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02-18-2011, 12:28 PM | #76 | |
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02-18-2011, 12:52 PM | #77 | ||
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02-18-2011, 04:14 PM | #78 |
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Something to drool on over the weekend....
EFR Turbo Technical Brief Here is a very in depth article about the EFR turbos and how they came to be. This article is what really got me going on these turbos. Never before has turbo company done this kind of public documentation. Click Here to Download EFR Turbo Technical breif.pdf |
02-18-2011, 07:40 PM | #79 | |
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I am very much looking forward to seeing how this turbo responds as it's on the short list for my new engine setup. |
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02-18-2011, 07:55 PM | #80 |
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You know, if i started with the Hardcore, there would be nothing to look forward to. Everything else would just be be like watching Cinemax after 10pm...Boring....
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02-18-2011, 09:19 PM | #81 |
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02-18-2011, 09:28 PM | #82 |
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Time to bust out the hammer!
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02-18-2011, 10:15 PM | #83 |
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I think there's going to be a lot of stunned people when it all plays out.
I'm glad you are doing this... i really hope this makes a few other shops post up there results |
02-18-2011, 11:38 PM | #84 |
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i just read a ton of the technical brief. mostly the stuff that applied to me or that i was interested in. all i can say is wow. tons of good info to help settle concerns about the product. even made me imagine how fun a small 6758 would be on the street
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02-18-2011, 11:45 PM | #85 |
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wow after going through all 125 pages i really like what they have to say, and i like why they decided on the parts they did, one thing it has me thinking about it will they be rebuildable, if you look at the picture of the bearing cartridge, its help on with a C clip, which to me makes it look like it would be replaceable, if so i think that would almost make this a deal over other non rebuildable, it would be cheaper to fix, and the resale valve would be more knowing if something wrong when you buy it used you can just replace the parts it needs instead of a whole CHRA
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02-19-2011, 12:29 AM | #86 |
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as true as that may be the design looks as though it wouldn't need rebuilding....ever
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02-19-2011, 12:51 AM | #87 |
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A rebuildable CHRA is definitely promising, but remember that you can get a 30r CHRA swapped out for $450. Just to be fair
Also to be fair, Mr. Perrin has not done really released any info that Full Race has not. Both Perrin and Full Race have taken pics, released specs, and discussed these turbos with us. I appreciate all the time that both companies have put into answering our questions on these turbos. So, with all due respect, get over it. I agree with waynoSTI. Fitment is not going to be as tough as everyone thinks. It will take a little work and creativity sure. But looking at my current rotated 30r kit, there is a ton of room for this turbo. The uppipe will just have to be a little further from the heads...BFD. Considering Jeff's opinion that the EFR can be mounted safely at a greater angle... Hey Bariga, don't you already have a Full Race EFR kit minus the turbo? Mock that sucker up and take some pics!! |
02-19-2011, 02:10 AM | #88 |
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^ i will, as soon as i get my engine back from the shop,,, my car started to smell like beer and dro in my stinky garage
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02-21-2011, 07:29 AM | #89 |
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Ok you have had a weekend to fabricate, out with the results
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02-21-2011, 10:41 AM | #90 | |
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I too think fitement will be possible but will obviously require redesign of the uppipe, downpipe, inlet and chargepipe. So if Jeff can make a kit that only changes those 4 parts from his existing kits, then it won't be so bad. The inlet may even carry over...so possibly 3 parts. Brake bias block might need a bit of movement, like on a GC. |
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Saturday i had to finish suadeing my dash (last weekends project), Sunday i spent the day taking the GTX35R off my car for a customer, then spent the rest of the day taking apart our 11 STI and doing a lot of planning. In a few days i should have it all setup and ready to run. The GT turbos are much easier to fit than this thing is! |
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02-21-2011, 01:12 PM | #92 |
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I have no issue with you Jeff. I give props to anyone who will step up and be one of the first to try a new technology. There are just some impatient people out there. People are frustrated that FR is not bending over backwards (or possibly violated BW's tech privacy rules?) to prove this new tech that is not even officially released yet in the case of TS. But I will try not to clutter your thread anymore
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02-21-2011, 01:14 PM | #93 |
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cant wait to see some numbers
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02-21-2011, 01:37 PM | #94 |
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^^^that's also the TS turbo which IIRC has a shorter total length, all of which is on the turbine outlet. side. Then also picture having the TGV's and manifold on there...look at the compressor's outlet location. Compressore outlet looks to be right inline with the the runner of #3.
Does anyone know how much angle the Borg EFR's are allowed to tilt?...well recommend angle to not exceed |
02-21-2011, 01:41 PM | #95 |
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Ok so I'm about a 1/3 of the way through the big EFR technical document. What I will say so far is that the level of detail provided here has mollified my skepticism toward this product. The document gives an honest and balanced assessment of their engineering challenges and choices. They acknowledge when they borrow existing designs and adapt them, instead of trying to convince people that they reinvented the wheel.
I no longer feel like I'm being manipulated with "turbo of the month" marketing hype. |
02-21-2011, 02:02 PM | #96 | |
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02-21-2011, 02:59 PM | #97 |
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Also 7670 and 8374 have same foot print, so you can swap them easy.
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02-21-2011, 03:14 PM | #98 |
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All I could find in the EFR tech document was a reference to the allowable angle for the oil inlet/outlet. Nothing on front to back allowable angles.
I agree that the pics Bariga posted show some fitment concerns with the current/old FR uppipe, but with some minor modification and compressor housing clocking it should not be too difficult to get proper fitment. Things that I am sure they have already done. |
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So is the 7670 supposed to be 'comparible' to the 30r and the 8374 to the 35r?
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