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Old 10-13-2017, 06:14 PM   #26
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I have owned pretty much every platform of the latest VW's starting with the MKII and they were absolute nightmares out of warranty. This is a great move on their part to extend the warranty but I still wouldn't buy one. I almost (dodged a bullet there) got a 6 speed MK7 GTI when they came out....ooooofff their resale value absolutely plummeted after the diesel scandal and they love to eat turbos and clutches for lunch till this day.
You keep saying this but I'm having the exact opposite experience. Perhaps it's because I learned from my first year MKV nightmare and didn't buy the first year MKVII. Do you buy first years every time?
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Old 10-13-2017, 06:38 PM   #27
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You keep saying this but I'm having the exact opposite experience. Perhaps it's because I learned from my first year MKV nightmare and didn't buy the first year MKVII. Do you buy first years every time?
Keep saying what ? I bought a first year WRX and it has been bulletproof and leagues above any of my VW's in terms of mechanical engineering and quality and I don't even like Subaru as a brand.
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Old 10-13-2017, 07:06 PM   #28
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Keep saying what ?
You regurgitate these talking points in multiple threads.

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DSG makes more sense in this car. If you read the recent C&D article test notes it states "impossible to launch, clutch failure". It is just something to keep in mind. My other worry would be the turbo failure but that is a perfect excuse to go IS38 hehehe. Enjoy the car, I love them.

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I bought a first year WRX and it has been bulletproof and leagues above any of my VW's in terms of mechanical engineering and quality and I don't even like Subaru as a brand.
C'mon. Really? Because you had a bad clutch and a bad turbo now Subaru is leagues above VW in quality? There are tons of internet complaints of premature failed clutches in 2015 WRX's. The dual clutch in my GTI has been flawless and it's not a garbage but according to you superior mechanically engineered CVT. VF Subaru turbos have a long history of premature failure. Lot's of $$$ to fix a turbo Subaru out of warranty when something goes out of spec.
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Old 10-13-2017, 07:21 PM   #29
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C'mon. Really? Because you had a bad clutch and a bad turbo now Subaru is leagues above VW in quality? There are tons of internet complaints of premature failed clutches in 2015 WRX's. The dual clutch in my GTI has been flawless and it's not a garbage but according to you superior mechanically engineered CVT. VF Subaru turbos have a long history of premature failure. Lot's of $$$ to fix a turbo Subaru out of warranty when something goes out of spec.
Please point out these "multiple threads" that you are referring to ? I spent the vast majority of my time on this site in the FA20DIT forum, ironically people that no longer own a Subaru love to post here rather frequently, lol. I wonder why (they always come back!). You seem to take my posts way too personal. I have nothing against the GTI, in fact I think it is by far the best car in this class and all I am doing is just sharing my experience here. I was referring to manual cars. Of course the DSG is superior to the CVT.
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Old 10-13-2017, 07:42 PM   #30
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I just quoted you in another thread. I've been back and forth with you in a third thread about the same thing. I'd consider that multiple threads of you sharing your awful experience of buying first year VW's. Having gone through that nightmare myself I know what you're talking about. So just tell people to avoid first year VW's because their suppliers and factories aren't up to snuff for the model changeovers. Subaru very well could be better in this regard, but like I said, people have formal and internet complaints regarding failed clutches in 2015 WRXs. Just because yours is fine, doesn't mean it's not an issue.

It's nothing personal. I have no issues with my GTI and you seem to think they eat things and are nightmares and lose their value so stay away. I bought low and will drive the car how I see fit and when the warranty runs out I'll go from there. I've dumped a ton of money into my other car, which is a turbo Subaru that is out of warranty. Do I keep coming back to Subaru? I've never left for over 20 years because I'm a multi-car household and want AWD couch carrying kid cruiser as the other vehicle. The turbo is a boon and a bane. I love hate Subaru prolly how you love hate VW.
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I just quoted you in another thread. I've been back and forth with you in a third thread about the same thing. I'd consider that multiple threads of you sharing your awful experience of buying first year VW's. Having gone through that nightmare myself I know what you're talking about. So just tell people to avoid first year VW's because their suppliers and factories aren't up to snuff for the model changeovers. Subaru very well could be better in this regard, but like I said, people have formal and internet complaints regarding failed clutches in 2015 WRXs. Just because yours is fine, doesn't mean it's not an issue.

It's nothing personal. I have no issues with my GTI and you seem to think they eat things and are nightmares and lose their value so stay away. I bought low and will drive the car how I see fit and when the warranty runs out I'll go from there. I've dumped a ton of money into my other car, which is a turbo Subaru that is out of warranty. Do I keep coming back to Subaru? I've never left for over 20 years because I'm a multi-car household and want AWD couch carrying kid cruiser as the other vehicle. The turbo is a boon and a bane. I love hate Subaru prolly how you love hate VW.
Hehehe all good man. Like I said before I am GTI guy at heart myself and a DSG GTI with an IS38 swap sounds amazing to me. It is a great platform for sure but it does have some faults. Same with the WRX. Again I was just sharing my personal experiences with the brand. My posts came out more negative than they meant to be.
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Old 10-14-2017, 11:19 AM   #32
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I'm a multi-car household and want AWD couch carrying kid cruiser as the other vehicle.
maybe sell both cars and get a new golf r with the longer warranty. get a beater truck or rent a truck from home depot the few times a decade you need to haul a couch (unless you are a one man professional "small moves" company)
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Old 10-14-2017, 02:12 PM   #33
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maybe sell both cars and get a new golf r with the longer warranty. get a beater truck or rent a truck from home depot the few times a decade you need to haul a couch (unless you are a one man professional "small moves" company)
Why? I need two cars and they're paid for and do everything I need them to. I'm not complaining about fixing the Legacy. I'm pointing out every turbo car requires $$ to maintain and fix when the warranty runs out. It's not just a scary VW. I love hate Subaru because they didn't offer us the Levorg for me to replace my LGT wagon with. The Golf R doesn't make sense being it costs nearly twice what a GTI costs to achieve the same purpose for me, and is never in stock where I live.

I could literally keep my GTI and buy another GTI with a longer warranty for the same out of pocket of buying a Golf R and park the Legacy for moving duties. It's only got 89k on the clock and I can fit my 8' couch in it.
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Old 10-14-2017, 04:09 PM   #34
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I'm not sure where people get the idea that VW is improving reliability. Their long term (i.e., 3 year in service) reliability continues to remain well below the industry average and Audi continues to slip.

http://www.jdpower.com/press-release...dability-study
Couldn't be any worse than the Ford I currently own and their graph there bears that out. People swear by Subaru for their reliability and they're just as bad as VW is.
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Old 10-14-2017, 07:56 PM   #35
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It has a lot to do with how you drive the vehicle.

My mom drives her forester like an old lady and things never break.

I do not drive like an old lady and stuff breaks.

That being said our beetle was a ****ing nightmare. Our Hyundai has been fairly trouble free. The Boss has been trouble free except for the chinese weld that broke in the transmission.
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