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Old 01-17-2017, 12:22 PM   #26
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http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...-ford-mustang/

GT PP gets magna ride, direct and port injection both, exhaust outlet a la GT350, new bumper design, and looks like a new head unit. That's a hell of an update. Going to direct and port injection is the bomb.
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Old 01-17-2017, 12:38 PM   #27
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http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...-ford-mustang/

GT PP gets magna ride, direct and port injection both, exhaust outlet a la GT350, new bumper design, and looks like a new head unit. That's a hell of an update. Going to direct and port injection is the bomb.
It's a very nice refresh. I would guess higher RPM redline and increased horsepower/torque maybe? Magnaride is awesome..

I would have loved to have seen some weight reduction but will have to wait for next generation.

Not much to complain about, but I do wonder what the MSRP will be on a loaded up GT. The incentives help but I suspect price increase...
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Old 01-17-2017, 12:50 PM   #28
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Very nice update - await comparos with the SS - decklid spoiler reminds me of the last Fox body cobra '92-'93ish? Pony wars alive and well.
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Old 01-17-2017, 01:14 PM   #29
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It's a very nice refresh. I would guess higher RPM redline and increased horsepower/torque maybe? Magnaride is awesome..

I would have loved to have seen some weight reduction but will have to wait for next generation.

Not much to complain about, but I do wonder what the MSRP will be on a loaded up GT. The incentives help but I suspect price increase...
Starting to sound like a 2 car/vehicle setup dude. Us cheapskates would have to wait out the herd until they start dealing on these. Magna ride, hp/mpg bump, exhaust switch, hell of a way to get most of the 350 without the price. Pick a DD in the meantime
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Old 01-17-2017, 01:20 PM   #30
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Starting to sound like a 2 car/vehicle setup dude. Us cheapskates would have to wait out the herd until they start dealing on these. Magna ride, hp/mpg bump, exhaust switch, hell of a way to get most of the 350 without the price. Pick a DD in the meantime
Yeah I am sure Chevy just got more nervous with this news.... Lot of car for the money.. But..

I also am starting to see low mileage C7 Vette's going for very low $40k's and it might be possible to negotiate to high $30k's...

Should still have more power than the GT and weigh considerably less...
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Old 01-17-2017, 01:38 PM   #31
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KEY CHANGES
  • 2018 Mustang offers an EcoBoost and GT model only. V6 is gone.
  • All models get revised shocks, increased lateral stiffness, and revised stabilizer bars (base suspension improvements said to be on par with the previous optional performance suspension)
  • MagneRide adaptive dampers available on both EcoBoost and GT Performance Packs (will be matched with and tuned for, less spring compared to GT350's MagneRide suspension)
  • 5.0-liter V8 and 2.3-liter EcoBoost will both get power increases (exact HP/TQ increases not yet released)
  • Performance Package available on automatic and/or convertible Mustangs (no need to choose anymore)
  • The 2018 Mustang GT gets an updated 5.0-liter Coyote V8 with both port and direct fuel injection which allows Ford to increase the V8's compression ratio from 11.0:1 to 12.0:1.
  • Available six-speed manual transmission for both GT and EcoBoost (with twin-disc clutch and new dual mass flywheel on the Mustang GT)
  • 10-speed optional automatic transmission available for both models - shorter first gear and wider overall gear spread compared to the outgoing auto. Will stay in first gear for extra hard launches. Selecting Sport and Track mode will lock out 10th gear and hold gears for longer
  • GT Performance Package receives Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires
  • EcoBoost Performance Package retains Pirelli P-Zeros
  • Mustang GT gets optional active exhaust
  • 10 new wheel designs, 12 in total, including several wheels that are stand-alone options.

Cosmetic changes:
  • Refined aerodynamics to reduce coefficient drag and better balance lift at high speeds
  • 20mm lowered hood
  • New lower rear diffuser
  • New decklid wing on Performance Package models

Interior/Technology
  • New 12-inch all-digital instrument cluster with 3 modes (Normal, Sport, Track) replaces analog speedo and tachometer
  • Mustang MyMode with memory function saves favorite drive settings including suspension, steering preferences, active exhaust valve behavior, and other preferences. Selectable with the steering wheel controls and the main gauge display.
  • Pre-Collision Assist with pedestrian detect, distance alert, lane departure warning, lane keeping assist and driver alert system
  • Ford SYNC Connect with FordPass to start, lock, unlock and locate your car
  • Center console adds new hand-stitched wrap with contrast stitching and padded knee bolsters
  • Door handles, rings and bezels are finished in aluminum.
  • Restyled seating surfaces feature new patterns and color choices (premium-trim seats get blue or red accent trimming)
  • Instrument panel with updated Mustang badge
  • Optional heated steering wheel
  • New key fob design

Mustang EcoBoost New Features
  • Limited-duration overboost function adds more torque
  • Revised shocks, increased lateral stiffness, and revised stabilizer bars
  • MagneRide damper technology optional on Performance Package
  • 6-speed manual transmission upgraded for optimal torque
  • New 10-speed automatic transmission for quicker shift times, better low-speed tip-in response and reduced friction losses
  • Standard dual-tip exhaust
  • All-LED front lights including signature lighting, low-beams, turn signals, efficient projector high-beams and available fog lamps.
  • Available performance spoiler
  • On sale in North America in Fall 2017

Mustang GT New Features
  • More powerful and revs higher (full details yet to be released)
  • New dual-fuel, high-pressure direct injection and low-pressure port fuel injection delivers robust low-end torque, high-rpm power, and improved fuel efficiency
  • Optional active valve exhaust system with fully variable soundtrack to match entire acceleration range
  • Revised shocks, increased lateral stiffness, and revised stabilizer bars
  • MagneRide damper technology optional on Performance Package
  • 6-speed manual transmission upgraded for optimal torque. Totally redesigned to include twin-disc clutch and dual-mass flywheel to increase torque capability and more efficient clutch modulation (increases compression ratio from 11.0:1 to 12.0:1)
  • New 10-speed automatic transmission for quicker shift times, better low-speed tip-in response and reduced friction losses
  • Standard quad-tip exhaust
  • All-LED front lights including signature lighting, low-beams, turn signals, efficient projector high-beams and available fog lamps.
  • Available performance spoiler
  • GT Performance Package receives Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires
  • On sale in North America in Fall 2017
Performance Notes:
The GT Performance Pack with MagneRide should be faster than the 2012-2013 Mustang Boss 302.

Available Colors:
G1 SHADOW BLACK
H3 TRIPLE YELLOW
J7 MAGNETIC MET
L6 KONA BLUE (New)
NL ORANGE FURY (New)
N6 LIGHTNING BLUE
PQ RACE RED
RR RUBY RED TINT
R3 ROYAL CRIMSON (New)
UX INGOT SILVER
YZ OXFORD WHITE
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Old 01-17-2017, 01:55 PM   #32
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I like the front refresh. Saleenish.

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Old 01-17-2017, 02:21 PM   #33
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Some nice tech updates, I wonder how much more power this will add.
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Old 01-17-2017, 02:32 PM   #34
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Old 01-17-2017, 02:32 PM   #35
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Been loving what ford has been doing with the GT. I really think i might end up in one if the 2020 STi doesn't pan out.
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Old 01-17-2017, 02:49 PM   #36
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I figured it would be a matter of time until Ford added DI to the Coyote engine given the power advantage of the Camaro. It will be interesting to see how much more power this change will be good for.

Makes me want to get into another Mustang. I expect a fully loaded GT with the suspension, LCD display, 10-speed, etc is going to come in fairly pricey for a Mustang but it's just a matter of buying one at the time of year where rebates are at their highest.
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Old 01-17-2017, 03:29 PM   #37
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Its a good set of upgrades for sure.

How many other dual-injection V8's are there now?
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Old 01-17-2017, 03:31 PM   #38
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Don't care for the digital dash and I think the front end is a little smooth. I'm sure I'll have to reserve final judgement until seeing in person.
In the meantime, I still like mine.
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Old 01-17-2017, 03:36 PM   #39
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Some nice tech updates, I wonder how much more power this will add.
The Ecoboost one should at least match the Focus RS.
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Old 01-17-2017, 04:42 PM   #40
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I figured it would be a matter of time until Ford added DI to the Coyote engine given the power advantage of the Camaro. It will be interesting to see how much more power this change will be good for.
With the CR change, I think that would be good for 475hp; enough to put it on par with the Camaro (LT1 is significantly underrated, hence why it beats the current Coyote so badly).

I dig the refresh, they finally improved the headlights which bugged me before. Now they just need to add a better looking steering wheel and I'm in.
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Old 01-17-2017, 04:45 PM   #41
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Its a good set of upgrades for sure.

How many other dual-injection V8's are there now?
Lexus 2UR family still has 16 injectors. German offerings are DI-only at this point I believe.
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Old 01-17-2017, 08:09 PM   #42
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Unless that "upgraded" transmission includes dumping the MT82... .
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Old 01-17-2017, 09:03 PM   #43
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Don't really see why they went to all this trouble unless it was some kind of pride thing. The Mustang will either get more expensive or eat into the profit margins.

It was already beating the crap out of Camaro and Challenger in sales.
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With the CR change, I think that would be good for 475hp; enough to put it on par with the Camaro (LT1 is significantly underrated, hence why it beats the current Coyote so badly).
Probably closer to 455-460hp, but I'm willing to be wrong.

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Don't really see why they went to all this trouble unless it was some kind of pride thing. The Mustang will either get more expensive or eat into the profit margins.
Yes, it will likely get more expensive. As I understand it, Ford is attempting to move it upmarket a bit.
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Don't really see why they went to all this trouble unless it was some kind of pride thing. The Mustang will either get more expensive or eat into the profit margins.

It was already beating the crap out of Camaro and Challenger in sales.
Because they aren't Subaru. It's a matter of pride for Ford. They don't do like Subaru does and sit on the fence. Chevy is making moves and they want to compete. And we all get the benefits.

The port and direct injection is awesome. HP will go up, AND mpg when your foot is out of it. Manual transmission remains an option and they beefed that up too. Kudos to them. The pony lives and now it breathes more fire.
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Old 01-18-2017, 07:42 AM   #46
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Very nice update by Ford. The front nose/lights look much better, although I still wish the car was a foot or two smaller.
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Old 01-18-2017, 09:32 AM   #47
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Glad to see this, not that I'm looking at one, but man is that a nice piece of kit.
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Old 01-18-2017, 11:40 AM   #48
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Because they aren't Subaru. It's a matter of pride for Ford. They don't do like Subaru does and sit on the fence. Chevy is making moves and they want to compete. And we all get the benefits.

The port and direct injection is awesome. HP will go up, AND mpg when your foot is out of it. Manual transmission remains an option and they beefed that up too. Kudos to them. The pony lives and now it breathes more fire.
To be fair Subaru does not have a budget as large as Ford. However, I'm not complaining since these Mustang - Camaro wars are good for us consumers.
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Lexus 2UR family still has 16 injectors. German offerings are DI-only at this point I believe.
Audi uses dual injection on the V10 R8 and I presume its Lamborghini equivalent.
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Audi uses dual injection on the V10 R8 and I presume its Lamborghini equivalent.
Well...that's an Italian engine right? The point stands.

20 injectors? Jesus.
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