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Old 01-10-2020, 06:13 AM   #1
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2021 Ford Bronco: Get the Inside Story Before the Official Reveal

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Who has the harder job: a Disney producer assigned to the Star Wars franchise or a Ford engineer tasked with creating the new Bronco? Successfully modernizing a timeless classic means running a razor-thin line between blasphemy and anachronism. Basking in the warm, rosy glow of nostalgia, legions of die-hards with opinions cemented over decades stand ready to crucify the final product if anything is amiss.

Our renderings include a bit of imagination, but we're confident that the tires will be big, the body will be boxy, and the roof will be removable.

It's been 24 years since the last Ford Bronco rolled off the assembly line, giving zealots plenty of time to ruminate on the iconic nameplate and what it means to them. Bronco nostalgia is arguably more powerful now than it's ever been. The name carries so much weight that Ford cannot afford to apply it to just any SUV. There are certain elements that simply must be part of the package, or else the new Bronco's legacy will be about as respectable as George Lucas's godawful prequel trilogy.

Since word of a Bronco revival leaked a few years ago, we haven't been all that optimistic. The Ranger pickup's anticlimactic return to the U.S. wasn't a good omen. The truck we got was a mildly warmed-over version of the global Ranger that had been on sale elsewhere for years. We worried that the upcoming Bronco, too, might turn out to be a lame repurposing of one of Ford's global SUVs, such as the outdated Everest.

Based on spy photos, parts guides, and our sources within Ford and its suppliers, that doesn't seem to be the case. While we await Ford's official unveiling, everything we know about the new Bronco suggests it will be exactly what everyone wants it to be: a body-on-frame, two- or four-door SUV with legitimate off-road capability and a removable roof.

It Will Look Like a Bronco

While it is based on Ranger/Everest underpinnings, its look will be a clean-sheet design with careful consideration (read: pandering) paid to all the things that make a Bronco a Bronco. It's no coincidence that Ford's carefully crafted modern-era Bronco will be similar in scope to the Jeep Wrangler, which has gained popularity in the years since the Bronco began its hibernation in 1996. Despite a few upstarts that briefly made waves, including the Nissan Xterra and the Toyota FJ Cruiser, Jeep has owned this off-road-SUV space for more than two decades. Remarkably, for two years now, FCA has sold more Wranglers than Nissan sold Altimas or Ford did Fusions. The Bronco, which will debut this spring as a 2021 model, will certainly look to make a dent in those numbers, although it isn't likely to be a volume seller like the Escape, the Explorer, or even the upcoming Escape-based Bronco Sport crossover.

Huge sales numbers are not the reason you roll out a niche model like this. The Bronco is mostly meant to get people excited about Ford SUVs again, so the styling will have to make an impact. As previewed by the Bronco R off-road race prototype, a squared-off hood and imposing Raptor-style grille that says "Bronco" in giant block letters will leave no doubt as to the identity and attitude of this model. We anticipate it'll have round headlights, lending a retro touch, and 35-inch all-terrain tires with plenty of wheel clearance for off-road capability. A chunky full-size spare tire will likely hang off the back.

"In a departure from Jeep's approach, Ford is envisioning the Bronco as more of a high-speed desert runner than a low-speed rock crawler."

Doors and Roof Come Off

As previously mentioned, both two- and four-door versions will have doors that can be taken off for open-air fun, complementing a removable hardtop. The Bronco's side mirrors will be mounted on the A-pillars, and the doors will be stowable in the cargo area. Patents for the door-removal system show a set of latches, a far simpler solution than the hinges on the Wrangler's doors, which require tools to take off. Expect extradurable interior parts that will stand up to the elements, as one engineer let slip to us that waterproofing sensitive components, such as the power seats, was a challenge.

In a departure from Jeep's approach, Ford is envisioning the Bronco as more of a high-speed desert runner than a low-speed rock crawler (though the Bronco R race truck failed to finish the Baja 1000 this past November). This means the Bronco won't adopt an old-school live axle up front like the Wrangler and will instead have a long-travel independent suspension. The rear will be a live-axle setup with leaf springs, and both axle designs will be supplied by Dana. We expect the most hardcore Bronco will offer electronic anti-roll-bar disconnects and borrow the locking rear differential from the Ranger Raptor (not sold in the U.S.) and possibly the Torsen limited-slip front diff from the F-150 Raptor.

What's Under the Hood

If any element of the new Bronco is primed to piss off traditionalists, it's the turbocharged 2.3-liter inline-four that will serve as the base engine. Either that or the rumored hybrid powertrain that Ford may put in the Bronco. While die-hards won't be truly satisfied with anything less than a naturally aspirated V-8, we think most people will be just fine settling for this mill's 270-ish horsepower and 310-ish pound-feet of torque. If that's not good enough, a twin-turbo 2.7-liter V-6 will be optional, likely increasing those numbers to around 325 horsepower and 400 pound-feet. And here's the really juicy bit: In addition to Ford and GM's co-developed 10-speed automatic, word is that a manual transmission is in the works.

The cherry on top of all this nostalgia is the fact that the new Bronco will roll off the same assembly line in Wayne, Michigan, where its predecessors were built for decades. Ford built the Focus there in the 2010s before dropping it from the U.S. lineup. The current obsession with trucks and SUVs among the buying public and within Ford has taken a toll on sedans and hatchbacks. The Bronco isn't your average utility vehicle, though. It's shaping up to be a rare SUV with as much character as utility, with niche capabilities and broad appeal. It's Ford giving people, enthusiasts included, exactly what they want.
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Old 01-10-2020, 10:50 AM   #2
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Ford dropped the ball with the Ranger by only offering a 4 cylinder and not giving the US the Raptor version and sales have not been great as a result.
Hopefully they learned from that mistake.
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No V8 no care.
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Old 01-10-2020, 06:10 PM   #4
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Ford dropped the ball with the Ranger by only offering a 4 cylinder and not giving the US the Raptor version and sales have not been great as a result.
Hopefully they learned from that mistake.
It's also like a 10 year old design at the end of it's life and it shows. They should have brought it here when it was new. There will be a new one soon and it will probably be a lot better.
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I dig it. The 2.7lt Ecoboost is legit and a fun engine.

I wants.
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I liked the features on my Fords, I didn't like repeated trips to the stealership for recalls and FSAs. I'd probably be more excited about a new Bronco if I thought it wouldn't be a lemon.

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I'll reserve judgement until I see the final product.

That's a healthy segment to get into, though. Jeep sells the bejesus out of the Wrangler and its derivatives and Toyota has been selling a shed load of 4Runners the past few years, which is probably Jeep's closest competition.
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I liked the features on my Fords, I didn't like repeated trips to the stealership for recalls and FSAs. I'd probably be more excited about a new Bronco if I thought it wouldn't be a lemon.
Says the guy with an Audi

6 Fords so far and no major issues save for one of my Raptors which had an extremely rare issue with a fuse blowing.
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6 Fords so far and no major issues save for one of my Raptors which had an extremely rare issue with a fuse blowing.
Guess how many trips I've taken to the stealership with the Audi?
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I've seen a few in testing. Overhangs look shorter and roof is taller than the renderings, IMO. These things literally look like cubes on wheels. Seems like the front grille does have font, but may only say Ford and not Bronco. Definitely an off-road version in the works. One test vehicle rides several inches higher than the rest. Most of them look like the Ford equivalent of a Jeep Renegade.
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Jeep Renegade? Yeah, the girl won't like that. Probably getting her a Cybertruck instead.
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Jeep Renegade? Yeah, the girl won't like that. Probably getting her a Cybertruck instead.
A cybertruck, I'm sorry, how long has she been blind?

Maybe a Rivian if her sight improves
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That looks largemungus. A lifted Flex with mud tires. Not what I had in mind.





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A 2 door full size Bronco would be ok if it has retro stylings. A Gladiator with a hard top is a nope.
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A cybertruck, I'm sorry, how long has she been blind?

Maybe a Rivian if her sight improves
heh. its her Epilepsy. she's not permitted to drive, but with FSD she could use a Tesla.

She really loves Jeeps because they're boxy so I'm hoping the Cybertruck is acceptable.
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It doesn't look too big in this shot.



I like this image but I want the round retro headlights. But it kinda resembles a Rover product with it being a 4 door. So lose the doors.
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I am afraid that there is no way we get a 2 door bronco... THe market for a 4 door has been solidified by the demand for the 4 door jeep.
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heh. its her Epilepsy. she's not permitted to drive, but with FSD she could use a Tesla.

She really loves Jeeps because they're boxy so I'm hoping the Cybertruck is acceptable.
My attempt at sarcasm was meant comical, but obviously I did not do a good job and managed to insert my foot into my mouth. Happens sometimes, so I would not be me if I did not apologize for my crudeness and/or stupidity.
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I am afraid that there is no way we get a 2 door bronco... THe market for a 4 door has been solidified by the demand for the 4 door jeep.
So what makes it a Bronco and not another SUV they already sell? Would a 4 door Mustang still be considered a Mustang because demand is higher for 4 door cars? Hard pass on a not-a-Bronco. Will keep the Tiggy.
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My attempt at sarcasm was meant comical, but obviously I did not do a good job and managed to insert my foot into my mouth. Happens sometimes, so I would not be me if I did not apologize for my crudeness and/or stupidity.
No worries. I don't talk much about her so there isn't any way for you to know.
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So what makes it a Bronco and not another SUV they already sell? Would a 4 door Mustang still be considered a Mustang because demand is higher for 4 door cars? Hard pass on a not-a-Bronco. Will keep the Tiggy.
Longitudinal layout, RWD based 4WD system, BOF construction, focus on off-road capability.

Look at the truck market, the majority of them sold are 4-doors; it would be a poor move financially and guarantee a quick model death to put out a 2-door only model of an SUV. Maybe have the option of a 2-door, but there has definitely got to be a 4-door.

If there was a 4-door mustang (no that EV CUV is decidedly not a mustang), I'd have a mustang for a daily right now; I don't even care if it's called a mustang, call it a a falcon, fusion, thunderbird, maverick, thundercougarfalconbird, or whatever, just give me the 5.0 6mt rwd combo and I'm sold.

A 3rd or 4th+ car is not that common anymore; and although I'm comfortable putting car seats in and out of the back of a 2-door, the majority of people aren't, and a 2-door bronco is in 3rd or 4th+ car territory.
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If there was a 4-door mustang (no that EV CUV is decidedly not a mustang), I'd have a mustang for a daily right now; I don't even care if it's called a mustang, call it a a falcon, fusion, thunderbird, maverick, thundercougarfalconbird, or whatever, just give me the 5.0 6mt rwd combo and I'm sold.
That kind of proves his point... it wouldn't be a mustang.

Just like a 4 door bronco wouldn't be a bronco
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I’d consider a 4 door bronco as long as it comes with at a minimum a 2.7lt Ecoboost and doesn’t cost more than what I can get an F150 for.
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