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Old 08-18-2019, 09:59 AM   #451
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Update:
Picked up the car from the dealership on Friday. They had it for 9 days (provided me with a loaner). They replaced the windshield washer reservoir, the driver’s side undertray and the driver’s side front fender liner. Now I have the SICKEST washer reservoir. Lol.
They did try to charge me for the undertray, fender liner and labor for replacing both those things. I refused to pay that as they were ripped off my car from the failed “repair” they charged me for when the washer reservoir gave way two weeks ago. So they ended up claiming it as a warranty claim. I think I’m going to give another dealership a try for future work.

Man I missed driving my car. Doesn’t take but driving a regular car for a few days that feels like it’s floating to truly appreciate what you’ve built.

I participated in my first tattoo convention over this past weekend. Drove down with my homie Koty who’s got a 2018 STI. Gotta say I love the interior and how much the seats hug. Still prefer the styling of the 2008-2014 seats with the integrated headrests. But I was pretty impressed with all the upgrades to the interior. Aside from the interior, you definitely can feel the stiffness of the chassis (in a good way). The reduction of creaks and rattles is amazing. I’m going to look into some chassis stiffening/bracing to help alleviate some of the rattles and provide an even more neutral driving experience. Need to do some more research on the Cusco and Whiteline product offerings in that category. I might also consider some dynamat for the door cards and the spare tire area to further alleviate any interior cabin noise.

One thing on the back burner I’d love to do is the 2015+ steering rack. Anybody have any experience with this?

It’s hot as balls out today, but I might try to swap out my Subaru badges. I’ll keep you guys posted.

Tomorrow I have my Lightwerkz appointment. So stoked to get some small lighting mods done.
-Wire Halos as DRLs
-Independent foglight mod
-Morimoto XB LED foglight w/ yellow LaminX foglight overlays
-Chargespeed rear bumper reflector LEDs
After doing some research on a 3rd brake light flasher module, I've decided against it since there's so many mixed reviews. Most positive reviews I've read have been updated to show the unit stopped working after a few short month. I don't think it's worth the risk of losing the 3rd brake light altogether in the event the flasher module fails.

And I’m really starting to notice the mileage on my brakes. I’m not sure if I should put them off until next year or tackle my rather expensive brake upgrade I was planning now and postpone the built motor until next year. I suppose we’ll see where my finances fall.
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Old 08-18-2019, 01:08 PM   #452
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The 2015+ steering rack is great mod. I got mine about 2 years ago and love it. It completely changes the driving feel and alleviates the “disconnected numbness” of the stock rack.
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Old 08-18-2019, 04:11 PM   #453
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New badges are on:




Decided to swap out the front badge so the front and rear match.
What do you guys think? Prefer the black on black front badge of the black with white stars?

My older brother got me the JDM STI oil filler cap from Japanparts.com for my birthday:


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Old 08-18-2019, 04:15 PM   #454
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The 2015+ steering rack is great mod. I got mine about 2 years ago and love it. It completely changes the driving feel and alleviates the “disconnected numbness” of the stock rack.
Glad to hear. Do you remember all the parts required for the upgrade?
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Old 08-18-2019, 05:10 PM   #455
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I had the 16 STi rack installed in my 09 hatch and after the initial install everything was tight and amazing. After a few days though, things seemed to have settled down and it felt more comparable to stock. Dont get me wrong, it was better than stock but not as noticeable as I thought or hoped. If it were like the first couple days after getting it installed, that would've been wonderful.

Mine needed some modification but I dont know what was done. It was cheaper than the direct replacement so it was a no brainers to upgrade it.
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Old 08-18-2019, 06:42 PM   #456
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Glad to hear. Do you remember all the parts required for the upgrade?


I just ordered the rack and took it to a local shop. I don’t believe I had to order anything else.
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Old 08-19-2019, 03:48 PM   #457
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Update:
Picked up the car from the dealership on Friday……..Now I have the SICKEST washer reservoir. Lol.
Glad to hear that the washer issue is finally resolved.
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Man I missed driving my car. Doesn’t take but driving a regular car for a few days that feels like it’s floating to truly appreciate what you’ve built.
I know what you mean about missing your car. I swapped cars with my brother in law yesterday for a fun Sunday drive. He has a Challenger R/T. While the NA V8 is fun and feels beastly, all I could think of the whole time was "man, I wish I was driving my own car right now, it is so much better than this"
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Drove down with my homie Koty who’s got a 2018 STI.
The VA STI’s are nice, I agree. I also prefer the GR looks though. I wish we could have the GR body with the VA interior and chassis quality, haha. I guess we can’t have it all though. As nice the VA’s are, I do like the slightly more visceral character of the GR. The VA driving experience feels slightly less ‘interesting’ to me (in spite of it’s superior chassis and steering rack).
I am really looking forward to seeing what Subaru comes up with for the next gen STI. I really hope they try to keep the raw character.
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One thing on the back burner I’d love to do is the 2015+ steering rack. Anybody have any experience with this?
I had a 2015+ rack installed in my 2005 WRX a few years back. The feel was great. It was a real improvement. I did the swap because the stock rack was leaking badly, so, I needed a new one regardless (the 2015+ rack cost the same as other Subaru racks, so it was a no-brainer going with it). The 2015+ rack does provide better weight, precision and on center feel, but, at +-$1,000 after installation, I would probably opt to put my dollars into other upgrades first if your stock rack is still in good shape.

Not sure what install would cost, but Whiteline rack bushings might be another option to look at depending on how you are allocating your budget.
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Tomorrow I have my Lightwerkz appointment. So stoked to get some small lighting mods done.
-Morimoto XB LED foglight w/ yellow LaminX foglight overlays
Curious to hear what you think about the XB fogs. I’d like to get those eventually but I wonder if they are worth it.
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And I’m really starting to notice the mileage on my brakes. I’m not sure if I should put them off until next year or tackle my rather expensive brake upgrade I was planning now …..
Looking forward to seeing what setup you opt for when the time comes. I am becoming a ‘brake geek’. There is something about a set of sick calipers and rotors that really does it for me, and being able to stop on a dime is almost as addicting as WOT pulls IMO. While the stock STI brakes are nice in both looks and performance, there is definitely room for improvement.
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New badges are on:
Decided to swap out the front badge so the front and rear match.
What do you guys think? Prefer the black on black front badge of the black with white stars?
Personally, I think the white stars suit your car very well, as it flows seamlessly with the theme. I am 50/50 on the white vs black stars on the front, but, I think the white stars are for sure the way to go in the rear.
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My older brother got me the JDM STI oil filler cap from Japanparts.com for my birthday:
The JDM cap is mother of all oil caps! So nice. That was an awesome gift.
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I just ordered the rack and took it to a local shop. I don’t believe I had to order anything else.
I can confirm this. The shop I used just ordered the rack. No other parts. They had to tweak the fitment a bit, but I don't that required more parts.


Sorry for the 'response overload'. I love talking cars/builds so I tend to go overboard

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Old 08-20-2019, 06:00 AM   #458
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With regards to the 2015 rack, I just installed mine and it's literally drop in. I set the toe myself and haven't had any issues.
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Old 08-20-2019, 10:25 AM   #459
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One of my favorite cars on here, such a well executed build. Picked up a 2013 hatch of my own about a month ago and hoping it ends up looking as good as yours! I went for silver though, I don't like washing my car enough to go for white. Sub'd!
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Old 08-20-2019, 05:20 PM   #460
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I own a 2011 Plasma Blue Pearl STI Hatch and wish I had a clean white one just like yours. Nice build!
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Old 08-20-2019, 06:32 PM   #461
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The Cusco steering rack brace is a good addition. You should try it if you get a chance. I felt my steering was way more responsive after putting it in with the Cusco crossmember power brace for the front of the car.

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I had the 16 STi rack installed in my 09 hatch and after the initial install everything was tight and amazing. After a few days though, things seemed to have settled down and it felt more comparable to stock. Dont get me wrong, it was better than stock but not as noticeable as I thought or hoped. If it were like the first couple days after getting it installed, that would've been wonderful.

Mine needed some modification but I dont know what was done. It was cheaper than the direct replacement so it was a no brainers to upgrade it.
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Old 08-23-2019, 12:59 PM   #462
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So I went to install the s206 dash trim yesterday since I kept lusting after yours, and my dumb self didn't realize it doesn't fit over the USDM OEM navi HU. Oh well, good excuse to upgrade my HU!
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Old 08-25-2019, 02:46 PM   #463
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I had the 16 STi rack installed in my 09 hatch and after the initial install everything was tight and amazing. After a few days though, things seemed to have settled down and it felt more comparable to stock. Dont get me wrong, it was better than stock but not as noticeable as I thought or hoped. If it were like the first couple days after getting it installed, that would've been wonderful.

Mine needed some modification but I dont know what was done. It was cheaper than the direct replacement so it was a no brainers to upgrade it.
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I just ordered the rack and took it to a local shop. I don’t believe I had to order anything else.
Thank you both. I’m gonna see what R/T Tuning would charge me to put the 15+ steering rack in mine.

A quick google search brought up this comparison:
The 2015+ STI's steering is very quick; the ratio 13.0:1 and 2.5 turns lock to lock. The 2008-2104 STI had a ratio of 15.0:1 and 2.8 turns lock-to-lock.

Combined with the GTSPEC steering wheel which is a smaller diameter than stock, I think this thing will feel very tight. I would probably upgrade the steering rack bushings at the same time. Assuming it would be 15+ bushings at that point?
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Old 08-25-2019, 02:59 PM   #464
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Glad to hear that the washer issue is finally resolved.

I know what you mean about missing your car. I swapped cars with my brother in law yesterday for a fun Sunday drive. He has a Challenger R/T. While the NA V8 is fun and feels beastly, all I could think of the whole time was "man, I wish I was driving my own car right now, it is so much better than this"
Lol. Couldn’t agree more. I love driving my wife’s car, but my STI feels like a raw race car in comparison. Definitely a bit more of a fun factor rowing through the gears.

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I had a 2015+ rack installed in my 2005 WRX a few years back. The feel was great. It was a real improvement. I did the swap because the stock rack was leaking badly, so, I needed a new one regardless (the 2015+ rack cost the same as other Subaru racks, so it was a no-brainer going with it). The 2015+ rack does provide better weight, precision and on center feel, but, at +-$1,000 after installation, I would probably opt to put my dollars into other upgrades first if your stock rack is still in good shape.

Not sure what install would cost, but Whiteline rack bushings might be another option to look at depending on how you are allocating your budget.
I think I might look into both.

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Curious to hear what you think about the XB fogs. I’d like to get those eventually but I wonder if they are worth it.
They aren’t terribly expensive given the improved performance. I do prefer the aesthetics of the stock chrome housing with the yellow LaminX compared to the black housings of the XB’s with the yellow LaminX. The stockers look a bit more full yellow evenly throughout the foglight lens. But my god, what a difference in light output. You can actually see them while driving as opposed to just having fogs for looks. Definitely the right choice for maximum light output and worry free from all future burning of the LaminX film.

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Personally, I think the white stars suit your car very well, as it flows seamlessly with the theme. I am 50/50 on the white vs black stars on the front, but, I think the white stars are for sure the way to go in the rear.
That’s exactly how I feel about it. Black with white stars looks perfect on the rear. I feel like a prefer the Black on a Black star badge on the front when I’m standing super close to the car. But it’s too dark for my color scheme from a distance. That’s when I prefer the black with white stars. So you can actually tell what it is.
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Old 08-25-2019, 03:09 PM   #465
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With regards to the 2015 rack, I just installed mine and it's literally drop in. I set the toe myself and haven't had any issues.
Nice! Another vote for the 15+ rack

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One of my favorite cars on here, such a well executed build. Picked up a 2013 hatch of my own about a month ago and hoping it ends up looking as good as yours! I went for silver though, I don't like washing my car enough to go for white. Sub'd!
Thanks for the support! Congrats on the new ride. These cars look great in silver. You plan on keeping the chrome headlights? Always thought the chrome flowed the best on the silver cars.

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I own a 2011 Plasma Blue Pearl STI Hatch and wish I had a clean white one just like yours. Nice build!
Wanna trade? If I could do it all over again I’d get PBP in a heartbeat.

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The Cusco steering rack brace is a good addition. You should try it if you get a chance. I felt my steering was way more responsive after putting it in with the Cusco crossmember power brace for the front of the car.
I’m gonna need the whole Cusco line. Lol. Any increase in NVH with the steering rack brace and the crossmember power brace?
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Old 08-25-2019, 03:10 PM   #466
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So I went to install the s206 dash trim yesterday since I kept lusting after yours, and my dumb self didn't realize it doesn't fit over the USDM OEM navi HU. Oh well, good excuse to upgrade my HU!
Lol. Dang it! Sorry man. I knew it was a different fit, but didn’t realize it doesn’t work with the OEM navi.
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Old 08-26-2019, 09:21 AM   #467
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Some pics of the new lighting:

Morimoto XB LED Fogs w / yellow LaminX film


Chargespeed LED Rear Bumper Reflectors


Chargespeed LED Rear Bumper Reflectors

The rear bumper reflectors are my favorite thing I added during this last install. They look so clean and make the rear bumper area look a little higher end. I also love the independent foglight mod. This allows me to have my fogs on whenever I want regardless of if my headlights are on or not. But probably the most noticeable is when you turn the high beams on, the fogs stay on. This really increases the light output especially with the added lumens from the new foglights.

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Old 08-26-2019, 10:09 AM   #468
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Which foglight mod did you wind up doing? DIY or has someone come up with something better?
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Old 08-26-2019, 04:27 PM   #469
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Which foglight mod did you wind up doing? DIY or has someone come up with something better?
We followed this DIY:
https://forums.nasioc.com/forums/sho....php?t=2758896
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Old 08-27-2019, 06:32 PM   #470
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Nice! Another vote for the 15+ rack

I’m gonna need the whole Cusco line. Lol. Any increase in NVH with the steering rack brace and the crossmember power brace?
Only a very very mild amount for the crossmember power brace. If you get a chance, do some fender braces too. I loved mine and they increased steering response by quite a bit.
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Hey Quak, are the alignment specs on the first page what you're running for the ZE40s?

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Asking because I'm working on figuring out if it's possible to fit a set of NT03s I have onto my '13 STI, and they're retracted by 1mm for the outer position compared to your ZE40s. (18x9.5 +30 vs your 18x10 +35)

Both your front and rear fenders are rolled, do you get any rubbing at this point? How are your tires wearing with the -2.8 in the front? Annnnd, hows the ride with those alignment specs?

If I didn't already have this set of wheels from my previous car, I probably wouldn't be trying this lol. But, thanks in advance for any help!
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Hey Quak, are the alignment specs on the first page what you're running for the ZE40s?



Asking because I'm working on figuring out if it's possible to fit a set of NT03s I have onto my '13 STI, and they're retracted by 1mm for the outer position compared to your ZE40s. (18x9.5 +30 vs your 18x10 +35)

Both your front and rear fenders are rolled, do you get any rubbing at this point? How are your tires wearing with the -2.8 in the front? Annnnd, hows the ride with those alignment specs?

If I didn't already have this set of wheels from my previous car, I probably wouldn't be trying this lol. But, thanks in advance for any help!
Yes, my alignment specs are the same for both winter and summer setups.

What size tire are you trying to run on your wheels?

My first set of CE’s were 18x9.5 +28. I’m running a 245/40/18 for winter. Since I had my suspension lowered to fit my summer setup (265/35/18), the winter setup (245’s) were slightly taller and would rub on my fender liner. Not on the fenders themselves.

I’m raising my front suspension in the next few weeks (1/4”) to account for the extra sidewall height and eliminate the minor rubbing I get on the fender liners. Which will free up even more room on my summer setup. Raising the front might have me able to dial out a little less camber up front closer to -2.5. But we’ll see.

No crazy camber wear since both my winters and summer have decent wear ratings. I only run Max Performance Summers, not Extreme Performance Summers. And my winters are only on 4 months a year. Averaging 8k mi per year.

Ride quality is great. I stand by the Feal 441 Coilovers. And again, running Max Performance instead of Extreme Performance tires increases ride quality/comfort.
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Old 09-09-2019, 02:14 PM   #473
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Yes, my alignment specs are the same for both winter and summer setups.

What size tire are you trying to run on your wheels?

My first set of CE’s were 18x9.5 +28. I’m running a 245/40/18 for winter. Since I had my suspension lowered to fit my summer setup (265/35/18), the winter setup (245’s) were slightly taller and would rub on my fender liner. Not on the fenders themselves.

I’m raising my front suspension in the next few weeks (1/4”) to account for the extra sidewall height and eliminate the minor rubbing I get on the fender liners. Which will free up even more room on my summer setup. Raising the front might have me able to dial out a little less camber up front closer to -2.5. But we’ll see.

No crazy camber wear since both my winters and summer have decent wear ratings. I only run Max Performance Summers, not Extreme Performance Summers. And my winters are only on 4 months a year. Averaging 8k mi per year.

Ride quality is great. I stand by the Feal 441 Coilovers. And again, running Max Performance instead of Extreme Performance tires increases ride quality/comfort.
Good to know, thanks for the info!

I'd be running 265/35s on the 18x9.5 +40 NT03s, but the front will need a spacer to clear the Brembos, so the offset will be +30 up front. I probably wouldn't be going very low in the future, but I want to be sure that this is the right path to take before fully comitting. I'm considering swapping in a set of 15+ struts/springs that would lower the GR by 25mm/1" or so just to eliminate some wheel gap while retaining OEM ride quality, but that would limit height adjustment to just swapping springs instead of the full adjustments of a coil, so I'm trying to get as much info as possible.

It's nice to know that you're not getting any crazy wear where you are with your alignment right now, ideally I'd like to be around -2.5 at most but we'll see what it actually needs once it's all together I suppose, but your setup gives me some hope that this isn't impossible. The 265 I have currently is a Continental DWS06, so an all season, but moving to summer tires and swapping winters onto my BBS would be the eventual plan.
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Old 09-10-2019, 10:12 AM   #474
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Good to know, thanks for the info!

I'd be running 265/35s on the 18x9.5 +40 NT03s, but the front will need a spacer to clear the Brembos, so the offset will be +30 up front. I probably wouldn't be going very low in the future, but I want to be sure that this is the right path to take before fully comitting. I'm considering swapping in a set of 15+ struts/springs that would lower the GR by 25mm/1" or so just to eliminate some wheel gap while retaining OEM ride quality, but that would limit height adjustment to just swapping springs instead of the full adjustments of a coil, so I'm trying to get as much info as possible.

It's nice to know that you're not getting any crazy wear where you are with your alignment right now, ideally I'd like to be around -2.5 at most but we'll see what it actually needs once it's all together I suppose, but your setup gives me some hope that this isn't impossible. The 265 I have currently is a Continental DWS06, so an all season, but moving to summer tires and swapping winters onto my BBS would be the eventual plan.
Check out Lancaster on here. His IG username is awdsom. He runs the 15+ struts/springs on his ’14 WRX/STI. He also has 18x9.5 wheels with 265/35/18 tires. I think you could get what you need to know from his setup.

My main question would be, what camber adjustability would there be up front on stock style suspension? Perhaps he can shed some light for you.
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Check out Lancaster on here. His IG username is awdsom.
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