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Old 02-24-2014, 11:51 PM   #26
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looks good for the price. i got my GF for her 08 wrx there CBE had to get longer hangers though. if not it rubbed really bad on the heat shields
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Old 02-25-2014, 09:31 AM   #27
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To anyone who has installed these: Do these fit around the oil cooler just fine? I think I read that a different style oil cooler might be needed. Please post what type of car you have or what it will be going in. I will hopefully be installing in a 2004 FXT.
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Old 02-25-2014, 11:01 PM   #28
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I didn't have any clearance issues at all. Install was pretty straight forward. 2013 WRX.
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Old 02-27-2014, 01:46 AM   #29
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I didn't have any clearance issues at all. Install was pretty straight forward. 2013 WRX.
So did u get a tune after installed ? Or not?
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Old 02-27-2014, 08:03 AM   #30
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Yes. The car put down about 285/350 on a mustang. Stage 2 plus Fms tmic and the header.
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Old 02-27-2014, 11:22 AM   #31
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Added pics of them wrapped.
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Old 02-27-2014, 12:33 PM   #32
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Looks good! What did you spray the headers with? Did you sand blast first? What wrap are you using?
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Old 02-27-2014, 05:07 PM   #33
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looks good what did you coat it with ?
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Old 02-27-2014, 05:54 PM   #34
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Looks good! What did you spray the headers with? Did you sand blast first? What wrap are you using?
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looks good what did you coat it with ?
I wiped it down with alcohol & a rag to remove my prints.

I used DEI Silicone coating & DEI black heat wrap 2"x50'

I also coated it first to protect from corroding the ss with the salty roads we get in winter. Then I dried it with my heat gun.
I wet the wrap to prevent fiber glass from going all over and wrapped the pipes overlapping 1"
I used ss zip ties I bought at Walmart (11" long and came with 10 for <$4)

After I finished I dried it with my heat gun and partially cured it completely. It smokes like crazy when it cures on your car so make sure you are in an open area.

After it was dry I sprayed the rest of the silicone spray over the wrap to further protect it from the elements. I also used extra ss ties to keep it together when I bottom out and it starts peeling. Then I dried it again.

I was drunk so I was OCD a bit.
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Old 02-27-2014, 07:38 PM   #35
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I didn't have any clearance issues at all. Install was pretty straight forward. 2013 WRX.
how long did the install take? was thinking about the perrins, but they are double the price..and im happy with my erz/cnt DP
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Old 02-27-2014, 10:16 PM   #36
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These cheap headers usually require the flanges to be milled 100% flat.
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Old 02-28-2014, 08:16 AM   #37
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how long did the install take? was thinking about the perrins, but they are double the price..and im happy with my erz/cnt DP
Install only took about 30 mins on a lift.
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Old 02-28-2014, 04:10 PM   #38
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Looking at those welds...well they ain't gonna last long. Look like toilet paper and spit. What they look like is $300 headers. This stuff on the ultra cheap end never lasts guys.
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Old 02-28-2014, 05:57 PM   #39
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If you bought the header to good welder could they be reinforced or fixed for longevity ? Pardon my ignorance of welding.
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If you bought the header to good welder could they be reinforced or fixed for longevity ? Pardon my ignorance of welding.
I was curious about the same thing.
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If you bought the header to good welder could they be reinforced or fixed for longevity ? Pardon my ignorance of welding.
What's the point then. Just save up and get something of quality. And don't fool yourself, agency power isn't quality. Tomei is nice, perrin, ets, full race, killerb, produce nice parts that last.
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Old 03-01-2014, 09:43 AM   #42
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What's the point then. Just save up and get something of quality. And don't fool yourself, agency power isn't quality. Tomei is nice, perrin, ets, full race, killerb, produce nice parts that last.
Just playing devils advocate, but if I spent $270 on the header and say $100 getting it reinforced , would I not have a decent long lasting header for less than half the price of the name brand offerings ?
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What's the point then. Just save up and get something of quality. And don't fool yourself, agency power isn't quality. Tomei is nice, perrin, ets, full race, killerb, produce nice parts that last.
Interesting you say this about Agency Power EL headers. Garris (morrocco88), who built my rotated setup - and is a damn fine welder - had this to say about the AP EL headers (I'm paraphrasing): They are endorsed by Dom at Maxwell Power. He's been using them for over 6 years without a single crack. The AP has nice cast transitions and double slip fits. The cast pieces makes it a perfect transition inside, and also gets rid of an area that can crack from the welds, and the slip fits alleviate stress from expansion/contraction. The cheapies have nothing to account for expansion...the whole thing is solid / rigid.

Soooo.... There is more to a header than rattling off brand names...

If you want to know more, I can have Garris chime in on this thread.
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Looking at those welds...well they ain't gonna last long. Look like toilet paper and spit. What they look like is $300 headers. This stuff on the ultra cheap end never lasts guys.
I currently have UEL that were $400 iirc and they're still going strong for about 3yrs. They've been wrapped since day 1.
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Old 03-07-2014, 12:26 AM   #45
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Well I just installed them after an oil change. They sound amazing when you rev it. I love everything about them. Install was a breeze other than the pita up pipe bolts being hard to reach. Quick teaser vid & I'll make a before/after later. It definitely feels faster.

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Old 03-07-2014, 12:46 PM   #46
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In for more videos. You'll need to get tuned to get any extra power. Your butt dyno is playing mind games
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Perfect fitment is overrated. As long as it heats up, settles in, and any leaks carbon up, you're fine.

Last fall I picked up a cheap used perrin ELH with a slip joint and I had it welded. Well, it warped during welding so the flanges were duck-footed and too close together. Put one side on the studs, ran a tow strap through the wheel-well and around the runner and pulled.... Zipped up, perfectly tight and the flanges sat flush once the nuts were torqued. Did a re-tune via Eric Minehart and it pulls like a beast. Stock header put down 291/313 on a dynojet in 85f heat, I'd imagine it would be ~310/340 now.
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Old 03-07-2014, 08:52 PM   #48
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So do you guys know how thick the flanges are or what gauge tubing is used?
I've been going back and forth about these headers for a month now. The flange thickness and the tubing thickness should be a good indicator of how much trouble these will give you down the road.
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Let me just say I know the guy who makes the nameless brand exhaust and the quality of work is amazing and when you look at the exhaust pay attention to the welds. The nameless brand and CNT are pretty much the same brand. CNT is down in Cali and NAMELESS is up in La Center, WA I run the turbo back with a AP v3 stage 2 OTS map and have no problems.
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Thanks for the info. I have the srs header now which looks exactly like the tomei/tomika and the welds on it are perfect but the flanges are thin and warped + the slip joints leak bad. So I don't wanna go from one ****ty header to the next
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