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Old 02-17-2004, 03:29 AM   #1
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Default winter blues driving me to be irrational? pls tell me what you think.

i own a summer track car. i don't race it, but it's become my "dedicated" lapping car.

as many of you know, having cars like these are kinda a work in progress all the time. first you upgrade tires, then suspension, then blah blah blah, so on and so forth.

i don't have THAT much lapping experience, i started just last season. (been to just 11 track days)

but i've been thinking:

lapping just doens't cut it in terms of racing, cuz it ISN'T racing. even tho i somewhat beat on the car at the track, there's STILL this worry that it can blow the engine and me having to tow the car back. (oh i forgot to mention: i don't have a tow vehicle, so i drive this car to the track, and back. i don't drive it any other time; car's almost 20 years old. while the engine is still only at 160k km, u know how things can happen on the track )
add that to the cost benefit factor and i'm REALLY starting to consider about just selling off the whole damn thing w/ all the hard to buy parts i have sitting at home and just buy me a shifter kart to go race in THAT instead.

i haven't done enough research as far as the $$$ goes in kart racing, but i can't imagine it possibly being as expensive as having a track car. (watch i get owned on that assumption lol)

so for those who've raced shifters, how much of a pit are we talking about. i just wanna race; @ 25 i'm way too old to do this as a stepping stone for pro racing.

just looking at it in terms of most fun / dollar spent..and kart seems to be a better value than cars.
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Old 02-17-2004, 08:47 AM   #2
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How big are you, and how do you feel about getting knocked onto the pavement at 60 mph? I knew a guy who got sick of lapping at tracks and autocrossing, wanted some wheel to wheel action, but didn't have the time to get a proper race car. So, he got into karting. Tried it for a few events, and realized that it just wasn't the kind of sport for a guy like him (he was a pretty good sized dude).

But, on the other hand, I think it could be a blast. I don't know about costs, but it's bound to be much less than even something like a Formula Vee. And there are people who autocross karts around me, and they either have small tow-behind trailers to work on the carts, or just throw them in the back of a van.

See if there isn't somewhere near you where you can rent one. Down at Lime Rock near here you can just show up, pay a couple-hundred bucks, and take a kart out for awhile. Might be worth trying if you're serious.
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Old 02-17-2004, 01:47 PM   #3
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If you get a 125 cc shifter, look at about 200 a weekend of racing. Tires, fuel, travel, misc. crap breaking.

Then you have to rebuild the motor every 10 hours or so.

Racing shifter karts isnt cheap either, but the thrill factor is MUCH higher then a street car that is tracked.
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Old 02-17-2004, 02:48 PM   #4
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There are some new "sealed engine" carts - I think Rotax is one type. Supposedly very fast and low running costs. Possibility of injury is probably much higher than lapping, plus I heard you take a physical beating from constantly pulling >2g in the corners!
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Old 02-18-2004, 03:24 AM   #5
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I ran Rotax karts a couple of years ago... what a blast!! Until I broke 3 ribs.... and then 2 ribs.... just G forces... no accidents.

Start out in Rotax Max, get a good seat and a good rib protector.

And race on smooth tracks!
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Old 02-18-2004, 10:34 AM   #6
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Yeah....lots of people do break ribs

But besides that, its not too dangerous. But....do get a GOOD padded seat and rib protector, and most likely ur fine. And if your 25 and in decent shape....most likely definately be fine.
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Old 02-18-2004, 02:26 PM   #7
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I've been researching Karts for awhile now for the same reasons you stated. Here is what I found.

Shifter Karts = Min. 5K for a used race ready Shifter.

New Rotax around 7K (haven't seen any used ones)


The cheap way is to get into direct drive sprint or oval Karts.........2 year old race ready under 2K still need to buy a trailer and spares (and learn about 4 cycles to do your own rebuilds)

check out 4cycles.com if your really serious.
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Old 02-18-2004, 02:46 PM   #8
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wow... i think you can get a new Rotax in Houston for about 5k
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Old 02-18-2004, 02:55 PM   #9
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You can find plenty of used rotax karts. Can get one for under 4k easy, even low 3k's.
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Old 02-18-2004, 03:14 PM   #10
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A lot will depend on the racing available "close to home" for you. Search around, ask around and find out what tracks are running regular events, and then talk to some local kart racers to get their input. No use getting into a certain class and then finding out you have to drive 1000 miles every weekend to find an event.

Oh well, nobody has farther to drive than those of us up here in America's Outback (North Dakota). And btw, I don't race karts myself, except at the local amusement park against my daughter.
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Old 02-18-2004, 03:33 PM   #11
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What BC says is sooo true. For example, when there was but one kart track in Houston, 125cc shifters were a dead issue, the track was just too small. The KT100 clutch karts ruled the competition.

Now they have a second, wide open facility and 125's are big and KT100's are passe.
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