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06-02-2011, 01:45 PM | #1 | |
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California Court: Turn Signal Unnecessary When Nobody is Looking
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06-02-2011, 01:55 PM | #2 |
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age old debate of whether a tree falling in the woods makes a sound or not.
obviously, if someone gets a citation, there was another car around, i.e., the one with the cop in it. interesting use of words, too, at the end it says drugs were 'found' I'm sure they meant 'seen' cause I don't understand how you get probable cause from not using a turn signal, which is basically what is being said here? it makes no sense. |
06-02-2011, 02:12 PM | #3 |
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Judge was a woman! This won't end well.
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06-02-2011, 02:12 PM | #4 |
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making sense and Kalifornia have nothing in common, dude.
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06-02-2011, 02:29 PM | #5 |
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I suspect the underlying story is that the officer intended to stop the vehicle and failure to use a turn signal gave him the excuse to do what he was going to do anyway, which was stop the car and search somebody's vehicle for drugs.
My younger brother used to be an officer and he told me flat out that if he wants to stop a car he WILL come up with some excuse. |
06-02-2011, 02:37 PM | #6 |
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Cool, I dont have to signal if noone is around. I was starting think Kalifornia would require it for all situations.
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06-02-2011, 02:44 PM | #7 | |
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When in a car you are fair game for LEOs. (In before that HipToBeATeabagger dude shows up to rant about the 4th Amendment. ) |
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When I come to power people who don't use their turn signals will be executed and their decaying corpses will be hung from streetsigns as a warning to others.
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06-02-2011, 03:14 PM | #9 |
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Seems like a straight forward ruling to me.
One statute says to signal when other cars are present, the other says to all the time within the last 100 feet. Thus they contradict. Kalifornia Supreme Court is spot on. |
06-02-2011, 06:56 PM | #10 |
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Conspiracy Theory
Sounds more like, the driver was being staked out by undercover officers.
Undercover dudes tell the Black and White to find a reason to pull the car over. Car probably had both plates, non-tinted front windows, and current registration. Defendant made a turn without signalling. Light 'em up! Officer gets driver to consent to vehicle search, and there's the drugs they were looking for. Subject goes to court, gets decent lawyer who finds a loophole in the driving code, and tries to get drug lord off on a technicality. I'm just guessing this as a probable scenario. My friend is a cop and pulled a car over that was being tailed by plain-clothes officers. After following the car (which ended up having boat loads of cash onboard) for awhile, he pulled the driver over for having a pendant dangling off the car's rearview mirror. Cause for being pulled over?... Obstruction of view. He did tell me though that you can be pulled over if your car has a cracked bumper. /rant |
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Fixored. Pretty strong words for somebody from Texas *cough* google Rick Perry *cough* CA isn't the first state to this either, there is another state that this has already come up in. I habitually use my blinker regardless. Just good habit. Dumb judge, I bet she thinks the cell phone law is stupid. |
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06-04-2011, 08:23 PM | #13 | |
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Sorry to go off topic. I use signals for everything. It is a good practice and takes absolutely minimal effort. I don't understand why anyone would be opposed to using them. That is why I believe that this is just a loophole that was exploited to get this guy off for more serious charges. It has nothing to do with the actual use of turn signals. |
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06-05-2011, 04:49 PM | #16 | |
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But how do you determine if another vehicle will be affected if not by distance from the turn? If a car has been following behind me for the last 5 miles am I supposed to indicate 5 miles prior to the turn? |
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There are lots of cases where more than 100 yards is called for; pretty much all the time in medium to heavy traffic at highway speeds for example.
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