2024 WRX TR spec - Page 23

Straight6 · 11-30-2023, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Russ_G93

God.. this is like when they advertised the 86 for track use, Owners use their free track day and then boom, oil starvation. I would have made the video on a Canyon road, as that would be a more "realistic" use of the brake package.

Yeah it is just a commercial. Not out of line what other manufacturers are doing. Realistically none of these cars are really ready for heavy track use without some modifications. For example, check out SG video in reference to the GRC on YT when you get some time:

"What is odd to me is that they had to have known these issues and just chose to release it anyway. During press launch they chose a track where you didn't get a full lap and then forced a cool down in the pits. So, some it is making sense. Clearly if track is important check this car off list""

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samagon · 11-30-2023, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Russ_G93

God.. this is like when they advertised the 86 for track use, Owners use their free track day and then boom, oil starvation. I would have made the video on a Canyon road, as that would be a more "realistic" use of the brake package.

in that regard, I'm massively happy to own a car that markets track driving, and when it fails at the track, it just turns off AWD, rather than grenading the motor.

at any rate, I'm excited for the possibility of Subaru having a car that competes a bit better. the price has to be right (under 40k) for it to be something that will really push other manufacturers to do better.

Snow Drift · 11-30-2023, 07:54 PM

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samagon · 11-30-2023, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Snow Drift

More on Insta.

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Kostamojen · 11-30-2023, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Snow Drift

More on Insta.

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I'm with the one guy wondering where everyone is getting the $45k price from, since Subaru hasn't announced it yet.

(Yes I know where, from one of the magazines who said it as a "guess")

Straight6 · 11-30-2023, 10:01 PM

Love it !

Snow Drift · 12-01-2023, 10:25 AM

I wish it had a TR badge or something. It just looks like a normal WRX, besides the massive rims and Brembos. For the money, give us a badge lol.

SCRAPPYDO · 12-04-2023, 03:04 PM

Its ugly with wheels... Seriously.

Russ_G93 · 12-04-2023, 04:33 PM

Wait, I have a question. Was the brake package for the VA (as an added option) not well received? I know you could get it with the 2020 version. Im just surprised they didn't keep it as an added package, unless Brembo had some parts availability issues?

fredzy · 12-05-2023, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Russ_G93

Wait, I have a question. Was the brake package for the VA (as an added option) not well received? I know you could get it with the 2020 version. Im just surprised they didn't keep it as an added package, unless Brembo had some parts availability issues?

It's something they add down the road to keep the model line fresh and people interested. Somewhat like a mid-cyle refresh. Becomes a bit of a must-have for performancey people.

Snow Drift · 12-05-2023, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Russ_G93

Wait, I have a question. Was the brake package for the VA (as an added option) not well received? I know you could get it with the 2020 version. Im just surprised they didn't keep it as an added package, unless Brembo had some parts availability issues?

Everything was production limited in 2021.

It was an option for the Premium WRX, which might be a hard sell. Premium buyers are trying to save money, so it’s an odd group to upsell.

TR is at least going after the spenders.

dwf137 · 12-05-2023, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Kostamojen

I'm with the one guy wondering where everyone is getting the $45k price from, since Subaru hasn't announced it yet.

(Yes I know where, from one of the magazines who said it as a "guess")

WRX GT is 43K. This is pretty much the same, just different transmission. Add dollars for next model year, and 45K seems 100% reasonable.

Kostamojen · 12-05-2023, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by dwf137

WRX GT is 43K. This is pretty much the same, just different transmission. Add dollars for next model year, and 45K seems 100% reasonable.

Subtract CVT and adjustable dampers, should be less than the GT even with the brakes.

Snow Drift · 12-05-2023, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Kostamojen

Subtract CVT and adjustable dampers, should be less than the GT even with the brakes.

And sunroof.

SCRAPPYDO · 12-06-2023, 11:08 AM

THey want to apply the Porsche Model. Make you pay more for less. Don't want a rear seat you say? that will be 2000 extra. Don't want that radio, okay, we will not install it, that will cost you 5000 more.

NO power windows, well that will be 10000 for the fabric pull chord, but we will let you pick the color..... for a 500 dollar upcharge.

SCRAPPYDO · 12-06-2023, 11:08 AM

THey want to apply the Porsche Model. Make you pay more for less. Don't want a rear seat you say? that will be 2000 extra. Don't want that radio, okay, we will not install it, that will cost you 5000 more.

NO power windows, well that will be 10000 for the fabric pull chord, but we will let you pick the color..... for a 500 dollar upcharge.

Hoplite · 12-06-2023, 11:37 AM

They need to come to the hard realization that they are not and never will be porsche level of prestige/desire/whatever you want to classify it as.

JustyWRC · 12-06-2023, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoplite

They need to come to the hard realization that they are not and never will be porsche level of prestige/desire/whatever you want to classify it as.

Unfortunately it doesn't really matter. If people keep buying them. They believe in that....

OldBlu · 12-07-2023, 11:21 AM

Maybe the TR isn't getting loud badges so the buyers don't get shamed too often for spending $45k+ on a WRX.

Russ_G93 · 12-07-2023, 02:03 PM

This 1000% seems to be the case. Theyre out here throwing badges on Sport / Wilderness models yet for the WRX, just plain jane in the back. Only way you can tell a GT from a Ltd is the slightly lighter.. same style as a Premium, wheel; Which in and of itself is pretty lazy to me. They could have at least made the blacked out grill and Light up front emblem standard on the higher models.. or literally anything.
Meanwhile Cars like the Forester and Outback have Onyx/Sport/Wilderness differentiation (I actually enjoy what comes on a Forester Sport, just wish it was an XT). Hell, they gave a smidge of effort for the Legacy Sport (a lower vol. selling car).

samagon · 12-07-2023, 02:07 PM

Subaru's problem isn't that they try to be Porsche, their problem is that while the base WRX has stayed as fantastically priced as it was in 2002 (2002 base MSRP was 23,900). there was no premium, limited, TR, GT, just sedan/wagon, manual/auto.

and those options changed the price by $1000. sure, there were some PIO kits, and things like that, but the thing is now, you have all these different trims, Subaru started involving trims, but they started out being $1000-1500 difference from the lower trims.

now there's anywhere from $3000 to $5000 difference in trims. so as you start looking at the higher trims, it just starts to look out of line with other options in those price ranges.

samagon · 12-07-2023, 02:07 PM

on the other hand, today the base model is cheaper than inflation would suggest it should be, so base model is still great value for money, and I'd even go as far as saying the Premium trim is worth it for what you get, even though it's a lot over what the base costs.

but as is said, as long as people are buying the Limited and GT (and soon to be the TR) for so much over the base, then Subaru has no reason to change, and indeed they will continue to build space between the trims until they see the sales start to falter in an unpredictable way, and then they'll start working the cost gaps between trims closer.

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11-30-2023, 07:54 PM	#553
Snow Drift Scooby Specialist Member#: 75071 Join Date: Nov 2004 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Long Island Vehicle: AR Giulia,Tesla MY Old: 05 08 11 WRX, 18 STI	More on Insta. https://www.instagram.com/reel/C0Se3u1M7BL/?igshid=ODhhZWM5NmIwOQ==

11-30-2023, 10:01 PM	#556
Straight6 Scooby Specialist Member#: 419593 Join Date: Apr 2015	Love it !

12-01-2023, 10:25 AM	#557
Snow Drift Scooby Specialist Member#: 75071 Join Date: Nov 2004 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Long Island Vehicle: AR Giulia,Tesla MY Old: 05 08 11 WRX, 18 STI	I wish it had a TR badge or something. It just looks like a normal WRX, besides the massive rims and Brembos. For the money, give us a badge lol.

12-04-2023, 03:04 PM	#558
SCRAPPYDO Scooby Guru Member#: 873 Join Date: Feb 2000 Chapter/Region: TXIC Location: www.testdrivemylife.com Vehicle: 2020 JEEP / RAM Datsun 71 240Z & 68 2000	Its ugly with wheels... Seriously.

12-04-2023, 04:33 PM	#559
Russ_G93 Scooby Newbie Member#: 528403 Join Date: Jan 2022 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: NorCal Vehicle: 22' WR-HikingShoe 23' F250, 18' Q5, 18' CRV	Wait, I have a question. Was the brake package for the VA (as an added option) not well received? I know you could get it with the 2020 version. Im just surprised they didn't keep it as an added package, unless Brembo had some parts availability issues?

12-06-2023, 11:08 AM	#565
SCRAPPYDO Scooby Guru Member#: 873 Join Date: Feb 2000 Chapter/Region: TXIC Location: www.testdrivemylife.com Vehicle: 2020 JEEP / RAM Datsun 71 240Z & 68 2000	THey want to apply the Porsche Model. Make you pay more for less. Don't want a rear seat you say? that will be 2000 extra. Don't want that radio, okay, we will not install it, that will cost you 5000 more. NO power windows, well that will be 10000 for the fabric pull chord, but we will let you pick the color..... for a 500 dollar upcharge.

12-06-2023, 11:08 AM	#566
SCRAPPYDO Scooby Guru Member#: 873 Join Date: Feb 2000 Chapter/Region: TXIC Location: www.testdrivemylife.com Vehicle: 2020 JEEP / RAM Datsun 71 240Z & 68 2000	THey want to apply the Porsche Model. Make you pay more for less. Don't want a rear seat you say? that will be 2000 extra. Don't want that radio, okay, we will not install it, that will cost you 5000 more. NO power windows, well that will be 10000 for the fabric pull chord, but we will let you pick the color..... for a 500 dollar upcharge.

12-06-2023, 11:37 AM	#567
Hoplite Scooby Newbie Member#: 22244 Join Date: Aug 2002 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: NoVA Vehicle: 2011 Legacy White	They need to come to the hard realization that they are not and never will be porsche level of prestige/desire/whatever you want to classify it as.

12-07-2023, 11:21 AM	#569
OldBlu Scooby Newbie Member#: 527735 Join Date: Dec 2021	Maybe the TR isn't getting loud badges so the buyers don't get shamed too often for spending $45k+ on a WRX.

12-07-2023, 02:03 PM	#570
Russ_G93 Scooby Newbie Member#: 528403 Join Date: Jan 2022 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: NorCal Vehicle: 22' WR-HikingShoe 23' F250, 18' Q5, 18' CRV	This 1000% seems to be the case. Theyre out here throwing badges on Sport / Wilderness models yet for the WRX, just plain jane in the back. Only way you can tell a GT from a Ltd is the slightly lighter.. same style as a Premium, wheel; Which in and of itself is pretty lazy to me. They could have at least made the blacked out grill and Light up front emblem standard on the higher models.. or literally anything. Meanwhile Cars like the Forester and Outback have Onyx/Sport/Wilderness differentiation (I actually enjoy what comes on a Forester Sport, just wish it was an XT). Hell, they gave a smidge of effort for the Legacy Sport (a lower vol. selling car).

12-07-2023, 02:07 PM	#571
samagon Scooby Guru Member#: 26859 Join Date: Oct 2002 Chapter/Region: TXIC Location: undisputed COMBAT! champion Vehicle: of TXIC I also like (oYo)!!!!	Subaru's problem isn't that they try to be Porsche, their problem is that while the base WRX has stayed as fantastically priced as it was in 2002 (2002 base MSRP was 23,900). there was no premium, limited, TR, GT, just sedan/wagon, manual/auto. and those options changed the price by $1000. sure, there were some PIO kits, and things like that, but the thing is now, you have all these different trims, Subaru started involving trims, but they started out being $1000-1500 difference from the lower trims. now there's anywhere from $3000 to $5000 difference in trims. so as you start looking at the higher trims, it just starts to look out of line with other options in those price ranges.

12-07-2023, 02:07 PM	#572
samagon Scooby Guru Member#: 26859 Join Date: Oct 2002 Chapter/Region: TXIC Location: undisputed COMBAT! champion Vehicle: of TXIC I also like (oYo)!!!!	on the other hand, today the base model is cheaper than inflation would suggest it should be, so base model is still great value for money, and I'd even go as far as saying the Premium trim is worth it for what you get, even though it's a lot over what the base costs. but as is said, as long as people are buying the Limited and GT (and soon to be the TR) for so much over the base, then Subaru has no reason to change, and indeed they will continue to build space between the trims until they see the sales start to falter in an unpredictable way, and then they'll start working the cost gaps between trims closer.