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Old 06-24-2019, 05:58 PM   #1076
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Top Gear thinks the Model 3 is #1 EV.

“Everything Tesla has done up to this point has been building towards the Model 3 – a genuinely affordable mass-market EV – but it’s all for nothing if the product itself doesn’t stand up. So the question is, after spending a day in its company, do I want one? Does it have the desirability to drag not just early adopters and tree-hugging environmentalists out of their petrol and diesel fueled cars, but the wider public too? The answer is a surprisingly emphatic yes, and that’s because beyond the hype is a truly well-engineered car" (Top Gear).

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Old 06-24-2019, 06:29 PM   #1077
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Does the BRZ have enough power? Does the Tesla have enough range? As the world turns.
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Old 06-24-2019, 08:04 PM   #1078
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Religion has no need for facts - Galileo was a heretic. By the power of Lord Etron, I declare 1+1=9! As Teslas (and Tesla) crumble all around them, the poor sheep look away in fear and denial, embracing fantastic distraction. Every one of the psuedo-religious bubbles around us looks exactly like Tesla. Crazy/stupid people running each side's BS narrative, subliminally pushing ego benefits, and anyone near the center (rational/fact-based) is pigeonholed and marginalized.

Teslas are not and never have been better than the best ice cars of the same price range. They are toys for the rich - and anyone with one who is not rich has purchased for subjective reasons that are against their best interests. They want to be perceived as rich or cool or forward thinking, green, etc., and in their contrived little pond, they may get this benefit... but they are, in reality, none of those things. They are simply sheep that got taken for a ride, used as tools to pump a scheme that keeps private jets in the air and champagne ice cold - now in the name of saving the world.
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Old 06-24-2019, 09:23 PM   #1079
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Religion has no need for facts - Galileo was a heretic. By the power of Lord Etron, I declare 1+1=9! As Teslas (and Tesla) crumble all around them, the poor sheep look away in fear and denial, embracing fantastic distraction. Every one of the psuedo-religious bubbles around us looks exactly like Tesla. Crazy/stupid people running each side's BS narrative, subliminally pushing ego benefits, and anyone near the center (rational/fact-based) is pigeonholed and marginalized.

Teslas are not and never have been better than the best ice cars of the same price range. They are toys for the rich - and anyone with one who is not rich has purchased for subjective reasons that are against their best interests. They want to be perceived as rich or cool or forward thinking, green, etc., and in their contrived little pond, they may get this benefit... but they are, in reality, none of those things. They are simply sheep that got taken for a ride, used as tools to pump a scheme that keeps private jets in the air and champagne ice cold - now in the name of saving the world.
Dude you been in this thread since 2014 lol:. When is the end of Tesla? What year? Another five or ten?
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Old 06-24-2019, 09:38 PM   #1080
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Dude you been in this thread since 2014 lol:. When is the end of Tesla? What year? Another five or ten?
Thanks for proving my point, but, clearly, my post wasn't for you.
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Old 06-25-2019, 10:17 AM   #1081
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Bitchin, bitching, grumble, grumble. This could be 2014 or 2019 in this thread
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Old 06-25-2019, 01:36 PM   #1082
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Dude you been in this thread since 2014 lol:. When is the end of Tesla? What year? Another five or ten?
Quit picking on E.Nick for his religious beliefs. He said facts aren't a part of religious beliefs.

He's focused on the company, not the cars. The cars are well-engineered, well-assembled, well-performing, reliable, and pleasing to their owners and testers, but the company has some faults.

Though if you look closely at any manufacturer you'll find problems. No company is perfect.
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Old 06-25-2019, 02:48 PM   #1083
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I appreciate the cultural manifestos. It breaks up the never ending metrics debates.
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Old 06-25-2019, 11:20 PM   #1084
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Old 06-26-2019, 07:25 AM   #1085
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Tesla put a slider on their website so you can toggle between "purchase price" and "price with savings". I know they've had the "purchase price" at the bottom left of the screen, but I'd rather see the purchase price where I'm configuring, and clearly so would others; the $10k jump is a bit off-putting.
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Old 06-26-2019, 11:45 AM   #1086
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Tesla put a slider on their website so you can toggle between "purchase price" and "price with savings". I know they've had the "purchase price" at the bottom left of the screen, but I'd rather see the purchase price where I'm configuring, and clearly so would others; the $10k jump is a bit off-putting.
I agree. I wish they wouldn't focus as much on the "potential" savings. As long as their cars are similarly priced as the equivalent ICE (4 series, A4, etc), then they are competitive. I've never looked at buying a car and added gas and maintenance to the total price when comparing between brands.
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Re: the Tesla website 'potential savings' price

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Old 06-27-2019, 07:00 PM   #1088
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This guy goes into detail about what he learned from a company that tears down cars to report on how good/bad they are manufactured. Lots of interesting facts about the Model 3 vs Chevy Volt. Also, a rather spicy comparison to 1990's Kia manufacturing acumen. That's gonna leave a mark.
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Old 06-27-2019, 08:32 PM   #1089
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This guy goes into detail about what he learned from a company that tears down cars to report on how good/bad they are manufactured. Lots of interesting facts about the Model 3 vs Chevy Volt. Also, a rather spicy comparison to 1990's Kia manufacturing acumen. That's gonna leave a mark.
Nope.... He said that last year. That video is the same info from last years tear down of one of the first production model 3s. He even talked to Elon about what he found.

Tesla improves their cars and processes constantly right I believe the are in the 400,000 VINs. Here is what Bob Lutz ex GM/ Chrysler and Tesla critic said the other day about the latest produced model 3s. He also critiqued the assembly on one of the early produced model 3s.

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. But, when next to the car, I was stunned. Not only was the paint without any discernible flaw, but the various panels formed a body of precision that was beyond reproach. Gaps from hood to fenders, doors to frame, and all the others appeared to be perfectly even, equal side-to-side, and completely parallel. Gaps of 3.5 to 4.5mm are considered word-class. This Model 3 measured up.

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Old 07-02-2019, 04:42 PM   #1090
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Q2 2019 delivery numbers released: 95,200 total deliveries.

https://ir.tesla.com/news-releases/n...ion-deliveries

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Model S/X 	14,517 	17,650 	 
Model 3 	72,531 	77,550 	 
Total 	87,048 	95,200 	
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Old 07-02-2019, 05:40 PM   #1092
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Old 07-02-2019, 08:21 PM   #1094
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Nicely done. Hopefully they were able to turn a solid profit. If so, things could look very good in the near and mid term for Tesla.
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Old 07-03-2019, 10:20 AM   #1095
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Nicely done. Hopefully they were able to turn a solid profit. If so, things could look very good in the near and mid term for Tesla.
I would not be counting on it. As a trader I'd reduce exposure to TSLA here. Think it's more of a $200 stock than $300.
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Old 07-03-2019, 12:29 PM   #1096
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. Tesla Model 3 sets new safety technology benchmark in Euro NCAP testing

Tesla Model 3 sets new safety technology benchmark in Euro NCAP testing as six new cars receive top marks. A new batch of 2019 registered cars have been put through their paces in the road safety tests and came out on top. The results for the tests have been revealed today for the cars from DS, Kia, Mercedes-Benz, äkoda, and Tesla. Of the cars tested the Skoda Scala and Tesla Model 3 received extra praise. Matthew Avery, Director of Research, Thatcham Research comments, ďThe Tesla Model 3 achieved one of the highest Safety Assist scores we have seen to date
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Old 07-10-2019, 07:33 PM   #1099
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. TESLA MODEL S BEATS CHEVY, TOYOTA, AND CADILLAC FOR ULTIMATE CAR OF THE YEAR HONORS
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Old 07-16-2019, 07:45 AM   #1100
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Tesla lowered the Model 3 Performance to $54,990. They are including base auto pilot and the color multicoat white pearl which was a $2000 option at no cost. They also offering 18" wheels as an option if you call them but I don't know if it will lower the price even more.
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