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Old 09-16-2019, 09:17 AM   #1
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Nissan wants to capitalize on the success of the LEAF. After becoming the first electric car to hit the 400,000 sales mark globally, Nissan has cemented its name on the EV market since 2010. And of course, the carmaker wouldn't want to slow down with that.

To follow up on the LEAF's success, Nissan is unveiling a new battery-powered electric vehicle to cater to the crossover SUV market. It won't be long before the Japanese marque reveals the car, though, as Automotive News has reported that the company has shown the electric crossover to U.S. retailers in a dealer meeting last month.

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Details about the electric crossover are scarce at this point in time, however. According to the dealers who saw the presentation, the crossover EV will have a 300-mile (483-kilometer) range, which puts it a bit at par with leading crossover EVs in the market like the Tesla Model X at 325 mi (523 km) and Jaguar i-Pace at 234 mi (377 km). Even better, the upcoming Nissan crossover EV is said to have the capability to sprint from 0 to 60 mph (97 kph) in under five seconds.

Of note, the first crossover EV that Nissan revealed to the world was the iMx Concept in 2017 (image gallery above). It won't be a long shot if the production crossover would be based on the eccentric concept.

By proportion, however, the Nissan crossover EV is described as a compact by the dealers – exterior proportions of the Rogue but with the interior space of a Murano.

The new Nissan EV is expected to be unveiled by the second half of 2021 and will be part of the eight battery-powered vehicles that Nissan will launch in the few years to come.
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I'm listening, Nissan...
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Nissan has enough EV experience to pull off a nice vehicle
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Dual motor leaf with a bigger pack on stilts?

Maybe the reason Nissan hasn't spent any R&D on their ICE cars in the past decade is because they are going full EV.
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this thing better not look as stupid as the leaf.
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this thing better not look as stupid as the leaf.
I’m picturing a love child of the Rogue and Leaf.
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Old 09-17-2019, 03:07 PM   #7
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Truthfully I am hoping the Juke returns as an EV. I have strange tastes.
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I liked the Juke as well man
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I liked the Juke. I also really like the Toyota CH-R. I just think it looks cool.
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I will say this now, if the Juke returns as an EV, has the same range as the Leaf Plus and is under $35K I will buy it.
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I do not blame you. Both teh CHR and the Juke remind me of a Paris Dakar RAID rally car.

And who would not love to drive that!

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I will say this now, if the Juke returns as an EV, has the same range as the Leaf Plus and is under $35K I will buy it.
Well, the leaf is more than 35K, so...


The juke was too funky for my tastes.
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Oh come on Dwf!

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didn't like the separate headlights, also the rear window is too sloped to be useful as a hatchback. other than that, it wasn't terrible.

The new one that we don't get is a little better, but still not my cup of tea.

if it was an EV with 200 mile range, with awd and somewhere around 350 hp, I might be willing to forgive it's shortcomings.
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Well, the leaf is more than 35K, so...


The juke was too funky for my tastes.
Ok, same price as the Leaf?
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Damn it EV IDX all motor. Do it Nissan..

Reality... If anyone can pull off a decent EV its Nissan. They've been making EV's longer than Elon / Tesla. Hell make it a Urus competitor in design.
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Damn it EV IDX all motor. Do it Nissan..

Reality... If anyone can pull off a decent EV its Nissan. They've been making EV's longer than Elon / Tesla. Hell make it a Urus competitor in design.
I mean aside from a couple Japan only limited production (200+/- units) EV's made in the late 90's early 00's that weren't for the private sector, Nissan has the Leaf, and the Tesla Roadster beat the leaf to market by a couple years.
GM beat them both to the market with the EV-1 in 97, and look what they've done with electric cars.

I was joking in an earlier post about Nissan not spending any R&D money on their vehicles in the past decade, but maybe they will actually come to market with something good.
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Haha. I'm aware of the GM boutique ca that was lease only. I never stated they were either first to market. just screwed up on Tesla's roadster. Meh life happens.

Either way. I imagine Nissan still has a better idea on how to grasp the tech �� most car companies.
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CNET has real nice photos however couldn’t post with my iPad so here’s the link

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/n...yo-motor-show/

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This sleek battery-powered crossover is packed with advanced powertrain and safety tech, and it looks ready for global driveways.

Nissan's been leading the battery-electric charge since the first Leaf, and with the way the new-car market has been trending globally, it's kind of amazing that the company hasn't stuck all those cells in a crossover SUV yet. Judging by the new Ariya Concept crossover SUV unveiled Wednesday at the Tokyo Motor Show, that day is almost upon us.

This handsome crossover shows off an evolution of Nissan's design language that the company calls "Timeless Japanese Futurism." Despite looking like it's about the size of the current Nissan Murano in pictures, with an overall length of 181 inches, the Ariya Concept is actually slightly shorter than today's Rogue. If any of it looks familiar, you may be thinking of the 2017 Tokyo Motor Show's IMx Concept, a show car whose avant-garde design led directly to the vehicle seen here. The fact that the Ariya doesn't have a name that's a three-letter sequence is worth noting: Nissan's IM nomenclature denotes future-thinking concepts -- when a concept gets an actual name, it signifies that it's closer to production.

Other telltales that this vehicle is production-bound are realistically sized wheels (21 inches) and side mirrors, plus a greenhouse profile that's sized to accommodate actual human beings.

Despite the absence of a traditional grille (the plastic shield deftly hides a number of driver-assist sensors), there's plenty of surface interest to hold the eye, including matte copper accents on the wheels and most noticeably, outlining the roof shape. Alfonso Albaisa, Nissan's senior vice president for global design, assures Roadshow that this isn't just a show-car flourish. As a wry nod to the importance of copper as a major material in EVs (as seen in wiring, motors, batteries and inverters), it will show up on production cars.

At least for the moment, Nissan is disclosing frustratingly little in the way of specs, but officials confirm to Roadshow that when a production version hits the market, their new EV-specific platform will allow for different battery capacities and both single and dual-motor versions.

Naturally, the Ariya features ProPilot 2.0, the next-generation suite of advanced driver assist features that just became available on the Japanese-market Nissan Skyline. (Be sure to check out our man Tim Stevens' first impressions of this new hands-off, low-speed tech.)

Nissan says that learnings from the GT-R sports car's Atessa e-TS torque-split system have been applied to the Ariya's two-motor, all-wheel drive system to yield impressive performance, but without getting powertrain specs and getting behind the wheels for ourselves, we won't know for sure just where to place this car in our minds.

In a nod to the movement to offer alternative upholstery materials other than cloth or leather, the Ariya's cabin features synthetic leathers that play against satin-finish copper-colored aluminum trim accents.

The centerpiece of the SUV's cabin is a new 12.3-inch widescreen display, which is acted upon with a multifunction control knob and haptic touch controls. It's one of two different super-widescreen displays that form the heart of this interior. When the vehicle isn't on, the interior is starkly minimalist, but touch the starter button and not only do displays come to life with hidden switchgear, the woodgrain does, too.

While it's particularly common for concept cars at the Tokyo Motor Show to claim pie-in-the-sky technology, as telegraphed by the looks, the Ariya isn't a look at some distant future. The same is true for the car's underlying technology -- it seems very doable right now, including bits like a novel video chat functionality and Tesla-like Firmware Over The Air update. Even car-to-grid technology, where the vehicle can actually sell energy back to utility companies (or be used to keep the lights on at an owners' residence when the power gets knocked out) is starting to become doable in select markets around the globe.

With the Nissan Leaf having been on sale since 2010, you may be wondering what's been taking so long for the company to offer a production crossover. Today's second-generation Leaf rides atop a platform that's still very similar to the original car, and substantial investments and time were needed to develop a new scalable EV architecture including wiring and safety systems in order to make the most of the opportunity.

This new Ariya seems to be the embodiment of all that work. We should see it -- or something very close to it -- in Nissan showrooms soon.
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There was a next gen Levorg in one of those links


SCREW YOU Subaru
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Will sell like hotcakes in the PNW.

Also, it looks like a very similar layout/shape as the VW ID.4 that's supposed to be released to the US market in 2020.


I'd probably lean towards the Nissan given their long-standing place in the EV market with the Leaf, and VW's terrible track record with anything electric. Wonder how quick Nissan could get something to market before the competitors swoop in?
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OK Nissan, that actually looks good. If one must CUV, EV is the way to go. Don't **** it up. And don't call it a Z either.
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OK Nissan, that actually looks good. If one must CUV, EV is the way to go. Don't **** it up. And don't call it a Z either.
Watch them claim it's "GT-R inspired"
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Nissan a new model will debut at CES, likely the Leaf E-Plus

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The more potent all-wheel-drive electric powertrain was showcased in the brand’s Ariya Concept SUV and a Nissan Leaf test vehicle


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Nissan unveiled its new twin-motor all-electric drivetrain at the 2020 Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas. Called e-4ORCE, it’s the Japanese brand’s first commercially available all-wheel-drive electric powertrain, which is expected to appear on a forthcoming production version of the Ariya Concept SUV.

The e-4ORCE system draws on knowledge gained from the development of the Nissan GT-R’s track-focussed torque splitting drivetrain and the Nissan Patrol’s off-road-focussed intelligent four-wheel-drive system. It also features a regenerative braking system across both electric motors, which Nissan says reduces pitch and dive under deceleration, contributing to a better ride quality and improved passenger comfort.

Takai Asami, Nissan’s Senior Vice President of Research, said: “The e-4ORCE twin-motor all-wheel control technology offers precise handling and stability, giving greater confidence and enabling excellent cornering performance and traction on slippery surfaces – as well as a comfortable ride for all passengers.”

Performance details for the e-4FORCE system are yet to be announced. However, back in Autumn 2019, Nissan previewed the new electric powertrain with a Leaf e+ development mule which delivered a maximum output of 304bhp and 680Nm of torque. It sported the same regenerative braking system and a pseudo-torque-vectoring system which independently brakes each of the car’s four wheels when cornering to maximise grip.
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This 300-hp-plus prototype Leaf hatchback has moves almost as ferocious as the GT-R

At CES 2020, Nissan's near-production-ready Ariya SUV concept glittered under the lights. Fifteen miles to the northeast, on a specially prepared course at the Las Vegas Motor Speedway, sat a squat little prototype Leaf with the Ariya's proposed powertrain—and we got to drive it.

Nissan calls the powertrain e-4ORCE, a name that barely makes sense as English (if at all) even if the concept behind it is plenty interesting. The prototype we drove was essentially a Leaf Plus with two motors, so power-wise everything is slightly more than doubled, with total system output sitting at 304 horsepower and 502 lb-ft of torque.

But Nissan didn't just lob a second motor into the back. It put some thought into how it could leverage that second motor to make the car better to drive, and for that the company drew on its experience with four-wheel-drive and electronic chassis control in cars like the GT-R.

Nissan laid out a closed course to demonstrate the system's advantages. First we ran the course in a standard front-wheel-drive Leaf Plus, then in the AWD prototype with the additional software enhancements of e-4ORCE switched on and off. The first thing obvious to us was the difference in acceleration, or more specifically acceleration response. We all know that electric motors can deliver 100 percent of their torque from a standstill, and an EV's control software has to ramp up the power judiciously to avoid turning the tires to butter. With all wheels driven, the e-4ORCE system can feed in the power more aggressively. We didn't get the four-wheel burnouts we were hoping for, but compared to the ordinary Leaf Plus, the all-wheel-drive system is noticeably snappier to respond and quite a bit quicker. Nissan says accelerator response is better than "competing" all-wheel-drive EVs, which we take to mean the Tesla Model 3.

The second trick up e-4ORCE's sleeve is the ability to leverage the motors to reduce pitch in stop-and-go driving. By carefully dividing the onset of both power and regenerative braking between the two motors, the engineers can limit pitch and dive, which makes for a more comfortable and less carsickness-inducing ride, especially for passengers. The effect isn't as pronounced as Nissan wanted us to believe, but it does definitely reduce head toss, always a challenge with one-pedal driving.

Part and parcel of e-4ORCE is a trick that isn't exclusive to EVs. While the e-4ORCE system can, and does, alter power front-to-rear, it also does a little side-to-side torque vectoring using the brakes. Our test course included a short, 37-mph slalom that ramped up to 43 mph, and with the additional pitch, roll, and vectoring controls switched off, the prototype exhibited more of the grip-n-go feel we expect from an all-wheel-drive car. With the e-4ORCE enhancements switched on, the brake-grabbing action was much more noticeable than any such system we've tried, to the point of being almost abrupt—but it worked. With the system enabled, the car carved the corners quickly and neatly and with less understeer.

The last section was a wet skidpad, where we were invited to drive onto the wet pavement at about 20 mph, then nail the throttle and try to hold our line. The difference was exactly what you'd expect: The two-wheel-drive Leaf drifted outward as we built speed, to the point that we had to lift to avoid cone annihilation, while the prototype with e-4ORCE enabled held its line to much higher speeds. What Nissan probably doesn't want us to tell you is that we had a lot more fun in the all-wheel-drive car with e-4ORCE switched off, where all that torque allowed us to get our drift on. Note to selves: When the production car comes out, let's test it in Detroit in the winter.

The engineer for the system told us that while there is some tweaking to be done, this is pretty much a complete production-ready system; all it needs is a car. That car is the Ariya—a concept, sure, but note that it has door handles, side mirrors, and something approximating bumpers, and that means it is pretty much Nissan's all-electric SUV. Nissan won't comment on timing, but we imagine the Ariya won't be too late to the Mach-E/Model Y party.

We can't say our limited drive was the most thrilling thing we've done this week—we were in las Vegas, after all—but we're pleased Nissan is thinking hard about the performance potential of two-motor setups.
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