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05-29-2009, 01:54 PM | #4151 | |
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The only nagging issue I had with the tmic was heatsoak...unless you ran meth, you were going to heatsoak in any hot climate. That tmic would get real hot, quick after sitting at a light. Now going with a fmic, I don't have any more issues with heatsoak....now my nagging issues are increased lag and boost leak paranoia. LOL. It's a trade off...but that's with any fmic kit. But I have to disagree that the ssac fmic is not garbage. At least, not completely . It works great for the price and perfect for the budget engine builder. It's not mechanical so why not skimp a little on this item to instead get that quality turbo, coilover, injectors, pistons, etc. that is actually mechanical. All it is, is piping and a core. So as long as it cools the charge somewhat, stays un-heatsoaked, and keeps the pressure within the pipes, I don't see why it's garbage.
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07-04-2009, 12:47 PM | #4152 |
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anyone running this with a stock td04?
I'm planning on upgrading turbo next year. |
07-16-2009, 07:34 PM | #4153 |
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I've had an XS Power/ SSAC FMIC kit for about 2 1/2 years and its worked great..at my current power level with an 18G but now its time to upgrade to a v7 ej207 and a 35r so im looking at options to replace just the core. I have a these 2 in mind;
-Hyperflow 9"x29"x3.7" -TurboXS 9.5"x29.5"x3.5" Anyone else have any others that will fit on the SSAC bumperbeam and the piping? |
07-16-2009, 09:13 PM | #4154 |
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can you get those cores from the manufacturer without buying the whole kit? I tried contacting TXS and no luck.
I found a Treadstone Core that would most likely fit as well as a Spearco core... Treadstone: http://www.treadstoneperformance.com...10+Intercooler Spearco: (need 2 reducer couplers)http://www.turboneticsinc.com/produc...&category_id=9 |
07-16-2009, 11:12 PM | #4155 | |
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This kit is great value and has been used on a number of 400+whp cars now, and apart from a few fitment issues on various models (which are easy enough to fix) and the need to use the SSAC intercooler mount/support bar or cut your bumper beam, all is good. If you want to increase cooling efficency, buy a $25 hobbs switch to activate a water spray that sprays the core whenever you pass a specific boost threshold Unless you are going to spend top dollar on a custom FMIC kit with a high flowing bar and plate core that is highly efficent, then I wouldn't bother as the performance benefits of going to another cheap core will be marginal at best. Leslie. |
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07-17-2009, 12:44 PM | #4156 |
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Wait until you get you get a bigger turbo^. I run a fp20g with an ssac fmic.Works good. Boost kicks in @3700rpms. People spend good money on big turbos, so why not protect your investment with a fmic? Tmic's=heat soak.Last i checked this is bad for the turbo correct? The key to all this is a good tune by a good tuner.
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07-17-2009, 04:58 PM | #4157 | |
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I guess I could get an intercooler sprayer as a band-aid to make up for cooling efficiency, but thats not what I want. |
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07-17-2009, 06:50 PM | #4158 |
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Get Meth that is what I plan on doing...if it doesn't hold up then well, I'll source a core.
I'm at 355/362 with a 30R .63 a/r on a Mustang Dyno....hoping to break 400 with meth. |
07-17-2009, 07:02 PM | #4159 |
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Meth will be part of my setup...and maybe E85
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07-18-2009, 08:07 AM | #4160 | |||
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I'm not saying more fins is a bad thing, as it could increase cooling efficieny and possibly allow you to run more boost safely - but rather the higher the fin density the higher the pressure drop is across the core. Also, even if I did get a turbo xs core, I don't see it is being able to increase my whp as you suggest if boost remains the same Quote:
I only suggested a water spray as a cheaper alternative to a full custom intercooler using a top quality bar and plate core, not as something that is required if you buy the SSAC fmic kit. Leslie |
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07-18-2009, 01:50 PM | #4161 |
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I just don't think people can get over the fact that ssac works great and is hella cheap.My main issue with this product is that i had to spend a lil extra to get the pipes to fit right.And I had a heavy duty bracket made, because the one it came with is a flimsy peice of ***t.
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07-18-2009, 09:54 PM | #4162 |
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Yeah, if the manufacturer isn't plastered all over their fav JDM suby or found as a decal in Forza or Need for Speed, then it must be crap .
It has been pointed out all through this thread that there can be a few fitment issues between models, but the kit is cheap and the fitment issues are nothing a home handyman couldn't sort out. |
07-20-2009, 05:42 AM | #4163 |
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Has anybody heard of any for sale, been trying to get the "nasioc special" for a while now.
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07-20-2009, 07:36 AM | #4164 |
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without looking at this entire thread . can anyone give opinion of fit on a 07 wrx ? also what is the nasioc price ? thanks
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07-21-2009, 06:19 PM | #4165 |
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any of these available anywhere?
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07-21-2009, 06:54 PM | #4166 |
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there is a huge wait on these. Just look a few pages back and there is contact info for who in the company to order with.
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07-21-2009, 10:17 PM | #4167 |
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I have helped install a few and there were minor fitment issues. They did however work. Call me a brand whore if you like but I still wouldn't run one my car.
I can say a lot of the locals have ebay parts, and usually more "parts" than me, yet I always seem to be faster..... hmmmmm. Thats not to say you couldn't use pipe work, downpipes etc. I just dont trust anything more complicated than bending some pipe to the knock off shops. IC cores & turbos? No F'in way. As always YMMV. |
07-22-2009, 12:21 PM | #4168 |
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09-13-2009, 01:44 PM | #4169 |
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what sort of power are people making with this kit? anyone in the 350 range?
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09-14-2009, 01:10 AM | #4170 |
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Using one of the cheap big ass FMIC.
Using this K probe device.... Ambiant temp was 82 degrees @ 9pm...... Cruising the pre IC temp is about 95ish, post is 85ish.... Get on the loud pedal..... 100, 110,120,130,140,150,160,180,------ At 4500 rpm the temp goes over 200 and I forgot to set it to read higher. But Post IC? Highest was about 95. Thank goodness for the intercooler!!!!!! I drove around today with just 1 probe in the INLET to the turbo. Just the air entering the turbo was 150 degrees or warmer!!!!! If I would get off boost and the BOV would vent, then the temp would bump up to 170ish from the burst of air out of the turbo.... I really really want to reroute my IC pipes so I can get the cone filter OUT of the engine bay and into the fenderwell!!!!! At the track tonight I compared the two. Hotside of turbo = 370 f!!!!!!!!!!!! Throttle body = 96!!!!!! Later I was hiting much higher temps coming out of the turbo, like 400-500f! But post IC was just 110 or so.... |
09-14-2009, 10:05 AM | #4171 |
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09-21-2009, 08:24 AM | #4172 |
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I'm buying a used kit. Are all the ic pipes and required couplers show here?
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09-21-2009, 10:21 AM | #4173 |
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That doesn't look like SSAC piping mate.
If it is, then it has been cut in a few places, so I'd make sure those places where it has been cut have had the lip rolled again. Also, not one of my piping pieces had a weld on it, they were all bent to the shape required and had couplers for joining - I notice that one of the pipes in the pick has been cut and rewelded! Leslie |
09-21-2009, 04:06 PM | #4174 |
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correct me if I am wrong, but it looks like it was redone to do a counter clockwise flow.... notice the sharp bend at the bottom of the one pipe with the sharp radium coupler... looks like the reverse style of the slow boy racing FMIC.... but yeah... it is not stock SSAC, pipes.
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09-21-2009, 08:34 PM | #4175 |
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Possible, but I still doubt it is an SSAC fmic kit.
The SSAC piping can be installed for clockwise and counter clockwise flow without the need to cut any pipe - it is a simple as disconnecting the the pipe piece that connects to the throttle body at the throttle body coupler end and moving/twisting it to the turbo comp outlet coupler and then moving/twisting the pipe that connected to the turbo comp outlet coupler over to the throttle body coupler. I still think it is a different piping kit. Leslie |
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