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Old 09-18-2003, 10:36 PM   #1
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Default What do you think of my new winter tires? - PIC

I can't wait until I try these babies out during the first snowstorm this winter. They definitely look snow worthy.
SUVs???????? BLAH!!!!

Dunlop Winter Sport M3's....


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Old 09-18-2003, 10:55 PM   #2
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Those look pretty mean Jeff.
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Old 09-18-2003, 10:58 PM   #3
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the tread pattern looks similar to the ones on my Toyo Observe G02's. If so, don't worry about the snow, these things will get you through anything.
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Old 09-18-2003, 11:25 PM   #4
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I had M2's last year and was happy with the dry, wet, and snow performance.

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Old 09-19-2003, 01:26 AM   #5
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haha winter glad i moved. ill miss it a little though i think

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Old 09-19-2003, 07:59 AM   #6
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I had M2's last year and was happy with the dry, wet, and snow performance.

Paul G.
Paul,
How good would you say they handle in the dry?
Better than RE92's?
I heard that they do handle real nice in the dry. I wanted something thats also good when its not snowing. (which is most of the winter)
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Old 09-19-2003, 08:37 AM   #7
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[disclaimer]Everyone's expectations are different[/disclaimer].

I liked them. I had Michelin Artic Alpines (purchased new) before the M2's, and bought the M2's used (one season old, not sure on mileage).

I liked the Michelin Artic Alpines better in the snow/ice. I ice raced a season with each tire on my stock WRX (where my opinion was developed). The Michelin was designed as an Ice tire also, so I wasn't surprised at my conclusion. It just seemed to handle better on the WRX. The car weight seemed to affect the Dunlops for some reason, and they weren't as responsive (on ice). With the Michelin it was like "Go ahead, try anything, we'll get through it and do exactly what you want". I placed 3rd for the year with the Michelin, loosing to Hakka tires on similar Subaru cars.

On the street, I never had an issue with winter conditions with either tire.

In the dry:
I'd say they were about equal (Michellin / Dunlop) and both were better than the RE-92's or at least equal depending on your driving habits. I don't drive like a complete nut, but I never had any issues handling off ramps or with turn in. I never felt like I was on snow tires.

The pictures of your M3's seem a bit more aggressive than the M2's. More tread blocks I think. That might make them feel a bit more squirmish. I'm no tire expert though, and those are the only snow tires I've ever owned.

Paul G.

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Old 09-19-2003, 10:33 AM   #8
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Those look nice. I ran the M2's last season - I was very happy with their performance. And my commute covers small side streets, main roads, 75 mph highways, etc.

You'll probably be very happy with those. --They're great tires for all-condition driving.-- Especially if you ran the RE-92's last winter.

Enjoy! I always love the first big snowfall

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Edit- Paul- Just curious- what was it about the weight of the car you felt affected the tires? Also, what psi were you running?
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Old 09-19-2003, 11:33 AM   #9
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Curious as to what you paid for those... I'm under the impression that if can break loose my on dry pavement without a clutch drop, they're not going to be too amazing in the snow

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Edit- Paul- Just curious- what was it about the weight of the car you felt affected the tires? Also, what psi were you running?
I know that sounded kind of stange. I ran my Michelin's on the RS before putting them on the WRX. So I remember feeling that they weren't as good on the WRX as the RS. The RS was just un-stoppable with those tires. Point/shoot on ice.
I consider my feelings an effect of the weight difference in the cars because the power, etc.. wasn't a factor at the ice races.

I know it seems weird since weight transfer isn't a big factor on ice, but for some reason the WRX felt like it drove the tires. That's the best way I can explain it.

When I put the M2's on the WRX (never had them on the RS) they just weren't as good as the Michelins.

That's what I meant to say.
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Old 09-19-2003, 12:43 PM   #11
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Now imagine how well those Michelins would have performed if two of 'em weren't on backwards.

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Old 09-19-2003, 01:13 PM   #12
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Curious as to what you paid for those... I'm under the impression that if can break loose my on dry pavement without a clutch drop, they're not going to be too amazing in the snow

Bry.
They were $96 a piece........

Break loose on dry pavement? So what your telling us is a good snow tire shouldnt spin when you floor your gas pedal upon takeoff in a snowstorm? (without a clutch drop of course)
Do you expect snowtires to have metal spikes that go 1 inch INTO the blacktop?
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