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Old 02-26-2019, 06:17 AM   #1
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Peugeot is "ideally suited for the North American market," PSA believes.


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France's PSA Group will return to North America with the same brand that it pulled out of the region 28 years ago: Peugeot.

CEO Carlos Tavares pointed to Peugeotís "strong growth" and profitability in revealing the selection Tuesday in Paris. Since announcing its planned return in 2016, PSA has maintained that any of its brands Ė including Citroen, DS and, more recently, Opel Ė might lead the comeback to the U.S. and Canada.

The choice marks a big step on PSA's methodical path toward selling vehicles in a market that it abandoned in 1991. Last fall, Tavares indicated that decisions on a distribution model and where its U.S.-bound vehicles will be built were also likely by mid-year.

The automaker maintains that itís in no hurry. Its only stated time frame is to have vehicles for sale in the U.S. by 2026.

In the meantime, PSA has been focusing on car-sharing and other mobility initiatives. Those efforts have been designed to help PSA understand U.S. consumers while expanding the 130-year-old automakerís expertise in forms of transportation beyond the privately owned car.

Peugeot exited the U.S. market in 1991, driven out by a recession, slumping sales and the rising costs of U.S. regulations. The company had sold just 4,292 cars in 1990, nearly 80 percent below 1984 levels.

Last year, PSA said it had narrowed to 15 states and four Canadian provinces its top picks as possible points of entry for sales. Those states have customers who are willing to buy imports and represent 62 percent of vehicle sales nationwide, the company said.

The automaker has also been in the process of homologating vehicles for the U.S. market, a multi-year process.

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Old 02-26-2019, 07:48 AM   #2
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**assumes fighting lion stance**
Not that I have any interest in their current lineup, but hey, more competition can't be bad right?
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Old 02-26-2019, 09:51 AM   #3
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Big courage going into US market. Perhaps they want to manufacture here for export to France They better have great product and price as Fiat/Alfa seem to be failing.
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I used to lust over the old 206 gti. I remember seeing them all over when I went to London back in 2000.

I really like the design on the new 208, and assuming there would be a higher hp GTI version at some point, that would be a cool car. 308 GTI would be a good competitor to the VW GTI, since there's really no competition in the US for the VW GTI any more.
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Dear Peugeot,

We got all of a Fighting Lion revival that we could stand with the horrific Prince motor in the R56 MINIs. Kindly stay home.. and send Citroen over to play instead.

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Dear Peugeot,

We got all of a Fighting Lion revival that we could stand with the horrific Prince motor in the R56 MINIs. Kindly stay home.. and send Citroen over to play instead.

'Merica
Both Peugeot and CitroŽn still use the Prince-based 1.6T engine in their cars though. And, as far as I know, it's working OK.
Not sure what the deal was with the R56 in the Mini, but Peugeot has gone as far as 270hp with that engine in the 308 GTI and RCZ.
In fact, that 1.6L turbo engine is the ONLY higher powered gas engine in the entire Groupe PSA; there's nothing else except the smaller 1.2T 3-pot engine.
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Both Peugeot and CitroŽn still use the Prince-based 1.6T engine in their cars though.
Dammit.


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Not sure what the deal was with the R56 in the Mini, but Peugeot has gone as far as 270hp with that engine in the 308 GTI and RCZ.
I loved the feel and response of the little engine in my R56.. but they're well known for bad carbon build-up, drinking oil, and lunching their timing chains. Lots of character.. just too much some days.
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[...]I loved the feel and response of the little engine in my R56.. but they're well known for bad carbon build-up, drinking oil, and lunching their timing chains. Lots of character.. just too much some days.
Yeah, I hear you Hopefully, Peugeot has some of these things under control by now.

EDIT: ...seems like they are still some issues with oil consumption, carbon build-up and timing chain tensioners. Same 'ol, same 'ol
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Old 02-27-2019, 08:58 AM   #9
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Every manufacturer has their issues, it's a pick you poison game out there...

short list, not all inclusive; warning - it gets snarky

Alfa - beautiful to look at, and you really appreciate it on those Saturday drives, because Sunday through Friday it's in the shop.
BMW - Buy Mit Warranty
Chevrolet - free mullet with every purchase
Dodge - The merger with Fiat did not affect our reliability
Everyone - our in-house infotainment will be out of date as soon as it hits the dealer lots
Ford - We only do trucks and SUVs now, because our (regular) cars sucked
GMC - We only do trucks and SUVs because Chevy's (regular) cars suck, also we charge more for them
Hyundai - you've seen our car before, because we looked at everyone else's design and changed them the legally required amount.
Infiniti - we make luxury cars too... well not really, but we pretend to.
Jaguar - A brand so British it Seceded, but kept the British electrical issues
Jeep - The Wrangler is proof that 240k people a year will buy hot garbage solely for image and parking lot cred
Kia - like hyundai, but different as much as is legally required.
Lexus - A reliable luxury car you probably don't want to buy.
Mazda - we make economy cars that are slightly more fun than the other guys, IT'S A REALLY LOW BAR
Nissan - Japanese Dodge
Opel - Like Peugeot, but with a German badge
Peugeot - The best French manufacturer there is; NOUS METTONS LA BARRE!
Rolls-Royce - luxurious tanks
Subaru - we want to be like Toyota, also we like dogs or something; coolant, oil & main bearing consumption are normal parts of the combustion cycle
Tesla - I can't believe these people paid 50k-80k for something with vinyl interior, don't worry, the panel gaps will be adjusted with an over the air update
Toyota - We want to be like everyone else, but also like ourselves; our favorite ice cream flavor is vanilla
VW - you can only have as much fun as we say you can; if you pay us more we will unlock more fun for you through software
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I always loved their Cup Coupes.

They have style.
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Nissan - Japanese Dodge

nailed it!
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nailed it!
Nissan French car ( Renault) masquerading as Japanese
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Dear Peugeot,

We got all of a Fighting Lion revival that we could stand with the horrific Prince motor in the R56 MINIs. Kindly stay home.. and send Citroen over to play instead.

'Merica


god my MCS engine was garbage. 3 rebuilds in less than a year because of the timing chain issue. Ditched that car in a hurry, after dumping a ton into it...

Pretty sure they've gotten those bugs worked out. I honestly think BMW was the one to blame on that engine, not Peugeot. That engine used BMW variable valve timing setups, so I blame them for everything related to the timing chain, including the effed up timing chain tensioner...

Carbon deposit issues are here to stay. Even mfr's that had dual port in europe are starting to ditch them (EA888 in the R/GTI no longer has port injection, just direct).
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https://jalopnik.com/peugeot-brought...atl-1833888131

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Jalopnik reader Rahul was at an Atlanta-area “Caffeine & Octane” event, one of the many cars and coffee gatherings that happen all across our glorious nation, and was surprised to find there a brand-new Peugeot 508GT. As you know, no Peugeots have been sold in America since 1991. What was this car doing there, and how did it get there?

The answer is interesting. The cars were brought by representatives from Groupe PSA, the parent company of Peugeot, CitroŽn, and Vauxhall, a company that is planning a return to the U.S. market, and who has selected Atlanta as their regional headquarters base, which explains why the car was shown there.[...]
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If they want to return, they should bring the hot hatches/WRC homologation specials as well.
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What is the redeeming quality of the brand? Crippling depreciation? Terrible reliability? Are they at least dirt cheap? I dont get it.
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What is the redeeming quality of the brand? Crippling depreciation? Terrible reliability? Are they at least dirt cheap? I dont get it.
I grew up around quite a few Pugs; specifically, 205, 306, 307, 207 and, more recently, a 2008 with a fun 128-hp 1.2T 3-pot engine.
These are cars I drove extensively; mostly on hilly and twisty roads all over the small caribbean island I grew up on.
So, I'm a little biased; but, I'd spend my money on a Peugeot with very little hesitation.
First let's wait and see when PSA is going to officially enter the fray.
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No more sedans, please. Bring more 308 GTi.

I really liked seeing all of the peugeot hatchbacks when I visited london as a kid. Really wanted one. Probably what planted the seed for my hatchback love.

But given the lack of hatchbacks in the US market, it would be a good spot for them to come in and add some competition for VW
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We do not need more FWD hatchbacks.
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Wait till Trump announces import taxes on EU autos. He says he does not want taxes but says if you want to sell to Americans you will make them in America. A reciprocal even tax will not work cause he knows they will not buy American cars, Meanwhile BMW is biggest exporter of autos in USA and ZF find success with USA . https://www.greenvilleonline.com/sto...rg/3378691002/
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We do not need more FWD hatchbacks.
And we need more fwd sedans?

I forgot, sedans = performance.
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If they want to return, they should bring the hot hatches/WRC homologation specials as well.
They don't have any anymore. The C3 roadcar is a turd. The old DS3 would have been nice, but it's time has passed now.

Peugeot GTI would be nice though
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I don't see how having more choices is a bad thing.



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And we need more fwd sedans?

I forgot, sedans = performance.
I meant we don't need any more FWD....
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Having more choices doesn’t mean it will sell well. There are current cars in those segments that already sell well here and I don’t see Peugeot selling well.
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