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Old 09-21-2018, 11:03 PM   #26
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So you want it to have a dedicated chassis and lots of aluminum construction? Then you would be complaining that it's a $40k USD car.
The Miata has been doing it all this time and convertibles are even more expensive to produce... and Mazda is a tiny company. Surprise, the Miata is also more capable than the BRZ has ever been.

Not aluminum construction.. but some lightweight suspension parts would be nice. The BRZ has economy car stamped steel control arms and subframes.. which is worse than forged steel, which is worse than cast aluminum, which is worse than forged aluminum. Stop making excuses for mediocrity.
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Old 09-22-2018, 12:38 AM   #27
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... Surprise, the Miata is also more capable than the BRZ has ever been....
Would you elaborate? Not disagreeing or anything(I don't have a lot of seat time in a Miata); but, most any comparo I've read, they choose the BRZ except where a turbo and topless are included. Is that what you meant?
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Old 09-23-2018, 03:10 PM   #28
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Would you elaborate? Not disagreeing or anything(I don't have a lot of seat time in a Miata); but, most any comparo I've read, they choose the BRZ except where a turbo and topless are included. Is that what you meant?
For 2019, Mazda "massaged" their 2.0L and went from 155-hp with a 6800 rpm redline to 181-hp with a 7500 rpm redline.
So, I think comparos are going to have a different outcome as far as power/engines are concerned.
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Old 09-23-2018, 06:10 PM   #29
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For 2019, Mazda "massaged" their 2.0L and went from 155-hp with a 6800 rpm redline to 181-hp with a 7500 rpm redline.
So, I think comparos are going to have a different outcome as far as power/engines are concerned.
I think the Miata is known to be a guilty pleasure of auto journalists, whereas the BRZ (FR-S) is what seems like a side project. In other words, the Miata has had a LOT of time to garner favor with those who like this kind of vehicle; the BRZ (FR-S) is kind of the new kid on the block - an unknown...still.

The Miata has the advantage and big shoes to emulate.
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For 2019, Mazda "massaged" their 2.0L and went from 155-hp with a 6800 rpm redline to 181-hp with a 7500 rpm redline.
So, I think comparos are going to have a different outcome as far as power/engines are concerned.
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