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Old 03-23-2018, 04:36 PM   #1976
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Old 03-23-2018, 07:51 PM   #1977
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https://datazap.me/u/undyjr/intersta...&data=16-17-21

This is a log of my typical 4th gear interstate pull. Been noticing a "step" during the pull. I'm starting to think it's my water meth pump starting full spray which is set at 15#s. What do you guys think?
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Old 03-23-2018, 10:36 PM   #1978
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Hi!

I've waited so many years for my dream car and I finally got it. I read through 75 pages of this thread before I finally pulled the trigger and order my AP from MAP and I have a log. I'm pretty sure it looks great but always willing to have another set of eyes. Huge shoutout to this thread for the wealth of knowledge and MAP for the excellent customer service. This tune really brought the car alive, and thank god for the throttle re-map. so much more driveable.

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https://datazap.me/u/budekai/map-91-....03&tmax=10.99



Edit: And for fun, plugged the runs into VD. Only the last pull (R03) was on a completely flat piece of road.

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Old 03-24-2018, 07:44 AM   #1979
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Ok, how about this one :

https://datazap.me/u/e90/map-v7?log=...-3-10-13-20-27

No bueno ? Too lean ?
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Old 03-25-2018, 01:06 PM   #1980
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Decided to move up to the 93 MAP tune. Here are 3 pulls. R04 is on a flat, smooth road. the others were mixed. Let me know if you see anything to worry about.

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https://datazap.me/u/budekai/map-93-...&data=3-5-7-21
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Old 03-25-2018, 03:26 PM   #1981
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^^Looks good, fueling and everything looks clean.

Now that the daily temps are starting to rise aftermarket ICs are really going to start to shine.
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Old 03-25-2018, 03:29 PM   #1982
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Will be installing GS IC, Jpipe, and flex fuel soon. Stay tuned for more Phatbotti tuned logs...
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Old 03-25-2018, 04:24 PM   #1983
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Wasn't mr.nicknasty8 just saying that these are pulling fuel up top and the AFR is actually more lean (close to 12) than 11.4 it is showing? My MAP logs look almost exactly the same.
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Old 03-25-2018, 06:29 PM   #1984
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This is a log of my typical 4th gear interstate pull. Been noticing a "step" during the pull. I'm starting to think it's my water meth pump starting full spray which is set at 15#s. What do you guys think?
Shouldn’t it be spraying the whole time the throttle is wide open?
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Old 03-25-2018, 07:32 PM   #1985
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Shouldn’t it be spraying the whole time the throttle is wide open?
7#s is low speed pump and 15#s is high speed. This is done through the Snow Performance controller.
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Old 03-25-2018, 07:41 PM   #1986
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Can somebody take a look at this log. Got some fine knock learn in higher rpms. Seemed to learn to 0 pretty quickly.

2018 wrx
MAP stage 1 93 oct
No other mods

I also just sent it over to Ian at MAP.

https://datazap.me/u/mkodada/log-3?log=0&data=5-18

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Old 03-25-2018, 07:47 PM   #1987
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Can somebody take a look at this log. Got some fine knock learn in higher rpms. Seemed to learn to 0 pretty quickly.

2018 wrx
MAP stage 1 93 oct
No other mods

I also just sent it over to Ian at MAP.

https://datazap.me/u/mkodada/log-3?log=0&data=5-18

Thanks


I have a 2018 wrx with the MAP 93 oct too and had fkl in almost the place. Except mine hit -2.8. I reached out to Ian to last week week too but haven’t received any response.

https://datazap.me/u/mp9656/log-1521...=...1-12-13-19

I have a protune scheduled with Bren on 4/11. Going to stick with the Cobb 91 tune until then.
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Old 03-25-2018, 07:50 PM   #1988
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I have a 2018 wrx with the MAP 93 oct too and had fkl in almost the place. Except mine hit -2.8. I reached out to Ian to last week week too but haven’t received any response.

https://datazap.me/u/mp9656/log-1521...=...1-12-13-19

I have a protune scheduled with Bren on 4/11. Going to stick with the Cobb 91 tune until then.


Are you concerned about this. Not getting anything during normal driving. Just going to stay away from WOT.
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Old 03-25-2018, 07:54 PM   #1989
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The new revision of the MAP tune is odd, either your car loves it or your fuel trims get too negative in the higher RPM range.

Anyone know what the safe range is for FA20 Turbo? I assume +/- 8-10% for STFT.

Negative trims are "go lean" and positive are "go rich" most of the logs are pulling fuel out at WOT from what I've seen.

Edit, from COBB:

A/F Correction #1 (A/F Correction 1) -> Short-term (immediate) fueling correction in closed loop based on input from the front oxygen sensor. This is a percentage correction of the injector pulse width base. Positive values indicate fuel is being added as a result of the correction. Negative values indicate fuel is being removed.
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Old 03-25-2018, 08:00 PM   #1990
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The new revision of the MAP tune is odd, either your car loves it or your fuel trims get too negative in the higher RPM range.

Anyone know what the safe range is for FA20 Turbo? I assume +/- 8-10% for STFT.

Negative trims are "go lean" and positive are "go rich" most of the logs are pulling fuel out at WOT from what I've seen.

Edit, from COBB:

A/F Correction #1 (A/F Correction 1) -> Short-term (immediate) fueling correction in closed loop based on input from the front oxygen sensor. This is a percentage correction of the injector pulse width base. Positive values indicate fuel is being added as a result of the correction. Negative values indicate fuel is being removed.


Did my other numbers look ok?

Would you recommend going with the Cobb stage 1 93. Or just stay away from WOT. Not getting any bad readings just that one.
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Did my other numbers look ok?

Would you recommend going with the Cobb stage 1 93. Or just stay away from WOT. Not getting any bad readings just that one.
Just run it. Stop over thinking it.
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The new revision of the MAP tune is odd, either your car loves it or your fuel trims get too negative in the higher RPM range.

Anyone know what the safe range is for FA20 Turbo? I assume +/- 8-10% for STFT.

Negative trims are "go lean" and positive are "go rich" most of the logs are pulling fuel out at WOT from what I've seen.

Edit, from COBB:

A/F Correction #1 (A/F Correction 1) -> Short-term (immediate) fueling correction in closed loop based on input from the front oxygen sensor. This is a percentage correction of the injector pulse width base. Positive values indicate fuel is being added as a result of the correction. Negative values indicate fuel is being removed.
Pretty much every single MAP v7 log I have seen on here, including my own, ends up somewhere in -7 to -10 correction towards the end and 4 to 7 learn @ WOT. I read up on this a little but I am still not sure what to make of it. I haven't see any knock really in my logs but as this was discussed on the previous page, in reality it maybe running close to 12 AFR vs 11.4 it is showing, so way too lean.
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Just run it. Stop over thinking it.


It’s just concerning see those numbers at WOT from what I have researched.
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Old 03-25-2018, 08:28 PM   #1994
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The new revision of the MAP tune is odd, either your car loves it or your fuel trims get too negative in the higher RPM range.

Anyone know what the safe range is for FA20 Turbo? I assume +/- 8-10% for STFT.

Negative trims are "go lean" and positive are "go rich" most of the logs are pulling fuel out at WOT from what I've seen.

Edit, from COBB:

A/F Correction #1 (A/F Correction 1) -> Short-term (immediate) fueling correction in closed loop based on input from the front oxygen sensor. This is a percentage correction of the injector pulse width base. Positive values indicate fuel is being added as a result of the correction. Negative values indicate fuel is being removed.


Sorry little confused so my log is showing a lean AF correction #1 at WOT?

Would you recommend switching to conn stage 1? And is it a good idea to run the 91 oct with 93 to protect further. Really got the AP for increased drive ability.
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It’s just concerning see those numbers at WOT from what I have researched.
If it’s a -4.22 it’s a problem.

Nothing less than that is a problem.
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Old 03-25-2018, 08:35 PM   #1996
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If it’s a -4.22 it’s a problem.



Nothing less than that is a problem.


Probably looking to far into it. To tell you the truth I really never go WOT just did it to do a log.

I will monitor it closely and see what MAP has to say.
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Hey all, just wanted some feedback on a 3rd gear log I ran tonight. Anything look off? Thanks in advance!
Specs: 16 WRX; Cobb OTS Stage 1 91 map; Perrin Charge Pipe; STi SPT catback

https://datazap.me/u/pr0file/32518-c...-5-12-17-18-22
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This is a log of my typical 4th gear interstate pull. Been noticing a "step" during the pull. I'm starting to think it's my water meth pump starting full spray which is set at 15#s. What do you guys think?
Step? Like a miss or knock?
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Old 03-26-2018, 07:33 AM   #1999
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Pretty much every single MAP v7 log I have seen on here, including my own, ends up somewhere in -7 to -10 correction towards the end and 4 to 7 learn @ WOT. I read up on this a little but I am still not sure what to make of it. I haven't see any knock really in my logs but as this was discussed on the previous page, in reality it maybe running close to 12 AFR vs 11.4 it is showing, so way too lean.
-7-10 Correction is nothing. As long as there isn't a large learn condition to go with it. You'll see +/- 10 correction a few times every minute even in solid state driving.
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Step? Like a miss or knock?
No timing was pulled, not that I saw anyway. It could be "J" knock. Maybe the HPFP went into bypass for a moment? It doesn't do it every pull. I was hoping it would show up in the log. Thanks for looking.
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