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05-04-2021, 06:36 AM | #1 | ||
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Why some EV owners are switching back to traditional cars
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05-04-2021, 07:07 AM | #2 |
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05-04-2021, 07:36 AM | #3 |
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If you have at least a level 1 charger at home, you may be fine as long as your commute isn't that long.
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05-04-2021, 08:49 AM | #4 |
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Yeah, it's the infrastructure indeed. I would not want an EV yet unless it was like a hot hatch version of an i3 or something just for fun I would zip around in on the weekends.
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05-05-2021, 06:15 AM | #5 | |
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05-05-2021, 06:59 AM | #6 |
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05-05-2021, 11:34 AM | #7 |
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05-05-2021, 11:39 AM | #8 |
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How many of those "20%" had earlier EVs that had low range that were more compliance vehicles at the time?
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05-05-2021, 12:14 PM | #9 | |
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Yet another way that the push to EV's will disproportionately hurt lower income families that can't afford the house with a yard, a dog, and a white picket fence. |
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05-05-2021, 01:47 PM | #10 | |
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05-05-2021, 01:55 PM | #11 | |
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Average person could do basic 110v charging no problem. Your car sits when you sleep, yes? Ours refuels and magically has a full tank every morning. Seriously, we rarely ever charge anywhere but home. Hell, in 3 years we haven’t even used ChAdEmO (whatever) yet. |
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05-05-2021, 02:06 PM | #12 |
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If I had a 15 mile commute I could see getting a BEV as a second car once prices come down and selection goes up. It will happen over time.
As it stands now I have to fill up the bike after two days of commuting, reserve light comes on at 125 miles. |
05-05-2021, 02:36 PM | #13 |
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05-05-2021, 05:22 PM | #14 |
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The nuts in the neighborhood with 3 EVs (I think every neighborhood has at least one of those) just got an ICE SUV...was shocking.
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05-05-2021, 06:41 PM | #15 |
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There's a guy in the office that just switched from a Model 3 to a Jeep Gladiator of all things but charging wasn't a problem for him as much as the Tesla ownership experience was. One nice thing about our office is that all the parking stalls have their own 120V outlets (because Canada and block heater charging in in the winter).
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05-05-2021, 07:17 PM | #16 |
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I can probably think of 10 or slightly more surgeons that bought Tesla's and have since gone back to their Porsche 911 Turbo / Cayenne / Raptor or other cars. All of them had some form of P series Tesla, all of them agreed it was wicked fast and cool but the fun factor wore off quickly and to them, the quality, misc issues or just plain boredom of driving it caused them to switch.
I do however have a few that have kept them and love them as well. So, different strokes for different folks. |
05-05-2021, 10:35 PM | #17 | |
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05-05-2021, 10:39 PM | #18 |
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Even the model 3 is starting to look a little stale. Now that other automakers are trotting out EV's the model 3 interior is looking worse all the time.
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05-06-2021, 12:00 PM | #19 |
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05-06-2021, 12:11 PM | #20 |
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when there's 3 - 10 or 20 ahead and it takes 45min to 2 hours
they are same as IC pollution well to well sp why are we doing this? Electric motors are great but the batteries big weak point. You won't see all those miracle batteries promising since 90s any time soon. |
05-06-2021, 12:14 PM | #21 |
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05-06-2021, 12:40 PM | #22 | |
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There's another Tesla Supercharger spot in Pismo Beach a little further south. IMO, there's nothing to see here. |
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05-27-2021, 09:10 AM | #23 |
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So I just saw a follow up article by a few sources about the numbers presented in the original claims. Seems like the people who published the "findings" have been stalling for week to provide the source material. I can now see why.
So the 20% was from only people who had changed ownership and had actually responded. Out of the original participants, 95% had NOT changed ownership. So the 20% were of the 5% who had. Out of the 5%, almost all made their original purchase between 2012-2015. So the quality of the offerings during those years were pretty slim. But even given that, the raw numbers are: 3,962 still have there original EVs 166 bought a newer EV 42 switched back to ICE Last edited by mhoward1; 05-27-2021 at 09:22 AM. |
05-27-2021, 09:55 AM | #24 | |
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05-27-2021, 10:00 AM | #25 |
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