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Old 08-16-2013, 01:24 AM   #751
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speaking of kanards I like the look of these
BTW, I think the only thing that makes these canards illegal is that they stick out past the farthest point of the bumper.

Something like the Voltex bumper with canards a la Jarrod Hoops would be legal IMO, as the canards finish flush with the edge of the lower half of the bumper. This pic is from the year the car won SM (2008). The question has been asked on SCCAForums recently and the general consensus is that those would be legal.

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Old 08-16-2013, 11:58 AM   #752
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I'm still figuring out why nobody nailed that car for the front bumper beam.
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Old 08-16-2013, 12:33 PM   #753
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I'm still figuring out why nobody nailed that car for the front bumper beam.
It was still the stock beam as far as I saw back then.
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Old 08-16-2013, 12:35 PM   #754
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In that pic I cant see where there's a spot of the bump beam, unless its behind the intercooler or behind the lower section of the hood. Or doesnt go all the way across.
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Old 08-16-2013, 02:08 PM   #755
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The stock Evo FMIC sits where the ARC FMIC sits. The bumper beam was designed with the OE FMIC in mind so most kits (that I'm aware of) don't modify the beam much, if at all. Plus, they ran an aftermarket bumper skin that probably gave more clearance as well.

I'm pretty sure that someone would have thrown paper if something that obvious was wrong with it in 2008 after they won. I remember looking it over and not seeing anything out of the ordinary.
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Old 08-16-2013, 02:08 PM   #756
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It's supposed to run across the top of the intercooler, and is normally hidden by the middle piece in the front bumper cover. I don't see a beam in that picture, and a lot of those replacement from bumper covers make you remove it to fit correctly. Hard to say though since it's black and also has some holes in it.
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Old 08-16-2013, 03:21 PM   #757
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Right, but it looks like there is nowhere near enough room between the top of the FMIC to the bottom of the grille for a US 5mph bumper beam.

I mean, Subies can get rid of the black part of their bumper covers too, but they gotta remove the beam and replace it with something smaller to get anything from it, like a JDM beam...

Also, you gotta wonder why there would be slots in the bumper cover between there if there was just a fat beam behind it.
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Old 08-16-2013, 07:37 PM   #758
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I actually have his old bumper beam sitting in my garage. I bought it from him a while back because I'm getting the same Voltex bumper. He notched it for clearance. I can guarantee you that it weighs within a pound of stock.

The stock beam actually has rectangular holes in it that are the same size as the rectangular cutouts in the stock bumper.

Here's my car with the stock bumper beam.




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Old 08-16-2013, 11:14 PM   #759
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In that pic I cant see where there's a spot of the bump beam, unless its behind the intercooler or behind the lower section of the hood. Or doesnt go all the way across.
interesting that you can't see a spot for it because i can actually see it in that pic.
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Old 08-17-2013, 01:40 AM   #760
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To me, and this could just be photo oddities, but the gray EVO looks like the FMIC hole is shorter and the area between it and the grille is taller.

That is a tiny beam in comparison though. I suppose it could just be the difference between having that 5-star crash rating and, well, not having it.

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Old 08-17-2013, 01:30 PM   #761
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That is a tiny beam in comparison though. I suppose it could just be the difference between having that 5-star crash rating and, well, not having it.
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Sadly enough, the crash ratings is why my wife chose not to buy another Evo and went with a Focus ST instead.

Still, I'm jealous of the Evo beam. I'm really hoping the letter I wrote prompts some discussion on modifying the front beam. If not, I'll stick with the stock location and grumble loudly.
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Old 08-18-2013, 03:02 AM   #763
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To me, and this could just be photo oddities, but the gray EVO looks like the FMIC hole is shorter and the area between it and the grille is taller.

That is a tiny beam in comparison though. I suppose it could just be the difference between having that 5-star crash rating and, well, not having it.
You're correct, the fmic opening is smaller. I still have the stock bumper.
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interesting that you can't see a spot for it because i can actually see it in that pic.
I see the intercooler through the holes where I'd expect the bumper beam to be.
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Old 08-18-2013, 11:36 PM   #765
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Well, there you go Tim, notch what you need cleared for the big FMIC, take 1 pound off of what you cut out, tack the rest back in off to the sides. It does clearly say you can notch to clear allowed parts as long as it's <= 1 pound lighter.

I was under the impression that modifying the beam was verboten (sorta like the steering column), hence my original comment about Jarrod's car. With the IC that much closer to the grille, there was no way it fit without doing so.
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Old 08-19-2013, 02:25 AM   #766
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I see the intercooler through the holes where I'd expect the bumper beam to be.
you only see the intercooler through the factory slots in the bumper beam (closer to the center). the rest of the intercooler that should be visible though the bumper cover slots is blocked by the bumper beam.
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Well, there you go Tim, notch what you need cleared for the big FMIC, take 1 pound off of what you cut out, tack the rest back in off to the sides. It does clearly say you can notch to clear allowed parts as long as it's <= 1 pound lighter.

I was under the impression that modifying the beam was verboten (sorta like the steering column), hence my original comment about Jarrod's car. With the IC that much closer to the grille, there was no way it fit without doing so.
No, I knew that I could do that, but there's no way I could justify it under the 1lbs/1" rule I'd be notching a lot more than is allowed to get things to fit. FMIC fitment? Yeah, I could do that, but doing a low mount turbo with FMIC....nope.
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air pump delete legal for SM?
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Yes it is.
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No comments on Solo Nats?
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I didn't drink as much as I should have
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I didn't drink as much as I should have
I dont think I did either. I drank quite a bit but I only got beyond buzzed with the 1 dollar miller lowlife at brothers on wednesday. Too long between drinks, too much time being the DD.
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How am I just finding this thread?

Here is my current setup in my 04 STi.

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Leafy, you drive the SSM miata in NER right? I have yet to read through this thread

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Leafy, you drive the SSM miata in NER right? I have yet to read through this thread
Well there's two up here. Mine's the one with wings and things. I'm not very useful on subie setup without driving it.

Are those lockout bolts the ones that stop the rear sub frame from shifting? Are those legal in SM?
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I dont think I did either. I drank quite a bit but I only got beyond buzzed with the 1 dollar miller lowlife at brothers on wednesday. Too long between drinks, too much time being the DD.
I only drank Tuesday night to the "I'm kind of drunk stage". Then I pussed out the rest of the nights since I had to be up earlyish the following morning. I need to plan more bar adventures for next time.

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Well there's two up here. Mine's the one with wings and things. I'm not very useful on subie setup without driving it.

Are those lockout bolts the ones that stop the rear sub frame from shifting? Are those legal in SM?
They're legal in SP. There was a clarification several years ago for an ESP WRX so SM gets it through inheritance.
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