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Old 07-20-2017, 11:35 AM   #726
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Is anyone able to take a look at my log for me? Apologies in advance if I didn't do it correctly. I zoomed in on the relevant part of it.

WOT from 3rd going uphill, AC off, looks mostly okay except I seem to have -1.41 FKL for about a second. I also don't seem to be holding target boost but I wonder if going uphill/elevation has something to do with it. Car is stock other than Cobb catback.

This is just the way that I take to work and it so happens there's a long stretch, so it was the most convenient place for me to log. I'll try to take another log on the freeway or something where it's completely flat.

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Is anyone able to take a look at my log for me? Apologies in advance if I didn't do it correctly. I zoomed in on the relevant part of it.

WOT from 3rd going uphill, AC off, looks mostly okay except I seem to have -1.41 FKL for about a second. I also don't seem to be holding target boost but I wonder if going uphill/elevation has something to do with it. Car is stock other than Cobb catback.

This is just the way that I take to work and it so happens there's a long stretch, so it was the most convenient place for me to log. I'll try to take another log on the freeway or something where it's completely flat.

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What gas are you using ? I have switched gas stations and haven't experienced FKL whatsoever. Another thing, make sure you have the latest OEM reflash. There is a new file out to prevent knock. Have it updated and reinstall AP and the tune. The boost will always taper down and while the tune calls for a good amount of boost at high RPM the turbo will naturally taper down.
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Old 09-01-2017, 12:45 AM   #729
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What gas are you using ? I have switched gas stations and haven't experienced FKL whatsoever. Another thing, make sure you have the latest OEM reflash. There is a new file out to prevent knock. Have it updated and reinstall AP and the tune. The boost will always taper down and while the tune calls for a good amount of boost at high RPM the turbo will naturally taper down.
Chevron. Only have 91 here in California.

So I have a new problem now.

I've been using the MAP Stage 1 91 octane tune for almost a month now and it's been consistently awesome up until lately. From the day I flashed it until yesterday my DAM never dropped below 1, I saw mild knock during normal driving here and there (usually only 1 or 2 degrees) but nothing too major.

Yesterday I drove from Anaheim up to LA with my girlfriend to spend the day around town (about a 40 minute drive or so). All readings were normal for the whole entire drive. Once we got into town we had a lot of places/stops to go to so I kept my AP in the glovebox the entire day and didn't monitor at all until the drive home. Spent about 9 hours there and drove home around 10:30 PM. During the drive home I noticed my DAM dropped down to 0.812. I was also getting FKC that wouldn't learn out.

My understanding on knock readings is pretty basic but from when I understand, when the ECU detects knock it will typically "learn" those values away back to 0, in increments of 0.35. Usually if I get any knock readings on the AP, if I hold the throttle position steady at that speed/RPM the readings will gradually 0 themselves out. In this case the ECU wasn't learning away any of the readings whatsoever and they just stuck.

I thought maybe it was a fluke, so I went to bed hoping the problem would go away. This morning I woke up and had to run to the mall and immediately when I started the car the DAM was reading 0.812 and the same behavior kept happening. I decided to flash to the Cobb Stage 1 tune to see if it was any better.

Drove around all day today on the Cobb tune and DAM stayed at 1 until just about 20 minutes ago, when I was driving home from getting food, and it dropped to 0.812 again and I was starting to get higher knock readings.

I'm wondering if my gas or the ambient temps could be the reason why I'm seeing this. I always fill with Chevron 91. Unfortunately 91 is the best we have in California, and even then our 91 is worse than the rest of the country's. Cobb has a map just for ACN (Arizona-California-Nevada) gas because of how bad it is. And, from what I understand, gas quality is typically worse during the summer than it is during the rest of the year.

SoCal is also in the middle of a huge heat wave right now and it's been 100+ degrees for the past few days. I know these cars are prone to heat soak and given that I have the stock intercooler still, I wonder if the extremely high temps could be the reason for the DAM drop/knock readings.

As of right now I'm a little scared to drive my car until I can figure out exactly what's going on. Any insight would be much appreciated!
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Old 09-01-2017, 05:38 AM   #730
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Chevron. Only have 91 here in California.

So I have a new problem now.

I've been using the MAP Stage 1 91 octane tune for almost a month now and it's been consistently awesome up until lately. From the day I flashed it until yesterday my DAM never dropped below 1, I saw mild knock during normal driving here and there (usually only 1 or 2 degrees) but nothing too major.

Yesterday I drove from Anaheim up to LA with my girlfriend to spend the day around town (about a 40 minute drive or so). All readings were normal for the whole entire drive. Once we got into town we had a lot of places/stops to go to so I kept my AP in the glovebox the entire day and didn't monitor at all until the drive home. Spent about 9 hours there and drove home around 10:30 PM. During the drive home I noticed my DAM dropped down to 0.812. I was also getting FKC that wouldn't learn out.

My understanding on knock readings is pretty basic but from when I understand, when the ECU detects knock it will typically "learn" those values away back to 0, in increments of 0.35. Usually if I get any knock readings on the AP, if I hold the throttle position steady at that speed/RPM the readings will gradually 0 themselves out. In this case the ECU wasn't learning away any of the readings whatsoever and they just stuck.

I thought maybe it was a fluke, so I went to bed hoping the problem would go away. This morning I woke up and had to run to the mall and immediately when I started the car the DAM was reading 0.812 and the same behavior kept happening. I decided to flash to the Cobb Stage 1 tune to see if it was any better.

Drove around all day today on the Cobb tune and DAM stayed at 1 until just about 20 minutes ago, when I was driving home from getting food, and it dropped to 0.812 again and I was starting to get higher knock readings.

I'm wondering if my gas or the ambient temps could be the reason why I'm seeing this. I always fill with Chevron 91. Unfortunately 91 is the best we have in California, and even then our 91 is worse than the rest of the country's. Cobb has a map just for ACN (Arizona-California-Nevada) gas because of how bad it is. And, from what I understand, gas quality is typically worse during the summer than it is during the rest of the year.

SoCal is also in the middle of a huge heat wave right now and it's been 100+ degrees for the past few days. I know these cars are prone to heat soak and given that I have the stock intercooler still, I wonder if the extremely high temps could be the reason for the DAM drop/knock readings.

As of right now I'm a little scared to drive my car until I can figure out exactly what's going on. Any insight would be much appreciated!
No strange idle or high A/F adjustments? I'd just use up the rest of the gas and try a fresh tank. The DAM changes for a reason, and the tune or hardware hasnt changed recently, right?

Also reinstalling any map resets DAM. so just reinstall the MAP map and see if it drops again. But really, you need a fresh tank of gas to really find out.
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Old 09-01-2017, 01:17 PM   #731
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If your DAM is dropping using two different tunes than it is most likely a bad tank of gas. I really feel bad for you guys that don't have access to 93 or better. These engines are super sensitive to gas quality, even with the stock tune.
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Old 09-01-2017, 04:39 PM   #732
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No strange idle, AF/fuel trims are normal and within +/- 8% while driving. Sometimes I get -11% or -10% at idle but Cobb said that's normal and that was happening even way before my DAM dropped. No tune or hardware changes other than replacing the air filter, but I did that weeks ago and went through 1.5 tanks of gas with no issues until 2 days ago.

It may very well be a bad tank of gas. When I filled up this tank I had about 1/4th tank remaining. Surely enough my DAM dropped right after my gas gauge was reading about 3/4ths full after the new fill-up. Does gas "mix" in the tank when you fill up or does the old gas just sit on the bottom?

I'd be shocked and kind of bummed if that's all that it turns out to be. I typically only use Chevron which I understand to be one of the best gases out there. I guess California really does suck for gas. Maybe I'll try Shell or 76 for the next fill and see where that gets me.

On my drive to work today my DAM went up from 0.812 to 0.938~ or so. How careful or worried should I be right now? I'm assuming I should try to stay out of boost/WOT for awhile until it's resolved. Other than just using up this tank of gas and praying that I get a good tank next time, how can I tell whether or not its a bad gas issue or a more serious mechanical issue?
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I wouldn't lose sleep over it. Take it easy until the next fresh tank of gas.
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Old 09-04-2017, 01:37 PM   #734
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So update: after reading Jobber's post and realizing that DAM resets to 1 whenever I reflash a tune, I flashed it back to the MAP Stage 1 map on the night of the 1st. After two and a half days of driving my DAM has stayed consistently at 1, never got knock more than -2.81 and even that was only once, for the most part everything has been reading -1.41 or below.

This is still on the same tank of gas, which has me questioning whether the previous DAM drop was really because a bad tank of gas or if it was simply due to extreme heat soak. It's still warm here in SoCal but it's cooled to a more reasonable mid 80s, whereas during the week we were seeing consistent temps of 100+ and as high as 107. Given the circumstances I'm more inclined to think that the knock and DAM drop I had earlier was more a result of the high temps and constantly running the AC hard rather than bad gas.

I almost always fill up with Chevron, probably about 9 out of 10 times, the other 1 being 76. For curiosity's sake I'll give Shell a try next time I'm at the pump - I'm under 1/4 tank now so it should be soon. Going to try to use as much as this tank as I can so I can get a "full fresh" tank.
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Old 09-06-2017, 01:51 AM   #735
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Filled up with Shell today. Logged a WOT pull from 3rd gear, 2500rpm to redline. Looks like I'm getting some FKL at WOT.

Any thoughts?

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Any update on 2018 maps?
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Still a few weeks out yet. However, good news is Brian is finally back in town! So I am sure he will be working on getting caught up with these.

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So sorry for the lack of "me" around lately. We have been pretty short staffed, and I am swamped to say the least. But we have help on the way

The 2018 tune files (Stage 1) will be release very shortly. I have a few customers testing out the beta tune before we fully release it to the public. I will make sure to make an announcement on here when it's ready.

Also, for the customers who have already reached out for these tunes, I have stored all your emails so I can follow up with you once I am able to send the tunes out.

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would purchasing the 93 tune also give access to the 91 tune or vice versa?

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So sorry for the lack of "me" around lately. We have been pretty short staffed, and I am swamped to say the least. But we have help on the way

The 2018 tune files (Stage 1) will be release very shortly. I have a few customers testing out the beta tune before we fully release it to the public. I will make sure to make an announcement on here when it's ready.

Also, for the customers who have already reached out for these tunes, I have stored all your emails so I can follow up with you once I am able to send the tunes out.

Thanks again!
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Yeah, that's not a problem.

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Newb questions here. If I buy the stage 2 parts from map do I get the stage 2 tunes (91 and 93) free? What about the stage 1 tunes? Also do you offer forum members any discounts? My wrx is about to hit 1500 miles and I'm looking to buy the parts as soon as the 2018 maps are available.

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Hi Ian, if I have the MAP stage 1 tune and I have 2018 wrx, was I not supposed to tune it with the existing MAP stage 1 tunes?
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Yes to all of those questions Please email me, and we can discuss further. [email protected]

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Newb questions here. If I buy the stage 2 parts from map do I get the stage 2 tunes (91 and 93) free? What about the stage 1 tunes? Also do you offer forum members any discounts? My wrx is about to hit 1500 miles and I'm looking to buy the parts as soon as the 2018 maps are available.
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Sorry, not following you. Did you have a previous WRX with our tune before the 2018?

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Sorry, not following you. Did you have a previous WRX with our tune before the 2018?
I think he's saying he has a 2018 and loaded the existing map that you made for the 2015-2017.

Is there any difference? I'm getting a 2018 any day now and want to load a map on but would hate to load the wrong one on it.
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Yeah, that certainly won't work. It needs to be a 2018 specific tune file.


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I think he's saying he has a 2018 and loaded the existing map that you made for the 2015-2017.

Is there any difference? I'm getting a 2018 any day now and want to load a map on but would hate to load the wrong one on it.
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Just out of curiosity, have you found that the stock map for the 2018 was different from the 2015-2017s?
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and what is the planned release date for the 2018 tune?
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Also, if I buy the accessport from you before you have the MAPerfomance stage 1 91 octane tune ready, can I just run the cobb stg1 map until you have it ready, and then still get the tune you load on for free as long as I can prove I bought it from you? Or do I have to wait until you just tune an '18 and release the map?
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Hey Ian, do you guys offer etuning ? Or are there any revisions planned for the future ? I am still on V4 93 (2015 WRX post recall 2) and I absolutely LOVE this tune but I have been seeing -1.41 FKL here and there at 6,000 RPM. I remember reading about your built WRX seeing some FKL at that RPM and wanted to see if you guys ever figured out the cause.
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