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Old 10-27-2015, 08:35 PM   #151
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You're not dropping it down at all? I did 12mm with stock manifold just dropped the ALT all the way and I got clearance for days.
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Old 10-28-2015, 11:26 AM   #152
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You're not dropping it down at all? I did 12mm with stock manifold just dropped the ALT all the way and I got clearance for days.
I am dropping it down, I just run into other clearance issues. Basically if I don't move the manifold up I need to rotate the throttle body (DBW hits the rear of the alt.). But on the Cosworth there is a small bulge that I would need to get a throttle body spacer to clear if I flip it on its side (I think that would make for another clearance issue from my measurements).

My game plan is to add the 19mm Phenolic spacer and test fit, then add the 19mm TVG to manifold spacer if needed (I feel it will be). I would prefer to keep a good angle on the charge pipe and the higher the manifold the less drastic I will need the charge pipe to bend.
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Old 10-28-2015, 12:09 PM   #153
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I am dropping it down, I just run into other clearance issues. Basically if I don't move the manifold up I need to rotate the throttle body (DBW hits the rear of the alt.). But on the Cosworth there is a small bulge that I would need to get a throttle body spacer to clear if I flip it on its side (I think that would make for another clearance issue from my measurements).

My game plan is to add the 19mm Phenolic spacer and test fit, then add the 19mm TVG to manifold spacer if needed (I feel it will be). I would prefer to keep a good angle on the charge pipe and the higher the manifold the less drastic I will need the charge pipe to bend.
From what I've seen people use the 19mm riser and a 3/4" TB spacer and everything fits just barely, but not a large number of cossie IMs are out there. And I definitely understand the charge angle I gotta fix mine to make it squared off instead of coming in at about a 15° angle while hitting the 45°coupler at the TB.
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Old 10-28-2015, 12:39 PM   #154
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From what I've seen people use the 19mm riser and a 3/4" TB spacer and everything fits just barely, but not a large number of cossie IMs are out there. And I definitely understand the charge angle I gotta fix mine to make it squared off instead of coming in at about a 15° angle while hitting the 45°coupler at the TB.
Yeah, I figured it was a maybe fitment wise that other way you are talking about. Just know it will have more clearance/allow a better charge pipe angle with the manifold higher.

I also would prefer to not flip the TB, I just think it looks a bit funny having the plastic side up. LOL (I have my share of OCD tendencies)
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Old 10-28-2015, 01:03 PM   #155
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Yeah, I figured it was a maybe fitment wise that other way you are talking about. Just know it will have more clearance/allow a better charge pipe angle with the manifold higher.

I also would prefer to not flip the TB, I just think it looks a bit funny having the plastic side up. LOL (I have my share of OCD tendencies)
I understand that completely, and hell I flipped the TB 180° so its still on the side like normal. I couldn't deal with the plastic being up top and looking all dumb
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Old 11-03-2015, 03:42 PM   #156
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Well making some progress, its slow seeing most of my parts I am needing to order as I go. But motor is out and I will test fit the front sub frame soon as well as get the tranny over to get looked over and pricing on swapping in the '07 longer gear-set.

Just got my steering column in the mail from L&E Fabrication:

IMG_20151102_105810790 by Bret Stevens, on Flickr

Here is a close up for the gear drive they add to the column making 1 rotation of the wheel do the work of 1.5 rotations:

IMG_20151102_105824551 by Bret Stevens, on Flickr

Really nice looking product, as well as a great guy to deal with.
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Old 11-03-2015, 06:41 PM   #157
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In the effort to lighten the front end I made an aluminum version of the Perrin front bumper beam that comes with their FMIC kit. The steel one that comes with the kit weighs in at 9lbs, I was able to cut that in half with the change in material making it just under 4.5lbs.

Perrin bumper beam on a scale:

IMG_20151103_125013578 by Bret Stevens, on Flickr

My aluminum version on a scale:

IMG_20151103_124958917 by Bret Stevens, on Flickr

The two side by side (new one has all the mounting holes the lower one is just covered in the picture):

IMG_20151103_125038299 by Bret Stevens, on Flickr

It is only tacked together for now to check fitment, might incorporate the lower radiator support onto this component but need to eye ball things more with this on the car. My other idea was to weld on a thin wall tube between the frame rails. It will all come down to what saves the most weight without having structural issues.
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Old 11-03-2015, 07:28 PM   #158
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Very nice man!!! Every pound counts!
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Old 11-03-2015, 07:52 PM   #159
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Steering rack contact information please?
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Old 11-04-2015, 10:49 AM   #160
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Steering rack contact information please?
Its a steering COLUMN not a rack, I could not locate a "quick rack" but found this guy and his modified column's in the process.

L&E Fab: http://www.landefabrication.com/steering.html
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Old 12-07-2015, 02:05 PM   #161
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Had a relatively productive weekend between recording weights of a few parts and removing the rear spare tire area from the car as well as a few other little things:

First was the Steering rack bushings:

IMG_20151202_163859018 by Bret Stevens, on Flickr

Clearly these where due for replacement. LOL

Then came some weight reduction, pulled off the rear bumper beam as well as the front "U" brace (both not going back on car).

Rear Beam 28.3lbs:

IMG_20151202_160545982 by Bret Stevens, on Flickr

Front "U" brace 24.4lbs:

IMG_20151202_160843259_TOP by Bret Stevens, on Flickr

Then I moved onto the charcoal canister in the rear 7.8lbs:

IMG_20151203_123239436 by Bret Stevens, on Flickr

Finally I was able to find the time to Cut out that rear spare area so I can replace it with some aluminum sheet:

Before:

IMG_20151206_102201104 by Bret Stevens, on Flickr

After:

IMG_20151206_113144606 by Bret Stevens, on Flickr

Cut out sections weight 14.6lbs:

IMG_20151206_113057933 by Bret Stevens, on Flickr

Overall I permanently removed 75.1lbs . . . clearly I will need to add the aluminum plate so it will likely be closer to 70lbs lost after adding that back but I will record that once I have it built.
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Old 12-07-2015, 07:35 PM   #162
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I approve this! Still planning on remaking the FMIC support?
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Old 12-07-2015, 09:45 PM   #163
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I approve this! Still planning on remaking the FMIC support?
Well I'm about to make the lower radiator support and if I can combine the two ill do it. As I look at it I'll be able to make both into the same part.
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Old 12-08-2015, 03:10 PM   #164
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I approve this! Still planning on remaking the FMIC support?
I ran down to my shop last night when waiting on dinner to cook and cut out the lower radiator support, still have to clean it up a tad and remove a little more material. No pictures of that just yet, I will take some when I am done trimming.

But it did get me inspired to add an aluminum lower radiator support to the FMIC support I made. Very simple, I just used a 1"X1" tube with another set of "L" brackets sandwiched over the two of the existing mounting holes. I feel this turned out well.

IMG_20151208_114616158 by Bret Stevens, on Flickr

I still might remake the whole thing but I am starting to feel this will be fine as a finished product seeing I will likely paint it black and will never see it once the car is together.

Looking forward to bolting this up and seeing how it all measures out, I would like to find my final dimensions for the radiator so I can get on of those on the way sooner than later.
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Old 12-10-2015, 12:11 PM   #165
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Ok so I got my TSS FAB stuff back from coating, happy with how it all came out. Overall it came to a loss of 37.4lbs

I recorded the weights for the OEM and the TSS FAB parts for reference. Not everything drops weight, the trailing arms actually weigh twice as much as OEM but this was pointed out to me by them when I first looked into these parts. Hard not to just get it all with how Bitchen everything the make looks, sad it will all be hidden soon.

OEM front sub frame (32.9lbs):

IMG_20151202_163023764 by Bret Stevens, on Flickr

OEM rear sub frame (w/lateral links 38.6lbs):

IMG_20151202_161055319 by Bret Stevens, on Flickr

OEM T-bar (27lbs):

IMG_20151202_161546353 by Bret Stevens, on Flickr

OEM trailing arms (w/mounts 4.4lbs):

IMG_20151202_161258208 by Bret Stevens, on Flickr

Total of 102.9lbs

Now for the TSS FAB stuff.

TSS FAB front sub frame (20.9lbs):

IMG_20151209_144012899 by Bret Stevens, on Flickr

TSS FAB rear sub frame (w/lateral links 23.5lbs):

IMG_20151209_144607719_HDR by Bret Stevens, on Flickr

TSS T-bar (12.1lbs):

IMG_20151209_143850677_HDR by Bret Stevens, on Flickr

TSS trailing arms (w/mounts 9lbs):

IMG_20151209_144231290_HDR by Bret Stevens, on Flickr

Total 65.5lbs

Over view with TSS on the left and OEM on the right:

IMG_20151209_151508684 by Bret Stevens, on Flickr


Overall I am happy with the product as well as the weight savings. Yes cost per pound is high but with these frames there are other benefits such as the 1" drop correction on the pick-up points, the added stiffness of not only the physical frames but in the lack of bushings (all hard mounted/heim joints). The OEM T-bar uses SOFT mounting bushings, OEM lateral links also had relatively soft bushings that change is something I was specifically looking forward too.
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Old 12-10-2015, 01:05 PM   #166
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Dang dude... Must say I'm jealous of the progress you got so far, right now I'm kind of stuck on my build. Two different options and whether to spend money now or later end result will be the same and I have it so who knows what I'm going to do
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Old 12-10-2015, 01:24 PM   #167
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Dang dude... Must say I'm jealous of the progress you got so far, right now I'm kind of stuck on my build. Two different options and whether to spend money now or later end result will be the same and I have it so who knows what I'm going to do
I'm trying hard to find time between when I get home and when the GF gets home to maintain the balance. LOL. I wish I was onto the intercooler piping by now personally, but all in good time.

If it was me I would just run the short block you already bought unless you are getting serious offers on it. I like the closed deck option but unless you are going pretty big (from what I remember your not going much larger than me if it was larger) turbo/whp wise I would not see a need for more insurance block wise.
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Old 12-10-2015, 07:36 PM   #168
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I'm trying hard to find time between when I get home and when the GF gets home to maintain the balance. LOL. I wish I was onto the intercooler piping by now personally, but all in good time.

If it was me I would just run the short block you already bought unless you are getting serious offers on it. I like the closed deck option but unless you are going pretty big (from what I remember your not going much larger than me if it was larger) turbo/whp wise I would not see a need for more insurance block wise.
I understand that man, the gf doesn't always understand/want to share time haha. I wish I was doing my airbox and finalizing my IC piping as well. But it is what it is for now!

I'll be running 35+ psi on this EFR so I'll be pushing the limits of even the strongest stock sized headstuds from what I'm told.
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I understand that man, the gf doesn't always understand/want to share time haha. I wish I was doing my airbox and finalizing my IC piping as well. But it is what it is for now!

I'll be running 35+ psi on this EFR so I'll be pushing the limits of even the strongest stock sized headstuds from what I'm told.
LOL, you are correct. Not sure what I was thinking, I think I was remembering your thread title and the 500 whp DD thing. With a plan like that I would agree build that block like a tank and don't roll the dice with anything less.
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Old 12-10-2015, 08:35 PM   #170
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LOL, you are correct. Not sure what I was thinking, I think I was remembering your thread title and the 500 whp DD thing. With a plan like that I would agree build that block like a tank and don't roll the dice with anything less.
It started out just wanting to crack 500 but I got a little greedy and will get to around 550 I hope and hold 500+ til redline so I'll be pushing the turbo hard lol
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Old 12-28-2015, 02:23 PM   #171
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Well I just got my tranny back from the local shop, looking forward to feeling the longer 3rd and 4th they put in as well as if the carbon synchronizer's feel/function any differently (doubt I'll notice the synchro portion). After picking it up and looking at the trans mount I started wishing I had one that matched those bitchen TSS FAB parts, seeing last I heard he wasn't taking orders yet I welded up a jig and will be attempting to build my own out of tube (I'll post a pic of the jig tomorrow if I get a chance to snap a picture tonight).

Razgeiz, I feel you on that one. I'm starting to want to go bigger (really shouldn't for my overall goals) to shut up a few guys I drag race with at our heads up no prep 1/8 end of the year event.
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Old 12-29-2015, 12:12 PM   #172
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Here is that jig I made the other day.

IMG_20151229_070640971 by Bret Stevens, on Flickr

Should make for a fun little project when I get the bender back from my brother.
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Old 01-19-2016, 04:06 PM   #173
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Well I was able to install the steering column and Momo wheel the other day after waiting 2 months for my Momo adapter. I was able to retain the cruse control but might take it out and trim a little better to allow it to sit flat rather than the slight angle it has currently.

IMG_20160113_075245613 by Bret Stevens, on Flickr

IMG_20160113_075311593 by Bret Stevens, on Flickr

Also bolted up the front frame seeing I wanted the column in first so I could center and attach all the steering at the same time. This TSS FAB stuff is so BITCHEN!!!

IMG_20160113_075332573 by Bret Stevens, on Flickr

I also clearly have the trans back in, as well as the rear diff and drive shaft. I will just post those pictures when I have things all back together as far as the rear end is concerned.
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Old 01-19-2016, 04:14 PM   #174
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Those are nice seats, when did you change those out?
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Those are nice seats, when did you change those out?
Same carbon-kevlar momo ones I have always had sense swapping out the stock seats. I tore them and had them as well as the rear seat and door cards recovered in black leather and gray alcantara. I was never a fan of the blue interior stuff so wanted to remove it all, looks a lot less tuner kid now.
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