Volkswagen Arteon (CC) teased before Geneva debut

[humpthebobcat]

Originally Posted by heavyD

Without a clutch glazing, drivetrain straining, hard launch an STI achieves achieves 5-60 mph in 6.6 seconds. So in your words the STI is a turd in real world driving conditions.

I agree, its a gigantic turd!

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[humpthebobcat]

Whatever you nazi sympathizer ...buy American and get a damn Taurus SHO, 3.5 liter twin turbo v6 with 100 more hp....you may not be old in years but you sure are in spirit...tell me, when did you die on the inside? Where is your wife hiding your balls? I'm just kidding btw, don't be so serious/german

Originally Posted by godfather2112

Dude, I'm 29. Unless your still asking your parents for permission to sleep over at a friends house, we're probably close to the same age.


Regarding "slow." You do realize this is a sedan that's designed to move people in comfort, with features and materials that are of higher quality, right? It's not a "performance" vehicle that is designed for the drag strip, track, or really anything that is spirited in nature. Someone would not cross shop this car with a wrx, focus rs, gti, etc. Maybe compare it to the accord, sonata, Malibu, legacy, etc. Also, the car isn't final. I'm willing to bet the car does 0-60 around the same
Time as the accord v6, maybe slightly slower.

You sort of need to get a grip on reality and realize where this car is positioned, target demographics, and competitors. If you can't figure that out then the discussion is pointless.

[godfather2112]

Originally Posted by humpthebobcat

Whatever you nazi sympathizer ...buy American and get a damn Taurus SHO, 3.5 liter twin turbo v6 with 100 more hp....you may not be old in years but you sure are in spirit...tell me, when did you die on the inside? Where is your wife hiding your balls? I'm just kidding btw, don't be so serious/german

I bought an f150 last month, does that count? Also, no wife. No wife, happy life. Lastly, I'm not dead inside. I just simply don't have interest in 4 cylinder turbo cars anymore. My interest have become more expensive and grown if we're looking at "fast" cars. With that said, give me something comfy, automatic, and decent acceleration for my daily driver.

[Skylab]

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[SCRAPPYDO]

comfortable competent hatch back that will do 5.4 to 60 if that matters to you. Loads of room and it will eat up miles like an anemic pac man.

That is a great car. Will definitely look into one when my audi lease is up.

[SVX WRX]

i'd prefer they put the display screen even lower ... maybe on the floor.

https://i.imgur.com/kxB4L2H.jpg

[AVANTI R5]

2019 Volkswagen Arteon dashes to the US with more space, more power



The stylish successor to the Volkwsagen CC arrived stateside Thursday at the 2018 Chicago Auto Show. The 2019 Volkswagen Arteon will go on sale in the fall and replace the CC that's aging quickly from VW lots.

The Arteon benefits from economy of scale, notably scalable architecture that underpins the Jetta, Golf, Atlas—even Audi's TT. The Arteon adds more than five inches between the wheels compared to the CC, and pushes its wheels closer to the corners for a sportier shape.

While identifiable as a Volkswagen, the Arteon strays from the CC's shape with angular details around the sides and a clamshell hood that wipes shunt lines from the hood, similar to the Audi A5 Sportback. The similarities with Audi's four-door coupe don't end there: the A5 and Arteon share nearly identical wheelbases (111.2 and 111.9 inches) and their overall mass should be nearly the same at more than 3,700 pounds in base configuration.

Under its hood is a standard 2.0-liter turbo-4 that spins out 268 horsepower, which is 34 percent more power than the outgoing CC, mated to an 8-speed standard automatic. Other versions sold around the world can be equipped with VW's 7-speed dual-clutch automatic, but the 8-speed in the U.S. speaks to the Arteon's efficiency mission (for now) and VW's stated intention to make the Arteon a grand tourer and not a performance fastback. Available all-wheel drive will undoubtedly help the Arteon carve a tighter line around corners, and standard adaptive dampers should make the most of its running gear. An R-based performance version may be in the works, but VW execs are staying quiet for now.

With more space between the wheels, the Arteon should be exponentially more comfortable than the CC, which lacked rear seat room—particularly head space. Volkswagen said the Arteon will be equipped with 18-inch wheels as standard, with 19-inchers available in top trims.

Inside, standard synthetic leather and dials give way to nappa hides and VW's digital instrument cluster in top trims. Volkswagen hasn't yet announced pricing for the Arteon in the U.S., but it's likely to start in the mid-$30,000s. For more coverage of the 2018 Chicago Auto Show, head to our dedicated hub.

https://www.motorauthority.com/news/...ace-more-power

[Skylab]

VOLKSWAGEN ARTEON IS FINALLY CLEARED FOR THE U.S.

The oft-delayed launch of the Volkswagen Arteon will soon be over. The big boss himself, Herbert Diess, chairman of the Volkswagen AG Board of Management, said the successor to the CC is coming to the U.S. this year, and that he is as anxious to get it to the market as anyone.

Scott Keogh, CEO and president of Volkswagen Group of America, narrowed it down further: by this summer. VW needs to launch the Jetta GLI first, which is happening now, and the Arteon will follow in a few months.


https://www.motortrend.com/news/volk...r-the-u-s/amp/

[Skylab]

^
I presume due to the emissions scandal fall out, all new models coming to the United States are going to have some kind of delay. I almost forgot all about this cool looking car. I was at the VW dealer today and realized they didn’t have any on the lot. Then saw this article.

[pazzoduc]

Hopefully it will come in colors that don't resemble baby poop in a diaper..... That yellow gold is well, baby poop color! (For those fatherless types out there that don't realize this and make the mistake of liking it!)

[oichan]

Originally Posted by pazzoduc

Hopefully it will come in colors that don't resemble baby poop in a diaper..... That yellow gold is well, baby poop color! (For those fatherless types out there that don't realize this and make the mistake of liking it!)

You mean Indian food color.. I love Indian food and that color ruined it for me for a while for Indian food..LOL

[SubaDuba420]

Pricing & models coming:

https://www.autoblog.com/2019/03/28/...#slide-7550511

Volkswagen just announced pricing for its long-awaited (and delayed) Arteon. Originally pegged for an on-sale date in mid-2018, Volkswagen says the liftback sedan is finally going to hit dealers in April. The starting price is $36,840 for the base SE front-wheel drive model and $38,640 for the all-wheel drive version after the $995 destination fee.

Attractive styling and upmarket features are the main selling points for VW's newest sedan. It was supposed to replace the swoopy CC promptly, but that plan went out the window when the CC was discontinued after the 2017 model year and the Arteon was still nowhere in sight. The Arteon has been on sale in Germany since 2017, so the car in its current form is already a couple years old. Other markets get a choice of engines, but U.S.-bound Arteons will all be powered by VW's venerable 2.0-liter turbocharged four-cylinder. It's not short on power, pumping out 268 horses and 258 pound-feet of twist in this tune. Volkswagen pairs the engine to an eight-speed automatic transmission.

Fuel economy numbers have popped up recently, and the front-wheel drive model is rated at 22 mpg city, 31 mpg highway and 25 mpg combined. The 4Motion all-wheel drive model dips down to 20/27/23 (city/highway/combined) mpg ratings.

VW plans to offer the Arteon in three trim levels: SE, SEL and SEL Premium. All-wheel drive is available on every trim. The SEL starts at $40,990, which adds features like LED headlights, a panoramic sunroof, Nappa leather seats, ambient lighting, VW's Digital Cockpit instrument cluster and adaptive cruise control. Step up to the SEL Premium and you get 19-inch wheels, a heated steering wheel, massaging driver's seat and Dynaudio premium sound among other niceties. If you want a sportier appearance, the R-Line package is available with 19-inch wheels for $1,265, or with 20-inch wheels for $1,765.

[4S-TURBO]

I averaged nearly 30 mpg on a 1300 mile road trip this week in my loaded up 4Motion 3 row Tiguan. Lots of mountain passes. I***8217;m fairly confident this thing would easily best my numbers even with the higher state of tune. Both have the 8AT.

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[dwf137]

The one he tested was 47K...

That's pretty pricey especially for the power output. They should have put the full Golf R engine/tune in this thing, it'll need it with the extra weight.

[4S-TURBO]

Originally Posted by dwf137

The one he tested was 47K...

That's pretty pricey especially for the power output. They should have put the full Golf R engine/tune in this thing, it'll need it with the extra weight.

Yeah I agree that price with all the crap added on is a tough sell in a shrinking non premium brand segment. I suppose they’re looking at Kia Stinger 2.0T AWD as a close comparable and offering more power and tech.

[dwf137]

Originally Posted by 4S-TURBO

Yeah I agree that price with all the crap added on is a tough sell in a shrinking non premium brand segment. I suppose they***8217;re looking at Kia Stinger 2.0T AWD as a close comparable and offering more power and tech.

Yeah, but I think Kia has a steeper hill to climb to sell a car in that market than VW does... While I think the average consumer thinks of VW as only Jettas and Golfs, there are a good number out there who have experienced cars on the level of the loaded VW's like R, CC/Arteon, Tourareg, etc. and how they're basically just discounted Audi's. Usually it takes a chance experience to really get it though, because the base models are pretty ho-hum. It's a small market, but the CC always has been. At their peak (2011) they only sold 29K. Makes the Legacy looks like it sells like hotcakes... Honestly, it's pretty cool that VW still brings over low volume cars.

[VarmintCong]

Originally Posted by dwf137

Yeah, but I think Kia has a steeper hill to climb to sell a car in that market than VW does... While I think the average consumer thinks of VW as only Jettas and Golfs, there are a good number out there who have experienced cars on the level of the loaded VW's like R, CC/Arteon, Tourareg, etc. and how they're basically just discounted Audi's. Usually it takes a chance experience to really get it though, because the base models are pretty ho-hum. It's a small market, but the CC always has been. At their peak (2011) they only sold 29K. Makes the Legacy looks like it sells like hotcakes... Honestly, it's pretty cool that VW still brings over low volume cars.

I think you're not thinking like the average 5 series or A6 buyer. They don't want a cheaper version, any more than they want a cheap version of a Fendi handbag. They want exclusivity, not a good deal.

So they have no interest in a $40k VW version of their $50k luxury car.

VW should offer something different, not just a cheaper A6 sedan. Make it a hatchback, wagon, or even a lifted Outback competitor. The Alltrack is a bit small for a lot of buyers, sell a bigger Alltrack.

[AVANTI R5]

DRIVEN + VIDEO: Does The Volkswagen Arteon Show That VW Has Got Its Groove Back?

One vehicle I've been curious about has finally gotten into reviewer's hands.

Called the Arteon, this is Volkswagen's successor to the Passat CC, which was known simply as the CC towards the end of its life. The CC was a brilliant vehicle that felt more like an Audi and boasted some rich touches. Personally, if I was in the market I probably would have skipped the A4 and just taken home one of those.

But, we've got to wonder if VW has the same magic as it used to. Frankly, its vehicles haven't been quite the same in years. The engines are meh and the interiors have become super cheap.

So, does VW have its groove back? Let's see in Roadshow's quick review, below.



Volkswagens's 2019 Arteon blends the flowing proportions of the now-discontinued VW CC with the sportback design of Audi's A7. The result is a handsome new flagship with a stylish flair of its own.

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[dwf137]

Originally Posted by VarmintCong

I think you're not thinking like the average 5 series or A6 buyer. They don't want a cheaper version, any more than they want a cheap version of a Fendi handbag. They want exclusivity, not a good deal.

So they have no interest in a $40k VW version of their $50k luxury car.

VW should offer something different, not just a cheaper A6 sedan. Make it a hatchback, wagon, or even a lifted Outback competitor. The Alltrack is a bit small for a lot of buyers, sell a bigger Alltrack.

I don't see the Arteon as a "downgrade" for Audi customers, but rather a "cheaper upgrade" for customers coming from more pedestrian brands. Some middle-aged guy who wants to step up from his Accord, but can't quite jump into an A5...

I mean, VW already makes it. They didn't design it for the US market. They're just bringing it here, and are fully aware that it's not going to sell like hotcakes because of previous sales. Again, I think it's pretty cool that VW brings over lower volume cars instead of trying to create uniformity in their lineup. I'd still like to see the R Variant make it over here though...

[VarmintCong]

Originally Posted by dwf137

I don't see the Arteon as a "downgrade" for Audi customers, but rather a "cheaper upgrade" for customers coming from more pedestrian brands. Some middle-aged guy who wants to step up from his Accord, but can't quite jump into an A5...

I mean, VW already makes it. They didn't design it for the US market. They're just bringing it here, and are fully aware that it's not going to sell like hotcakes because of previous sales. Again, I think it's pretty cool that VW brings over lower volume cars instead of trying to create uniformity in their lineup. I'd still like to see the R Variant make it over here though...

Yeah, I agree with that.

[4S-TURBO]

Just give me a 4MOTION GLI for low 30s already. Perfect fit in the lineup with the Arteon being the flagship progression up.

[ptclaus98]

4Motion and with a 3.2 VR6 and I still probably wouldn't buy one, but I would lust. I would lust...

[AVANTI R5]

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2019 Volkswagen Arteon Quick Drive | Consumer Reports - YouTube

2019 Volkswagen Arteon Quick Drive | Consumer Reports - YouTube

[KC]

Already $6k-$7k off MSRP before even haggling for the AWD SEL RLine and AWD SEL Premium RLine

--kC