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Old Today, 03:52 PM   #301
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Originally Posted by b4wantab View Post
I don't understand the keep improving it question. The aftermarket isn't committed at all. Even the Subaru dealers aren't committed. When was the last time your dealer took a CVT apart to fix it?

I don't understand the "sooo few buyers either". If you want a auto from Subaru you have no choice, so they buyers are there. Subaru doesn't offer as many performance options as they used to. Would they sell? To people here yes, is that enough to make a case? Probably not.

So, I am going back to the fair/poor mileage with the Subaru CVT in performance application. I don't think Subaru can do anything about it. That is just how the trans operates. Wonder if the XT will be different or improved or not based on the MPG feedback the Ascent is getting. I would consider the Ascent a stressed application on paper, not performance but the engine and trans are working to move all that around.


You asked if the aftermarket couldn't do something with it, what could Subaru do. Maybe just keep improving it?(question mark is a level of sarcasm). The aftermarket has certainly tried to work on it; but, how much effort will they put to is since the take rate of the CVT is already low, then, how many of those few numbers will spend more money with them. I'm thinking a much lower number. So, they don't try to hard where as Subaru is very likely working on better, stronger versions of it. And one day, they will have something that will handle the power just fine. Or so I hope.

As for mpg, I think folks are more pedal prone since it's easier than working a clutch as well. Plus we have no idea what Si Drive mode they are in. I'd wager people move to S# the vast majority of the time.
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Old Today, 04:02 PM   #302
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I'm not optimistic that we'll hear anything about the MY21 anytime soon. We're still waiting on the details of the S209 that was announced back in January.. price? release date? official power figures?

What we've heard so far:
  • Price: Most speculate $60-65k before dealer markups
  • Release date: "Pricing will be announced closer to the on-sale date in late 2019"
  • Power estimate: 341 hp/315 lb-ft
  • 0-60 mph estimate: "Less than 5 seconds" - I would sure hope so given that the STI has been able to do this since 2004

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