rear door mirrors and no door handles that it means concept car. Meaning literally nothing on it is guaranteed to come to fruition other than maybe the general shape and style.
Yep. It's more of a "Here's what we would really like to build."

Then ~6 months later it's "But here's what we have to build."
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Old 01-11-2018, 09:37 AM   #39
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I'm just looking forward to fender bulges again. The conservative styling of the last WRX/STI was a disappointment. I agree with the one comment -- slab sides, uneventful fenders, just not quirky like Subaru should be.
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Countdown until we see the production car in camo...

but it's crazy to think it's been 5 years since the WRX concept came out. Time sure flies, I am glad that the WRX/STI are still doing well.
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Countdown until we see the production car in camo...

but it's crazy to think it's been 5 years since the WRX concept came out. Time sure flies, I am glad that the WRX/STI are still doing well.
yes, wait for the camoed pre-production cars. If we are getting a hatch, we may see one in testing first. How a sedan drives, and how a hatch drives is slightly different. The aerodynamics and the suspension setup is different. Both versions must be tested on open roads and adjustments to the shocks are made accordingly
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This is a design language concept. Not a vehicle reveal. Itís previewing the next generation WRX/STi. Itís not something that will stay in Japan.

The current STi is a wide body. It shares the same wheel width and offset as well as the same fender space as the 11-14 cars. The body is just less dramatic.
Yes so much yes!! You actually understand the life cycle of a car model.

So many people on here expect Subaru to actually reproduce and market a concept car and then get butthurt that it doesn't come to pass. Then it's "You lied to us!! You showed us one car but you only used the outline of the headlights, grille, roof line, glass, wheel base, track, etc on the actual production car!!".

It's design language. That's it. It's the exact same process that it's been for decades now.
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yes, it is design lauguage, but what are we suppose to think when that language says 'Will Hoon for Food'
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Old 01-11-2018, 12:24 PM   #44
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The past several Subaru concepts I've really liked, but have been less than impressed with the production models.

On the positive side, to me, this "concept" looks absolutely hideous, which means I'll probably really like the production vehicle.
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yes, it is design lauguage, but what are we suppose to think when that language says 'Will Hoon for Food'
[Buford T Justice] That, was an attention-getter[/Buford T Justice]
Please dont hoon this thing out like a CTR. Let the aftermarket do the poor taste adornments. The base seems neutral and tame enough to take in any direction, but damn the bangles and baubles....

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The past several Subaru concepts I've really liked, but have been less than impressed with the production models.

On the positive side, to me, this "concept" looks absolutely hideous, which means I'll probably really like the production vehicle.
Agreed. At least we are learning how to read their concepts better now.
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LOL, that's awesome.

What's the predicted timeline for next gen WRX & STI release?
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Meh. Itís literally a Civic Type R. Lose the red and the odd fender flare things.
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Wow. I really like it. Full of attitude, quite the opposite for typical Subaru design.
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