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Old 09-21-2018, 08:46 PM   #876
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I'd be quite happy if they kept Monaco but did something crazy with the start order.

Do normal qualyfing. Then whomever is fastest walks into one of the Casinos and spins the Roulette wheel. If the ball lands on black normal grid. If the ball lands on Red, reverse grid. If the ball lands on green some kind of random grid.

Reverse grid would be exciting because someone might pass someone. Plus the Roulette spin and all the betting that would take place in that one spin would make awesome TV.

Comentator, "Lewis, what are you betting on?"
HAM "I'm betting 'Pass' man."
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Old 09-25-2018, 10:25 AM   #877
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Giovinazzi gets Sauber 2019 drive:

https://www.crash.net/f1/news/906187...race-seat-2019

Sauber has confirmed that Antonio Giovinazzi will step up to a full-time Formula 1 race seat for the 2019 season, partnering Kimi Raikkonen.

Giovinazzi made two F1 race starts for Sauber at the beginning of 2017, deputising for the injured Pascal Wehrlein, but has since served as Ferrari's reserve and development driver.

The Italian has made two FP1 appearances for Sauber so far this year and was known to be in the running for a seat with the team for 2019, but has now been officially confirmed as its second driver for next season.



Giovinazzi will partner the already-announced Kimi Raikkonen, marking an all-new line-up for Sauber next year.


"I am delighted to be joining the Alfa Romeo Sauber F1 Team. This is a dream come true, and it is a great pleasure to have the chance to race for this team," Giovinazzi said.

"As an Italian, it is a huge honour for me to represent a brand as iconic and successful as Alfa Romeo in our sport. I would like to thank the Scuderia Ferrari and the Alfa Romeo Sauber F1 Team for giving me this great opportunity. I am very motivated and cannot wait to start working towards achieving great results together.”

Sauber team principal Frederic Vasseur added: “We are very pleased to reveal the complete driver line-up for the 2019 season. We first signed Kimi Räikkönen, an extremely experienced driver who will contribute to the development of our car and will accelerate the progress of our team as a whole.

"Together with Alfa Romeo, we are delighted to welcome Antonio Giovinazzi, who will take the place of Charles Leclerc. We have already had the opportunity to work with him in the past and he has proven to have great potential. We are very determined and motivated. Our target is to continue progressing and fighting together for positions that count.”

Charles Leclerc has already been confirmed as Raikkonen's replacement at Ferrari, but Giovinazzi's appointment leaves Marcus Ericsson without a seat, putting the Swede at risk of not being on the grid next year.

The 2019 Sauber drive will mark Giovinazzi's first full-season race programme in three years, with his last campaign coming in 2016 when he finished as runner-up in GP2 behind Pierre Gasly.

Giovinazzi has since only entered three races - the two F1 starts with Sauber, plus this year's 24 Hours of Le Mans - but has featured in a number of F1 tests and practice sessions.
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Old 09-25-2018, 10:29 AM   #878
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Finally, the reign of Ericsson is over! I suddenly find myself a Sauber fan, what a great lineup.
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Old 09-25-2018, 04:41 PM   #879
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Here here.

I'v gone so red blooded, me from 15 years ago would laugh. Luckily Haas makes it all fit.
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Haas are retaining Gro & Mag for 2019.
Nothing official on Torpedo Man yet.
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Old 09-28-2018, 11:47 AM   #881
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Haas are retaining Gro & Mag for 2019.
Nothing official on Torpedo Man yet.
I know Grosjean has been driving better in recent races, but I was kinda hoping to see Haas pick up Ocon. Though I don't know if that was really an option with Ocon being Merc driver. I don't know if they'd prioritize Ocon not driving the enemy engine over Ocon just having a seat in a somewhat competitive car. In theory there is still a seat at Williams with a Merc engine, right?
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Old 09-28-2018, 02:04 PM   #882
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It's great that the big teams have junior programs and bring up young talent so we don't have all pay drivers, but the double edged sword is if there's no seats available when your junior career is over (or if you get a random boot like Ocon), you're screwed. You're not allowed to consider more than half the grid because of your manufacturer backing. Lets look at the grid shall we:

Mercedes - (has a junior program)
Ferrari - (has a junior program)
Renault - (no junior program I'm aware of)
Red Bull - (has a junior program)
McLaren - (has a junior program)
Toro Rosso - (RBR junior program)
Haas - Ferrari customer team
Sauber - Ferrari customer team
Force India - Mercedes customer team
Williams - Mercedes customer team

So a Mercedes junior like Ocon who gets shafted at Force India basically only has Williams as an option. The other teams have their own junior programs or are customers of a rival engine manufacturer. So there's no chance Toro Rosso or Haas would take him on. His only chance is an independent team like McLaren (where he's already been deemed too tall for their chassis after a seat fitting). His only chance is Williams and they just said he fits in their chassis, but they need him to stuff $20million in his race suit.

While these junior programs help the problem of pay drivers to an extent by investing in the careers of their own juniors, those juniors then only really have the possibility of 2 or 3 teams if they make it to F1, drastically limiting their chances.
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Old 09-28-2018, 02:43 PM   #883
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Maybe if F1 had a spending limit and the smaller teams could keep up it would help with the "paying driver" situation. When Ferrari and Mercedes spend more on salary for Vettel and Hamilton than Sauber or Williams have for a total annual budget you know the sport has a problem. The smaller teams depend on drivers bringing sponsors and money with them. The big teams throw money around like it doesn't matter.
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Old 09-29-2018, 02:04 PM   #884
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The grid:


Pos Driver Team
1 Bottas Mercedes
2 Hamilton Mercedes
3 Vettel Ferrari
4 Raikkonen Ferrari
5 Magnussen Haas
6 Ocon Force India
7 Leclerc Sauber
8 Perez Force India
9 Grosjean Haas
10 Ericsson Sauber
11 Verstappen Red Bull
12 Ricciardo Red Bull
13 Gasly Toro Rosso
14 Sainz Renault
15 Hulkenberg Renault
16 Hartley Toro Rosso
17 Alonso McLaren
18 Sirotkin Williams
19 Vandoorne McLaren
20 Stroll Williams


Lots of penalties. Not sure about the middle of the grid.

TORPEDOMAN is BACK for 2019:
http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/...iil-kvyat-2019
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I know Grosjean has been driving better in recent races, but I was kinda hoping to see Haas pick up Ocon. Though I don't know if that was really an option with Ocon being Merc driver. I don't know if they'd prioritize Ocon not driving the enemy engine over Ocon just having a seat in a somewhat competitive car. In theory there is still a seat at Williams with a Merc engine, right?
Nothing on Williams lineup. I'm guessing they are going to sellout to the highest bidder. Sirokin might still be under contract through 2019.
Tough being a Mercedes driver these days.
First Wehrlein now Ocon.
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Old 09-30-2018, 04:08 AM   #886
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Damn, Jan's kid sure has been impressing lately, in quali.

Is this race going to be watchable? Anyone?

Also, budget cap is a no brainer, also probably impossible without major concorde changes.
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Damn, Jan's kid sure has been impressing lately, in quali.

Is this race going to be watchable? Anyone?

Also, budget cap is a no brainer, also probably impossible without major concorde changes.

I'm expecting Lewis to take off and Bottas to lead a slow train. Hope I'm wrong.
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snore.

For once Ferrari got it right, Mercedes got it wrong again.

Somehow the Ferrari is no longer the superior car - Mercedes pulled it altogether and that car is seemingly so much better balanced than the Ferrari.
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snore.

For once Ferrari got it right, Mercedes got it wrong again.

Somehow the Ferrari is no longer the superior car - Mercedes pulled it altogether and that car is seemingly so much better balanced than the Ferrari.
the Ferrari never was the superior car
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Pos Driver Team
1 Hamilton Mercedes
2 Bottas Mercedes
3 Vettel Ferrari
4 Raikkonen Ferrari
5 Verstappen Red Bull
6 Ricciardo Red Bull
7 Leclerc Sauber
8 Magnussen Haas
9 Ocon Force India
10 Perez Force India
11 Grosjean Haas
12 Hulkenberg Renault
13 Ericsson Sauber
14 Alonso McLaren
15 Stroll Williams
16 Vandoorne McLaren
17 Sainz Renault
18 Sirotkin Williams
Gasly Toro Rosso
Hartley Toro Rosso

Bottas gives Hami the win.
Ferrari was a little slow on Vettel's pitstop (2.8 sec) Hami was 2.5 sec Kimi's 2.4 sec. A better time could've keep Hammi behind.
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the Ferrari never was the superior car
For three races it was.
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Max was fun to watch....

Then I got some ice-cream and almost forgot to return to watch.
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Didn't understand Max's pit strategy.Thought he was going to blitz the field on hypersofts but he just gave up after the stop.
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snore.

For once Ferrari got it right, Mercedes got it wrong again.

Somehow the Ferrari is no longer the superior car - Mercedes pulled it altogether and that car is seemingly so much better balanced than the Ferrari.
I think that the new Ferrari aero package that was debuted there was not what they were expecting at all. They were just lacking pace in comparison to the Mercedes.
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For three races it was.
That may have been track dependent. Either way, it was clearly a flash in the pan and we're squarely back in the snoozefest of 5 straight years of Mercedes dominance. Ferrari gave it a good fight halfway through the season but she's dead, Jim.

Bummed for Bottas but not going to freak out about it. Lewis needs the points more and a 1-2 is a 1-2 regardless. Everybody knows he "won" and he didn't risk his position in the team by disobeying team orders. Incredible first stint by Max but it appears they didn't challenge after the pit stop in order to save the engine. At most he could have caught Kimi and battled for one more position but he was quite a ways up the road (at least 10secs if my memory serves).

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/13...to-save-engine

Compared to the previous races in Russia, this was mind-blowing. One pass last year was a disgrace. They should have been embarassed to sell tickets to that.

Unrelated to the race, my wife went to the bar with her friend last night who's mom is a doctor and they were discussing keeping people alive who have no quality of life or even consciousness. She was telling me about it and blew my mind when she dropped Jules Bianchi's name on me in addition to Schumacher.

On to Suzuka!
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I'm expecting Lewis to take off and Bottas to lead a slow train. Hope I'm wrong.
And there I was being all negative , Ferrari didn't have to be held up.
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I'm imagining Bottas in the off-season sitting on a beach, cocktail in hand...he turns his head and Rosberg knowing gives him a nod, lifts his glass, and in union they say, "**** that guy".

Were I Paul Di Resta I'd probably get fired as my post-race interview would have asked Lewis how he set a new race lap record on blistered tires which needed to be "protected".
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I think too much is being made of team orders nowadays. F1 has always been a no1/no2 sport and this idea that drivers should be treated equally is BS. Hamilton is their no1 and Bottas' job is to support him. They shouldn't have to even tell Bottas to move over, he should do it on his own tbh.
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Well, he's definitely not going to do it on his own, that's for sure. But yes, this isn't a big deal. We just live in a world where everyone has an opinion and feels their collective voice has any merit whatsoever, when it's nothing more than an ant shouting at a tiger. "Let's get a hashtag going to show our displeasure with Mercedes and Toto!" I don't like Merc or Hamilton, nor is Bottas my homeboy, but it all seems logical and makes sense. A VET win and HAM DNF in Japan and they'd be looking at an 18pt gap with 4 races to go, rather than a full 25pts. Really easy decision, pragmatically. It just triggers the emotional button of who "deserves" what or what's "fair." Mix in driver loyalty/hatred and you just get a bunch of anonymous keyboard whining from every corner of the internet. I don't know how the official social media directors can handle it, honestly. I'd honestly post it up and only make replies from other verified accounts visible if possible.
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teamorder is fine and ok, bull**** explanations and lies are not. Toto Wolff is an *******, pure and simple.
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