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Old 04-23-2019, 03:10 AM   #1
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I have to be that guy, sorry. Mainly the weather in the lower mainland confuses me. One year you'll see 2 specks of snow and wear your tshirt on every other day, another year you'll get a few weeks of snow proper. Then there's the mild winter day, but you want to go into the mountains where you meet true winter.. till the interior anyway lol.

I don't know if I should get proper summer performance tires and some cheaper just in case winters. Or does it make more sense to get high performance all seasons like the Pilot sport a/s +3 and just deal with the drop off in snow traction which I think should be manageable considering I can do it in my FWD beater. I'm not sure how good performance tires would be all winter even if it doesn't snow but temps hover around 0 degrees for a while. Or how much difference there is in the summer between good summer tires and good all seasons.

It's so much easier when you know for certain that winter will come lol
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Old 04-23-2019, 06:58 AM   #2
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Depends on you preferred style of driving and budget.

Iíve had 2 sets of A/S 3+ís a good all round tire. Stands up to spirited driving , will pull in light snow, much more and 2-3 in and itís at its limits.

This year went the other direction and extremes, Falken 615K for summer and blizzak WS80 for winter on different wheel sets; And just run the WS80 year round on the wifeís car.

The confidence in Wet/Slush/Snow on a really good snow tire is fantastic in winter. Then the massive grip of a full on performance tire in summer.

Basically buy tires based on how and when you want to drive the car, you like winter driving buy better snow tires, like summer backroad mountain driving or auto-x buy better summer tires. The more focused discipline of tire will make the feedback in feel of the car miles above any one tire trying to do everything.
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Old 04-23-2019, 05:59 PM   #3
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If you just stay in the city all year around then just do with all seasons or all weather if you don't want to bother with having 2 sets of wheels and tires. But if you plan to go out of town between Nov - Apr, then you should look at owning a set of proper snow tires. Also owning a Subaru and not driving in snow is a shame hahaha. Performance winter tires is good enough for lower mainland snow, but don't count on them for going up the Coquihalla and beyond.
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Old 04-23-2019, 06:03 PM   #4
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If youre gonna go with all seasons, why didnt you just buy a base impreza.

All seasons are a crappy compromise. Buy a good summer, and a good winter. Switch to the winter tire for when temps are below 40F, and back again when they rise above 40F. Get the best performance all the time with that method, rather than mediocre performance all the time.
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Old 04-23-2019, 06:06 PM   #5
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Snow tires aren't just for *snow*. The compound is designed for cold temperatures. An all season is not.

Also all seasons suck in .5 inches of snow, and in 1 inch and in 2 inch compared to snow tires. There are so many other variables that contribute to the coefficient of friction between your tire and whatever surface it is on than just the depth.
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Old 04-23-2019, 11:11 PM   #6
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Hahaha, forgive my blasphemous thoughts, I should probably lend my wrx away for a few months to teach me a lesson. I just am so used to 2 sets I wasn't sure the winters made sense. I understand the compounds are different, but I also spent my first winter here in a tshirt and hoodie, where I'm from that's warm and you ditch the winters. Anyway, thank you all for the info it helped a lot, and the dressing down, I deserved it.. bad me!!
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Old 04-27-2019, 01:20 AM   #7
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Don't be so hard on yourself. It depends on what you want to do with your car. If it is your daily driver, as your subject line implies, then why not just go with a quality all season like the Michelin A/S 3+'s? Personally I have the Continental Extreme Contact DWS 06 on my car. I've got no complaints. On dry and wet pavement, it grips great, just fine for some "spirited driving". In the snow, it is also an advantage over regular cheap all season tires. Of course, we are driving Subaru cars, so really you don't have to worry about getting stuck, just braking, like any other car out there.

If you are auto crossing or doing track days, then yeah, by all means get some crazy grippy rubber with a tread wear rating of 80. But if you are a normal person who just wants to drive your car every day and have a little fun, why buy tires that are going to be worn out after 10,000 kms? As for winter tires, well I'm not going to say they are a waste of money. They definitely give you an advantage on the ice.
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Old 04-27-2019, 02:58 AM   #8
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I have tried both all seasons and summer tires. I think it is a waste to put all season tires on a sport car because you pay all that money for the sports car, but then your tires take away so much of that performance.

Unless you just do normal city driving without any spirited driving, then I would say spend the extra money to have a set of winter or more extreme all-seasons for winter time, and then for spring/summer/fall use the summer tires. You will not regret it!

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Old 04-27-2019, 09:40 AM   #9
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I went with the General G-Max all seasons. Very happy with them so far and not expensive. I live in the south though so no snow.
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Don't be so hard on yourself. It depends on what you want to do with your car. If it is your daily driver, as your subject line implies, then why not just go with a quality all season like the Michelin A/S 3+'s? Personally I have the Continental Extreme Contact DWS 06 on my car. I've got no complaints. On dry and wet pavement, it grips great, just fine for some "spirited driving". In the snow, it is also an advantage over regular cheap all season tires. Of course, we are driving Subaru cars, so really you don't have to worry about getting stuck, just braking, like any other car out there.

If you are auto crossing or doing track days, then yeah, by all means get some crazy grippy rubber with a tread wear rating of 80. But if you are a normal person who just wants to drive your car every day and have a little fun, why buy tires that are going to be worn out after 10,000 kms? As for winter tires, well I'm not going to say they are a waste of money. They definitely give you an advantage on the ice.
Nobody said he needed to get R-comps. S-drives and Indy 500's are a cheap summer tire with decent wear. Tires make such a massive difference and those two summers perform better in this summer at all speeds than any all season. Again, why even buy a WRX if you're gonna just slap all seasons on it.
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Old 05-01-2019, 08:43 PM   #11
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Nobody said he needed to get R-comps. S-drives and Indy 500's are a cheap summer tire with decent wear. Tires make such a massive difference and those two summers perform better in this summer at all speeds than any all season. Again, why even buy a WRX if you're gonna just slap all seasons on it.


My point exactly.You lose so many feathered the car was designed to take advantage (braking and suspension).
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Old 05-22-2019, 01:07 AM   #12
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Hahaha, forgive my blasphemous thoughts, I should probably lend my wrx away for a few months to teach me a lesson. I just am so used to 2 sets I wasn't sure the winters made sense. I understand the compounds are different, but I also spent my first winter here in a tshirt and hoodie, where I'm from that's warm and you ditch the winters. Anyway, thank you all for the info it helped a lot, and the dressing down, I deserved it.. bad me!!
This is why i myself an sti driver owner and motoring fan don't go to clubs, meets or so much as comment usually. Probability of being treated like you were born yesterday is high. Can't even ask what type of tires you can reasonably expect to get around with.

As for myself i have the 18" factory wheels. I use the same wheel with a dedicated winter when it's cool enough out or starts getting nippy in the fall. In the summer months dedicated performance summer tires.

Imo the more you pay the more you get for grip yada yada. You know the usual pitch. Expensive is nice, cheap is always a gamble some you win but you really don't want to lose.... control.
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Old 05-25-2019, 01:26 AM   #13
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I appreciate all your guys' input, thank you
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