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Old 01-22-2018, 04:00 PM   #51
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So Ford just announced the engine/hg recall for the RS.
https://i.imgur.com/ssoZhuy.png

Customer Letter: https://drive.google.com/file/d/13_-...KLpSwwidi/view
Dealer Bulletin: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Rzl...X5GzvJsgb/view
Replacement Procedure: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Sli...i8mFqJLeX/view

Sounds like everyone's getting a new head gasket, and if the engine shows any signs of leaks or coolant in the cylinders a whole new head is coming.
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Old 01-23-2018, 11:59 AM   #53
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Kudos to Ford for addressing the issue. Stuff happens.
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Old 02-08-2018, 11:43 AM   #54
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sorry to bump, but was the 2018 the only model that got a front LSD, or was 2018 the only model that got it standard and it was available as an option on 2016 & 2017's as well?
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Old 02-08-2018, 12:03 PM   #55
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2018 was the only model with LSD. 2016 and 2017 was not an option or standard.
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Old 02-08-2018, 01:17 PM   #56
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2018 was the only model with LSD. 2016 and 2017 was not an option or standard.
thanks much, at least that information might help stop me from buying a near 40k ford.
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Old 02-08-2018, 01:58 PM   #57
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thanks much, at least that information might help stop me from buying a near 40k ford.
A test drive might convince you to buy it. LSD or no, it is an amazing machine.
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Old 02-08-2018, 02:14 PM   #58
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A test drive might convince you to buy it. LSD or no, it is an amazing machine.
That's the kicker; finding one to test drive locally. I know for a fact I'll have it in rear biased mode the whole time (aka "drift-mode") so the impact of the front mechanical LSD is reduced, and my current WRX is only LSD in the rear anyways, but it will always bug me if I don't try out both first since I'm a slut for mechanical diffs - but if it's a major delta between a 17 without and an 18 with I'll buy the 17 without and go aftermarket and/or FRPP counter
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Old 02-08-2018, 02:32 PM   #59
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We paid sticker for ours, assuming you do as well there's a higher entry fee on the 18 as opposed to a 17 RS2. I would buy either without a moments hesitation.
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Old 02-08-2018, 02:47 PM   #60
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That's the kicker; finding one to test drive locally. I know for a fact I'll have it in rear biased mode the whole time (aka "drift-mode") so the impact of the front mechanical LSD is reduced, and my current WRX is only LSD in the rear anyways, but it will always bug me if I don't try out both first since I'm a slut for mechanical diffs - but if it's a major delta between a 17 without and an 18 with I'll buy the 17 without and go aftermarket and/or FRPP counter
There is no rear biased mode. Drift mode just slams torque to the outer rear wheel faster than normal or track mode. It does not send any more total torque to the rear axle than normal or track mode. Consider drift mode to be "intentionally unstable" mode. Everything the RS does dynamically is because it can drive the rear wheels to a higher speed than the front, not because it can send more torque back there.

The addition of an LSD is not a large enough performance benefit to worry about it (in this car). What they can do with brakes to mimic an LSD is already quite good. The reduction in front wheel independence has an overall negative impact on cornering. It's one reason an up-model didn't happen.
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Old 02-09-2018, 01:45 PM   #61
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That's the kicker; finding one to test drive locally. I know for a fact I'll have it in rear biased mode the whole time (aka "drift-mode") so the impact of the front mechanical LSD is reduced, and my current WRX is only LSD in the rear anyways, but it will always bug me if I don't try out both first since I'm a slut for mechanical diffs - but if it's a major delta between a 17 without and an 18 with I'll buy the 17 without and go aftermarket and/or FRPP counter
Sorry to pour gas on the fire but.....

Ford just sent out an email today. "$1,000 Private Cash on the 2017 Focus RS. An offer like this doesn't come around often. Take advantage of $1,000 Private Cash on the purchase or lease of a new 2017 Focus RS. That's above and beyond any current public offers. Visit your Ford Dealer soon."

I've seen them as low as 34-35k, base, no option cars. Those are rare as most have options. And I'd suggest at least getting the RS2 package for the different seats, heated wheel, heated seats, Nav, etc. But the slick buyer could find one, easily (perhaps a different region than your own) for 4-5k off MSRP already, advertised, and this takes it down another 1k. So theoretically, the slick buyer could make out with one for 33-34k but would require skill. All dealers have been notified that the FSA must be completed prior to any new sale. So they have to change the gasket prior to selling the car.

Good luck. I stole mine last February but damnit I would have loved the additional 1k off from the factory.

Edit: Car doesn't need the LSD up front. I've had it out in heavy rain and it's a monster. Scooby says it's not needed and I agree 100%, and he knows way more than I do.
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Old 02-09-2018, 01:48 PM   #62
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A test drive might convince you to buy it. LSD or no, it is an amazing machine.
So you gonna give us a mini-review so I'm not the only one talking about how sick the mf'er handles?
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Old 02-09-2018, 02:02 PM   #63
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So you gonna give us a mini-review so I'm not the only one talking about how sick the mf'er handles?
Well do keep in mind it's the old lady's car so I don't get to drive it daily. Though she does have the STI today and I'm in the RS. What I can say for certain is that with the roads being nearly solid ice is that the traction control on the RS is much more aggressive than the STI. The STI will let me run to red line when all four break loose, the RS clamps down on that immediately and cuts power. Ford really doesn't like wheel spin. I think it must have beaten up a few of their engineers or something. I'm going to have to wait for the thaw to get a real feeling for it's handling.
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Old 02-09-2018, 03:51 PM   #64
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Well do keep in mind it's the old lady's car so I don't get to drive it daily. Though she does have the STI today and I'm in the RS. What I can say for certain is that with the roads being nearly solid ice is that the traction control on the RS is much more aggressive than the STI. The STI will let me run to red line when all four break loose, the RS clamps down on that immediately and cuts power. Ford really doesn't like wheel spin. I think it must have beaten up a few of their engineers or something. I'm going to have to wait for the thaw to get a real feeling for it's handling.
As I said before, drift mode, and turn TC off. Entire car is completely predictable. But I'd start real slow and work my confidence level up. The dip**** journalists really put everyone off on it. I started using it month 2, worked my confidence level up to the point I did this at the journalist ->
You'll have to try each mode, turn TC/ESC off, go through all the modes and test each for optimum for YOU. And I hope you aren't driving that thing on ice, on the OEM MPSS. Hopefully you got the winter wheel/tire setup from them.
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As I said before, drift mode, and turn TC off. Entire car is completely predictable. But I'd start real slow and work my confidence level up. The dip**** journalists really put everyone off on it. I started using it month 2, worked my confidence level up to the point I did this at the journalist ->
You'll have to try each mode, turn TC/ESC off, go through all the modes and test each for optimum for YOU. And I hope you aren't driving that thing on ice, on the OEM MPSS. Hopefully you got the winter wheel/tire setup from them.
Hahaha, definitely not using the MP SSís, the car sat on the show room floor for three days while we had a set of winter rims and Blizzaks shipped in from tire rack. The more I drive the RS though I get the feeling Fordís priority was on making it a performance car first, and a daily driver second. Or Iím just getting old and fat, one of the two.
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Hahaha, definitely not using the MP SSís, the car sat on the show room floor for three days while we had a set of winter rims and Blizzaks shipped in from tire rack. The more I drive the RS though I get the feeling Fordís priority was on making it a performance car first, and a daily driver second. Or Iím just getting old and fat, one of the two.
You would be correct. Performance car first, daily second. Golf R, swap those around. If you have the RS2, you'll have to play with the seat height (I have mine on the lowest setting), seat pan forward/backward, seat back forward/backward, and the lumbar. You'll get a good combo. It works for me and I'm 6'2". My seat lowest, seat pan all the way to rear, slight decline on the seat back, with mid setting on lumbar. Very comfortable now but took some getting used to being so snug in the seat. That and the bolsters take some time to wear in. Due to my height I have to climb into and out of it like a rally car. Those high bolsters take some getting used to on ingress/egress. It took me some time to adjust to it honestly. But after a month, cash money. The car likes to be driven aggressively. Hard to drive the thing sedately. It wants to go fast, turn fast and hard, and break laws. Look forward to what you have to say when you can throw it through some turns aggressively. That's when everything clicks and you really understand the car. You've got to get to 6 or 7 tenths to really get a feel for how good the chassis is. That and pushing the car in track w/normal mode suspension, and especially drift. Once you can beat on it and drift, oh my. It's like Moses parting the sea man. That's when I knew it was worth every dime. The damn handling is just incredible. Only thing better would be those rear half shafts up front so they'd be on all 4 corners. But that would be a lot more $.
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Old 02-09-2018, 06:08 PM   #67
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A month and a half and I'm off to the Adrenaline Academy! I can't wait!
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Old 02-11-2018, 11:36 PM   #68
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Hey Pre, how do you get this 1,000$ private sales cash? I'm very close to buying an RS.
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Hey Pre, how do you get this 1,000$ private sales cash? I'm very close to buying an RS.
They emailed me with the offer but not everyone received it apparently.

http://www.focusrs.org/forum/11-focu...-focus-rs.html

It's out there. Sign up for Ford's email list. The email contained my Ford customer number but since this incentive is out there, it should only take some negotiation at your dealer of choice to get it.
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Thanks! Im actually having a hard time with any local dealers. All either want MSRP or will only take 1k off. Tempted to just get a new sti...
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Old 02-12-2018, 01:30 PM   #71
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Are Canadian prices out of whack for the RS compared with the US?

All from manufacturer's websites, lowest price including delivery:

2018 Focus RS $60838 !!!
2018 Golf R $44341
2018 STI $41260 (doesn't include current $500 discount)
2018 Type R $42772

I'd like to consider the RS, but it's not gonna happen.
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Is any of that $60k stealership mark up? If so it's par for the Ford course.
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I'd do a nationwide search on auto trader or cars.com. That way you can see new ones only, and sort pricing lowest to highest. Then you can find the markets that have them discounted 4k-5k. Plenty out there. Saving 4 or 5k on a car warrants shipping it or flying/driving it back home because you'll still save thousands. Some markets have very stubborn dealers like say the PNW. Others in the South, there are steep discounts to be had. I paid $1400 under invoice for mine. It was mid optioned (RS2, roof, but no forged wheels or winter wheel package) and I know from looking the loaded options get the higher discounts from MSRP. The loaded ones is where I'm seeing 5k off MSRP. Best deal I saw so far was loaded with everything possible, RS2, roof, forged, winter wheels, car cover, etc. 7k off. My deal for 20+ years, if local won't deal, OK, I'll buy elsewhere and ship it or drive it home myself. Money talks and bs walks.
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Some markets have very stubborn dealers like say the PNW.
That's because people NEED AWD here to survive and will pay anything to get it...
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That's because people NEED AWD here to survive and will pay anything to get it...
C'mon man. Leave that dude alone. He doesn't want to have to use chains. I wouldn't either.
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