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12-01-2009, 05:45 PM | #51 | |
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Just to get equal tires as the 09 on an 08 will cost you $800 Then you need to upgrade the suspension. Then you need to upgrade the turbo. Then you'd need to upgrade the seats (IIRC the seats in the 09 similiar in support but different trim to the STI's but the 08's are not). Not sure about the brakes, but people here keep mentioning the 09+ brakes are better than the 08's Then you'd need to tune the 08 to make the power of the 09. And I'm sure there are other details too, not even taking the better body kit on the 09's which make them look nearly like an STI except without the wide body. 08 WRX looks a lot like a base Impreza by comparison. I think it would cost you FAR more than $1,500 to bring an 08 WRX up to the level of the 09+ WRX
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12-01-2009, 06:45 PM | #52 | |
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The 3G transmission shares 1st thru 4th with the legacy gt with the same 3.90 final drive ratio. Look up a couple of threads on the lgt trans, they come with ra sti gears, stock. Most think they're stronger, some don't, I do. Ones going into my rs with 4.44 fd. I have read that the unabomber is a fan of the "keanigenie" transmission and these gears. He also acknowledges them coming stock in the '08+. http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...=legacy+gt+LGT A lot of new '09 guys talk a lot about their cars but don't seem to know much about them. |
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12-01-2009, 07:26 PM | #53 | ||
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12-01-2009, 08:05 PM | #54 | |
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Sways, springs, tires, rims, intercooler, turbo, dp, catback and tune for less than $1,500 you either stole quite a bit of s--t, bought them 2nd or 3rd hand, or did some "favors" to some vendors for the deals. And you are surely not the norm in that department to get all those things for $1,500, that's for sure. And then as you said, 95% of 08 WRX owners wouldn't then want or be able to install all those things on their cars themselves, for free, so they'd have to pay probably close to or more than $1,500 to have it all installed on their car to boot. It's hard for a lot of 09 owners to know a lot about their cars at this point, well at least for me, since I've had it only a month or so and have 1,300 miles on it. I'm pretty sure had you known that the 09 WRX was going to get all the upgrades it got over the 08 WRX for FREE (essentially no price increase) you would not have gotten the 2008. And personally had I been shopping for a WRX in late 2007 or early to mid 2008 (and not known about what Subaru was doing for the 2009 WRX), I would of spent the extra $10k and gotten an STI then, as the $10k difference for the STI was way worth it considering what you got in a stock 2008 WRX. Last edited by D72; 12-01-2009 at 09:48 PM. |
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12-01-2009, 09:06 PM | #55 | ||
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WRX ratios have an awkwardly long rpm drop between 1st and 2nd gears, and 2nd to 3rd could be a bit closer as well. The LGT ratios are a much better match to each other as far as the ratios go, as they are more evenly spaced... in other words you get a similar rpm drop in each gear. How does that make things stronger? Because the larger the rpm drop in between gears the harder you are hammering the gears with the weight of your flywheel. Lower rpm drop = less shock load. Why? Because slowing the flywheel down by 1500rpm dissapates less energy into the gears than slowing that same flywheel down by 2000rpm (assuming the same clutch actuation and type). The LGT gears are also a little bit thicker at the roots of the gear teeth in the lower gears. The LGT/standard STI 5mt (non-RA) gearset is not a huge jump in strength, but it is stronger, and just the better gear ratios alone are well worth it. (jhargis) 1st 3.454 2nd 1.947 3rd 1.366 4th 0.972 5th 0.738 '02-05 FD - 3.90 '06-07 FD - 3.70 Same gears and a 3.7 fd equals more strain on the gears with a bigger, more powerful engine. 1st - 3.166 2nd - 1.882 3rd - 1.296 4th - 0.972 5th - 0.78 '08 FD- 3.900 Add the dual mass flywheel to soften gear shock on shifts and the 08/09/10 transmission is not weak. There is pages and pages on this subject, I think we got an upgrade over the previous years. Quote:
I agree with the STI being the far superior car and worth the price difference but the '08 is a good car that can be made better. I don't think it should be automatically discounted at the price that they can be had for. I didn't mean to insult '09 owners at all, just some weird stuff posted lately and I should have explained it a bit better. Again, I think we have an upgraded transmission over previous years. |
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12-01-2009, 10:44 PM | #56 |
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Doesn't the 08 have a smaller engine as well? I thought the fact the sti and wrx had the exact same engine this time was another big thing...
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12-02-2009, 12:00 PM | #57 |
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I dont know what happened to this thread but thanks for those who stayed on topic...
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12-02-2009, 12:24 PM | #58 | |
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Everyone hated the '08 WRX because it had a chrome grille and soft suspension. The power delivery was actually fantastic for a street car. I could rip sub 6 second 0-60s all day long with the Stage 1 Perrin flash without slipping the clutch much at all. It's awesome that the '09s got more power.. but there is a tradeoff in low-end torque. |
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12-03-2009, 12:36 PM | #59 |
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People tend to compare things that are'nt comparable - The 2009 & up WRX's are such an improvement over the 2008's - don't compare 2008's to anything - they were simply nothot.com. The 2009's are faster, tighter, and have sport tuned suspension - and the 5 speed delivers a "just right" power curve for spirited driving everyday. (mine is a 2009 5D Premium Stock).
Which is better? ... an '09 or '10 WRX or same model year(s) STI ? - the STI is plain & simple a true enthusiast's car - you are wasting $$ unless you appreciate what the car is. They are not to be compared - but a little consideration - a dream on the wild side - is fun. (hey: If folks still ask what's the difference between an STI and a WRX? The easy answer is $200 a month) |
12-03-2009, 01:38 PM | #60 |
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One key thing if you do want to take it to the track is bearings/ hubs which are much stronger on the STi. Then there's all the other stuff that's already been mentioned. The STi will stand up much better to track abuse.
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03-05-2010, 05:00 AM | #61 |
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Before you decide, maybe you should look at this:
http://elementtuning.com/2010/01/19/...h-08-wrx-1108/ It just so happens that an 08 WRX holds the record lap at summit point. Sure, it is slightly modified, but the point is that the 08 WRX wasn't as bad as everyone is making it out to be. sorry.... didn't read the dates of the last post.... |
06-10-2010, 12:39 PM | #62 |
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Great video here on why you should get the 08 STI and not a 2010 WRX.
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06-11-2010, 11:54 PM | #63 |
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i didnt see anything comparing the 08 sti and 2010 wrx....
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06-12-2010, 12:00 AM | #64 |
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Just get the 2010 STI SE. Cheapest STI and better everything than the Standrad 09 WRX.
Spec-C Suspension, Brakes, LSD, stronger drivetrain and wider fenders and wheels are reasons enough. |
10-03-2012, 05:27 PM | #65 |
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I got an 08 WRX with basic bolt ons and a pro tune. I love that car. Weak transmission aside i cant get enough of the car. I put an FX300 clutch in it and for an every day car its awesome. I dont drag race it (at least not from a launch) if i do race it its from a roll and i feather the clutch as so not to put too much stress on the gears. The car was dyno'd at 298hp and 312TQ and for an every day driver its perfect. I really dont know why so many people say **** the 2008.
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10-03-2012, 05:52 PM | #66 | |
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10-03-2012, 10:14 PM | #67 |
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