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Scooby Newbie
Member#: 9689
Join Date: Aug 2001
Chapter/Region:
MAIC
Vehicle:1998 Legacy GT Silver |
![]() This is info I got from a local dealer here in Central PA. (In writing)
In Year 2002: MY03-Forester is all new-larger model MY03-Brat "STX" Truck Model Fall 2003 Legacy/Outback Face lift In Year 2003: MY04-Impreza STI Model - 270HP ![]() MY04-Forester Turbo In Year 2004: MY05-Legacy GT gets Turbo ![]() In Year 2005: MY06-All new Impreza Body MY06-Multi-sport SUV with GM Joint Venture *GM owns 20% of Fuji ![]() No prices were given, but the salesman assured me that this was all true and that it was info that salespeople had gotten from SOA in a meeting. So, start saving the cashish! |
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#2 |
Scooby Guru
Member#: 1904
Join Date: Jul 2000
Chapter/Region:
TXIC
Location: Austin, TX
Vehicle:2017 Impreza Sport E36 M3/4/5 |
![]() there's only one thing the dealer can say they know for sure... FHI is part owned by GM.
As for the other stuf...ugh, don't believe it. It's been proven many times over that the dealerships don't know anything about the future of these cars. But I'll tell ya, it would be nice to finally get all the turbo models here. ![]() |
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#3 |
What?...
Do they speak English in What? Moderator Member#: 1459
Join Date: May 2000
Chapter/Region:
Tri-State
Location: Allentown
Vehicle:2008 WRX 5door MT WR Blue |
![]() My dealer says the Brat and the STi will be hear within the year ...they even are taking orders on the WRX STi models
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#4 | |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 2709
Join Date: Oct 2000
Chapter/Region:
MAIC
Location: Media, PA
Vehicle:2006 WRX Wagon SGM |
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Mike2000GT EDIT... wait a minute... Is this the dealer just north of Lancaster... on Manheim pike? Those guys are a little shady... Of couse a dealer that sells, what... Mercedes or Jags, in the same showroom... I think their priorities were a little off. I'm gonna wait to hear this from elsewere as well. |
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#5 | |
Scooby Guru
Member#: 177
Join Date: Aug 1999
Chapter/Region:
NWIC
Location: Austin, Texas, USA
Vehicle:The 93 W/EJ20K-sold Subaru-less :( |
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edit - or was it nissan either way 25% |
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#6 | |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 9689
Join Date: Aug 2001
Chapter/Region:
MAIC
Vehicle:1998 Legacy GT Silver |
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Hmmm, I hate stealerships! ![]() Can anyone else confirm the Future model info? |
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#7 |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 6732
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Wrigleyville
Vehicle:2002 WRX 5door SOLD! |
![]() Dealers don't know jack unless they have some other contact within the engineering organization. I laugh when dealers tell me false information about cars i've seen or worked on in development. Anything to generate sales traffic.
GM bought Nissan's share of FHI evidentally. We already own 49 of isuzu so if it was isuzu we'd already own half of that 5%. Ryan |
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#8 |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 2709
Join Date: Oct 2000
Chapter/Region:
MAIC
Location: Media, PA
Vehicle:2006 WRX Wagon SGM |
![]() While I havent dealt with the service dept there, I have dealt with the sales reps. Really really typical business practice (once they decide to talk to you again... after you say your not buying a mercedes...)... I make an offer... they make counter offer... I say no, they say... lemme talk to my manager... then they say well how about this... blah blah blah...
I was looking at buying an RS from them, but it turned out they wanted the same price for a demo with 3K on it ( ![]() ![]() Oh... and it took em a week to get a replacement RE92 when I blew a tire from a pothole. Car had ~1K on it. 135$ out the window. ![]() Hope your dealings with them are better than mine. Mike2000GT (is only shopping at Bel Air Subaru, Bel Air, Md... see Peg Emge) |
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#9 |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 9689
Join Date: Aug 2001
Chapter/Region:
MAIC
Vehicle:1998 Legacy GT Silver |
![]() Yeah I've dealt with similar dealers (not Subaru). I hate the "Let me go talk to my manager..." That's about the time I get up and start to walk out the door. I wish my friend still worked at the Suby dealer near Philly. But...well my GF is looking for a new/used Outback Sedan so I test the Lancaster dealer for bs and keep your story in mind.
Although I will still use their service dept. Thanks, |
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#10 |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 7303
Join Date: Jun 2001
Vehicle:2002 WRX Super White Vishnu Stage 0 Plus |
![]() i don't believe 95% of the salepeople's words......
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#11 |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 9797
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: South Carolina
Vehicle:2005 Honda S2000 New Formula Red |
![]() My local dealer may not know what he is talking about, but this is what he said he has heard from different reps. And, I was in the dealership drooling over a 2005 STi they had. So, he obviously was not saying it if he really wanted me to buy this STi they have had on the lot for 3 to 4 months now.
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#12 |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 48928
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Vehicle:'02 WRB WRX Sedan '11 DGM WRX 5dr Premium |
![]() Dealers, by and large, are less informed than the average internet user.
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#13 | |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 24820
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Nothing to do with reality
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Scooby Newbie
Member#: 480592
Join Date: Jan 2018
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#15 |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 20733
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Pittsburgh, pennsylvania
Vehicle:2015 Impreza WRX Crystal White Pearl |
![]() i had a dealer once say STi is never coming....that was in like...02 o 03... idiot
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#16 | |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 8267
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Houston
Vehicle:2010 MB E63 Black on Silver |
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#17 | |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 105602
Join Date: Jan 2006
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Weird. My dealer totally told me the STis were making it to the States. |
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#18 | |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 118000
Join Date: Jun 2006
Chapter/Region:
Tri-State
Location: Long Island, Ny
Vehicle:04 STi Java Black Pearl |
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#19 |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 96060
Join Date: Sep 2005
Chapter/Region:
MAIC
Location: RVA
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![]() last '06 I test drove, salesman made a point to tell me how much they changed the car from my 05, he also bragged about them going to a 3 cyl. in the WRX for MY06!
![]() Let's guess where I'm not buying my next car. The guy was kinda creepy too. |
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#20 |
Scooby Guru
Member#: 4419
Join Date: Feb 2001
Chapter/Region:
MWSOC
Location: Carol Stream, IL
Vehicle:2002 S2K - 2013 ISP i don't have a wrx |
![]() i hear it will have all wheel drive
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#21 | |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 18453
Join Date: May 2002
Chapter/Region:
NESIC
Location: MASS
Vehicle:MY02 WRX Sport Wagon |
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The spare too! My dealer says the Japanese are geniuses at figuring this kind of stuff out. ![]() speaker |
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#22 |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 11882
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Cincinnati, OH
Vehicle:2002 WRX WR Blue |
![]() I am speculating like everyone else, but I think Subaru has to put the 250hp Legacy GT engine in the standard WRX soon to stay competitive with a EVO RS, etc. (a well equiped WRX can easily get into the upper 20's which is about what an EVO RS lists for). If the WRX has the 250hp Legacy engine, I think it would require Subaru to push the STI's power up some to justify the price difference between the STI and the WRX. I don't know if this means 400hp but I could definitly see 350hp or so. The above is purely wishfull thinking, but I think required to continue selling the WRX for close to $30k and the STI for almost $35K. Also keep in mind that much has changed since the WRX came out in '01. We now have EVO's, MazdaSpeed 6's, Altima's with 255hp, etc. It seems that all cars are getting much faster and the WRX is not the standout it once was.
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#23 | |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 48928
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Vehicle:'02 WRB WRX Sedan '11 DGM WRX 5dr Premium |
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The WRX and Evo RS are not competitors. First off, the RS is being made in very limited quantities (less than 1,000 a year). Second, it's a complete stripper. It's built to be the basis of a rally car build up. The WRX is a daily driver with creature comforts. That said, I do think the WRX is going to get the Legacy GT's drivetrain. Though, I'm 50/50 on whether it will recieve the same state of tune. I'm expecting slightly less than the 250/250 numbers from the GT, at least on paper. My call for the new impreza line. Impreza RS - further tweaks will give us about 175hp on the NA 2.5L Impreza WRX - about 235hp/240lb-ft toruqe on paper (in reality, it will basically be the same as the Legacy GT) Impreza WRX STi - 320hp/310 lb-ft torque. |
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 38727
Join Date: Jun 2003
Chapter/Region:
TXIC
Location: Clear Lake, TX
Vehicle:2008 Legacy QSM |
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 65951
Join Date: Jul 2004
Chapter/Region:
TXIC
Location: Pearland,TX
Vehicle:02' e46 ///M3 Imola Red |
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