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Old 04-23-2019, 11:38 AM   #1
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I've a 2013 Impreza 2.0 wagon, with an inch lift and mud and snow tires (205/70R15 Geolanders), thought it would be smart not to keep switching every season. But the steering is so out of phase that its scary to drive on the freeways (Yes I f**ed up).

Any advice on how I could make it feel better? Spend a couple hundred on new tires and wheels (no summer tires i could find for R15) or stiffen up the suspension (https://forums.nasioc.com/forums/sho....php?t=1725505).
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Old 04-23-2019, 12:25 PM   #2
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Did you get an Alignment?
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Old 04-23-2019, 01:24 PM   #3
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Yeah sound like you need an alignment.
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Old 04-24-2019, 10:15 AM   #4
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Yes I did, twice once after lift then after installing tires
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Old 04-25-2019, 03:13 PM   #5
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Yes I did, twice once after lift then after installing tires
Since two of you suggested I got an alignment. $80 lighter and no change in the steer feel.
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Old 04-26-2019, 11:01 AM   #6
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Those Mud and snow tires are probably not rated for highway speeds
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Have you had someone drive the thing to give you input as to whether it's normal or not? I offroad my Jeep and run taller tires on a lift and it drives and handles very different from stock, but that's completely expected. I'd think your car raised on bigger sidewall tires would do something similar. Be vague, out of phase, boaty. If that's not what you want, lower it back down to stock height and run stock sized wheels and tires.
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You may need subframe spacers
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Old 04-29-2019, 08:50 AM   #9
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If you don't want to drop the car, get 16" wheels with smaller sidewall tires, to keep the same overall diameter as with your 205/70R15 setup, but with rims an inch bigger, you get increased stiffness in the sides. And run proper street/freeway tires with them too.

Sorry to say, but you will need to swap each season. But at least you'll be swapping entire tire/wheel setups instead of getting tires unmounted/remounted every season.

Also, could your lift kit have induced a change in the steering geometry from stock that is affecting how it drives on the freeway? If so, you may need aftermarket suspension components to correct the steering geometry to steer like stock with the 1" lift.
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Yokohama Geolanders - 205/70R15 - 96H SL
Speed rating - "H" - 130mph
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...Standard+Model

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Old 04-29-2019, 09:19 AM   #11
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Have you had someone drive the thing to give you input as to whether it's normal or not? I offroad my Jeep and run taller tires on a lift and it drives and handles very different from stock, but that's completely expected. I'd think your car raised on bigger sidewall tires would do something similar. Be vague, out of phase, boaty. If that's not what you want, lower it back down to stock height and run stock sized wheels and tires.
Thanks, that was going to be last resort but I guess that wasn't the answer I was looking for

Yes, I had my local suabru mechanic go on the freeway

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If you don't want to drop the car, get 16" wheels with smaller sidewall tires, to keep the same overall diameter as with your 205/70R15 setup, but with rims an inch bigger, you get increased stiffness in the sides. And run proper street/freeway tires with them too.

Sorry to say, but you will need to swap each season. But at least you'll be swapping entire tire/wheel setups instead of getting tires unmounted/remounted every season.

Also, could your lift kit have induced a change in the steering geometry from stock that is affecting how it drives on the freeway? If so, you may need aftermarket suspension components to correct the steering geometry to steer like stock with the 1" lift.
I'd like to do the aftermarket suspension route thank you for your response.
I'll keep you guys posted
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Old 04-29-2019, 09:27 AM   #13
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I'd like to do the aftermarket suspension route thank you for your response.
I'll keep you guys posted
Do both. The aftermarket suspension route is more expensive and much more involved work. Change one item there, and you change everything.
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Old 04-30-2019, 02:39 PM   #14
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Do both. The aftermarket suspension route is more expensive and much more involved work. Change one item there, and you change everything.
I've added a steering lockdown dampener (Perrin) in the U-joint, I've noticed improved on-centre feel. Had my local mechanic join this DOE, he confirmed it did.
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Old 04-30-2019, 08:31 PM   #15
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A 1" lift shouldn't affect the driving sensation.. had a 1.25" one on my 2008 for years, and there was no change in how I felt it drives at ALL.

Dumb question but did you check your tyre pressure? The car might be fairly light for large Geolanders, so maybe your contact patch is just too small, thus making it behave as if they were overinflated?
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Old 05-01-2019, 10:09 AM   #16
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A 1" lift shouldn't affect the driving sensation.. had a 1.25" one on my 2008 for years, and there was no change in how I felt it drives at ALL.

Dumb question but did you check your tyre pressure? The car might be fairly light for large Geolanders, so maybe your contact patch is just too small, thus making it behave as if they were overinflated?
I try to keep the pressure on the higher limit of the TPM sensor limit so I dont have to see the light on my dash. But the high end limit for the goelanders is 40psi and the sensor is about 36-37psi. I have it at 36-37psi
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