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Old 06-23-2017, 09:19 AM   #1
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Subaru EyeSight System Adds Touring Assist Autonomous Cruise Control



Subaru has introduced a major update to its EyeSight camera safety system in Japan, adding autonomous cruise control capabilities to the existing safety systems for the Japanese market.

Called Touring Assist, the new function allows automated control of acceleration, steering and braking, with full stop-and-start capabilities.

Designed to reduce driver effort during highway trips, Touring Assist uses forward-facing stereo cameras to monitor the area ahead of the vehicle and can distinguish traffic, pedestrians, lane markings, and detect brake lights.

The system also uses additional sensors for more accurate information which is then processed into a set of corresponding actions.

Although previous versions of EyeSight have offered Lane Tracing Control, that function could only operate at speeds over 60 km/h. Touring Assist builds on that by operating at all speeds and adding automated steering which follows a lead vehicle within a lane for more accurate placement.

Subaru will launch the new system in Japan on the Levorg wagon and WRX S4 but has yet to announce when the system would be made available on other models or for international markets.

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Sounds very much like Pilot Assist from Volvo which isn't a bad thing at all.

Hopefully we'll get it on the Ascent. It'd be a shame if we don't. Otherwise, I don't see us likely getting it until the Outback/Legacy get put on the SGP.

You need to post the link to your source, Avanti.
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Subaru has introduced a major update to its EyeSight camera safety system in Japan, adding autonomous cruise control capabilities to the existing safety systems for the Japanese market.

Designed to reduce driver effort during highway trips,
Japan has a highway that is so long you can get fatigued?

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Japan has a highway that is so long you can get fatigued?

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Longest is NR4, 462 miles.
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Old 06-26-2017, 08:27 PM   #6
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Longest is NR4, 462 miles.

I've done nearly the entire length of the Tohoku Expressway. I think we hit right at 400miles of the 422. Long. Yes. Good sites though. This system would be nice to me since I like to look. Bad. I know. But, no accidents yet.
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I would just like to get traffic jam assist added to the US version.
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After my experience with Adaptive Cruise Control I'm all for anything that works in heavy traffic. It's amazing.
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Old 06-28-2017, 09:46 AM   #9
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After my experience with Adaptive Cruise Control I'm all for anything that works in heavy traffic. It's amazing.
You, and a growing number of others, are beginning to grasp what I began talking about over four years ago... and got crucified for here. That is, the/my argument for the virtues of the CVT.

The rabid MT or die rhetoric fails to acknowledge what the CVT enables, in total. The major one being EyeSight... which itself seems to suffer a lack of full understanding even among many who now own it. ACC being one of the most obviously used is valued, but the scope of EyeSight's fundamental reason for being, "unused" because it hasn't responded to a potential catastrophe, isn't valued up front.

Like the piece I've carried for over thirty years... EyeSight's best feature is something you hope you never need, but wouldn't be without. The CVT, Subaru's AT, makes it possible... as well as an array of other electronic/mechanical/performance capabilities, again, unavailable with the MT.

Your new car is an example... performing better-than the MT version as well as equipped with ES. ACC is great, getting better, as our vehicles exit the stone age.
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You, and a growing number of others, are beginning to grasp what I began talking about over four years ago... and got crucified for here. That is, the/my argument for the virtues of the CVT.

The rabid MT or die rhetoric fails to acknowledge what the CVT enables, in total. The major one being EyeSight... which itself seems to suffer a lack of full understanding even among many who now own it. ACC being one of the most obviously used is valued, but the scope of EyeSight's fundamental reason for being, "unused" because it hasn't responded to a potential catastrophe, isn't valued up front.

Like the piece I've carried for over thirty years... EyeSight's best feature is something you hope you never need, but wouldn't be without. The CVT, Subaru's AT, makes it possible... as well as an array of other electronic/mechanical/performance capabilities, again, unavailable with the MT.

Your new car is an example... performing better-than the MT version as well as equipped with ES. ACC is great, getting better, as our vehicles exit the stone age.
CVTs are still ****ing terrible. I'll take a good torque converter tranny any day.
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CVTs are still ****ing terrible. I'll take a good torque converter tranny any day.

By what metric?
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I never want to go back to traditional automatics. 6MT or CVT. I do want to try a DCT though.
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I never want to go back to traditional automatics. 6MT or CVT. I do want to try a DCT though.
I would think you need to rethink that. The new 8,9 and 10 speed units are quite impressive. They beat a CVT in every metric including the only one the CVT had going for it, ratio spread. Wait until they dump the torque converter and use a clutch, then the DCT's days are numbered.

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I would think you need to rethink that. The new 8,9 and 10 speed units are quite impressive. They beat a CVT in every metric including the only one the CVT had going for it, ratio spread. Wait until they dump the torque converter and use a clutch, then the DCT's days are numbered.

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Yes, but who is investing in 8-10 speeds? Aren't those the luxury guys? That's a different class of vehicle than what we're here for, which are econobox vehicles.

I only remember reading about MB and a couple others going that high. I honestly don't know if anyone in Subaruís ball park is using them. Feel free to educate me.
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Yes, but who is investing in 8-10 speeds? Aren't those the luxury guys? That's a different class of vehicle than what we're here for, which are econobox vehicles.

I only remember reading about MB and a couple others going that high. I honestly don't know if anyone in Subaru's ball park is using them. Feel free to educate me.
Here you go - https://www.autoevolution.com/news/g...ox-113469.html

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GM Hydra-Matic 9T50 Transmission Confirmed for Chevrolet Cruze, Malibu, Equinox

9 speeds. Too few, too many, you decide. But if Mercedes-Benz went forward with the 9G-Tronic automatic for models such as the W213 E-Class, it's rather clear that 9-speed transmissions are all the rage these days. A more recent case in point comes from GM.

In models such as the 2017 Chevrolet Malibu Premier, 2017 Chevrolet Cruze Hatchback Diesel, and 2018 Chevrolet Equinox Diesel, the all-new GM Hydra-Matic 9T50 transmission is the name of the game. As General Motors points out, the 9-speed automatic is designed with refinement and mileage in mind.

Take the 2017 Chevrolet Malibu Premier as a prime example. Thanks to the wider overall ratio of 7.6:1, the 9T50 transmission helps the 2.0-liter turbo-equipped Malibu return 33 mpg highway. The old 6T45 makes do with an overall ratio of 6.0:1. Don't, however, think that the 9T50 doesn't play ball.

Whereas the tall 0.62 top ratio is designed for low revs at highway speeds, the deep 4.69 first gear ensures capable off-the-line acceleration. "No matter the engine torque or vehicle speed, the 9T50 is always in the perfect gear," declared Dan Nicholson, vice president of GM Global Propulsion Systems.

GM's first application of a selectable one-way clutch is engineered to hold torque or freewheel, eliminating the need for an additional clutch pack. The transmission uses five planetary gearsets, four stationary clutches, and three rotating clutches. In other words, 1st to 2nd is a freewheeling shift, while 2nd to 9th is clutch-to-clutch shifting. Because all applications of the 9T50 are gifted with a stop/start function, General Motors engineered an accumulator within the newly-developed transmission to store energy for engine restarts.

Previewed by the 2017 Opel Insignia Grand Sport, the next-gen Buick Regal in sedan and wagon forms will get the 9T50 as well, in conjunction with the 2.0-liter turbo powerplant. Expect to see the 2018 Buick Regal in production-ready attire late in 2017. By then, General Motors promises to deploy the newest member of the Hydra-Matic transmission family on 10 models.

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Ah, thank. I don't see MB and GM being much of a threat. Too many other companies are investing in CVTs and the ones that aren't don't have anything that an AWD enthusiast would really jump at.

MB did have the little 4-banger sedan that I know people jumped on, but I saw a number of those same people jump back to Subaru or leave MB too.

Chevy has the SS, which appeals because of the manual.

It's just pointless to cater to fickle enthusiasts. Majority of people don't care what kind of automatic transmission they have, as long as the car they want is affordable.

I'd still like to try an auto with twice as many gears as I've experienced, but that's because I'm not an average consumer.
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Who else is investing in the CVTs? Nissan and Subaru are the only manufacturers. Most of the Hybrid vehicles have an CVT with the gas engine and that does seem to be regardless of the manufacturer. But, who else is really investing/pushing them?

Also, Honda just put big money into an in-house designed 10 speed auto. That trans will probably power every FWD application here in the states within a few years. Not quite sure what they are planning with the AWD Pilot though.

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I knew Nissan. I thought Honda too... I could Google it...

When 10-speed autos come on $20k cars I'll try it out and give a review. I doubt it'd be enough to sway me to FWD, but one never knows.
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Toyota uses a CVT for some models like the Corolla.
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You, and a growing number of others, are beginning to grasp what I began talking about over four years ago... and got crucified for here. That is, the/my argument for the virtues of the CVT.

The rabid MT or die rhetoric fails to acknowledge what the CVT enables, in total. The major one being EyeSight... which itself seems to suffer a lack of full understanding even among many who now own it. ACC being one of the most obviously used is valued, but the scope of EyeSight's fundamental reason for being, "unused" because it hasn't responded to a potential catastrophe, isn't valued up front.

Like the piece I've carried for over thirty years... EyeSight's best feature is something you hope you never need, but wouldn't be without. The CVT, Subaru's AT, makes it possible... as well as an array of other electronic/mechanical/performance capabilities, again, unavailable with the MT.

Your new car is an example... performing better-than the MT version as well as equipped with ES. ACC is great, getting better, as our vehicles exit the stone age.
While your opinions are to an extent accurate, the virtues shouldn't be associated to the CVT, but rather the automatic. I can't wait till the day I can get a nice dct in any normal car that actually responds to driver control, that would be amazing. Dct automatics are truly in another realm, and are quite fun. CVT is horrible. I've driven several and they have all been miserable, including Subaru and Toyota. I drive a manual, not because it's somehow better than an automatic (although it is fun to drive), but because I can't get a proper dct auto in a mid-range car that actually responds to driver input within the same minute of that input. In many ways, manuals really are still better than automatics in low and mid range vehicles. I hope this changes some day so I'm not stuck driving something with a torque converter slushbox or CVT.
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Toyota has a direct shift 8at and 10at and used the 6AT from the IS250 for the BRZ/86. I'd think it would be in Subaru's best interest to have EyeSight on all SGP models which is why I believe the WRX STI will have an automatic option.
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Very cool, I Hadn't heard about this. Need to keep up with my suby news more haha
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I would just like to get traffic jam assist added to the US version.
Not the same thing but didn't certain Audis come with Green Light assist or something of that kind that helps you determine what streets have green lights? I'm probably butchering the technology but it was pretty cool when I saw the video of it.
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Not the same thing but didn't certain Audis come with Green Light assist or something of that kind that helps you determine what streets have green lights? I'm probably butchering the technology but it was pretty cool when I saw the video of it.
Somewhat off but that's V2I technology.

https://www.theverge.com/2016/12/12/...raffic-signals
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I knew Nissan. I thought Honda too... I could Google it...

When 10-speed autos come on $20k cars I'll try it out and give a review. I doubt it'd be enough to sway me to FWD, but one never knows.
It's OT but Jeep Renegade in FWD/4x2 gets a 9-speed ZF-designed auto tranny with MSRP at $21.4K.
I'll admit up front that some, if not most people, hate the transverse ZF-designed 9-speed tranny in FCA products .
I had one in a rental Chrysler 200 and I thought it was fine for what I did the car.
However, the longitudinal ZF 8-speed, built by ZF themselves, works really well and is available in all RWD/AWD FCA products.
The cheapest Chargers or Challengers are equipped with it, RAM trucks are equipped with it, it's all over the place.
It has become a commodity item; no longer reserved to BMW, VAG/Audi/Bentley, Jaguar and others.
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