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Old 10-06-2013, 07:19 PM   #2576
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Old 10-06-2013, 07:21 PM   #2577
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Well I do oil analysis for a living on aircraft engines. Anytime you completely drain your oil you reset the trend because it's not accurate. If you're going to do it, take samples every 1k miles to establish a trend, not when you drain and flush your oil.
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Old 10-06-2013, 07:21 PM   #2578
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Well I do oil analysis for a living on aircraft engines. Anytime you completely drain your oil you reset the trend because it's not accurate. If you're going to do it, take samples every 1k miles to establish a trend, not when you drain and flush your oil.
Well, I BUILT, REPAIRED, REMOVED and INSTALLED a wide variety of aircraft engines and propeller systems for over 20 years and I also hold an A&P license and helped 40+ other people earn their A&P licenses. Not to mention, I was also a HC-130H Flight Engineer with more hours than you likely even have in the USAF.

I can tell you that how I do it is how I do it and is also as recommended by the lab.

This isn't exactly an aircraft engine costing millions.
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Old 10-06-2013, 07:22 PM   #2579
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You god damn right. I'm an SME in this field, just trying to give some advice.
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Old 10-06-2013, 07:23 PM   #2580
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Well, I BUILT, REPAIRED, REMOVED and INSTALLED a wide variety of aircraft engines and propeller systems for over 20 years and I also hold an A&P license and helped 40+ other people earn their A&P licenses. Not to mention, I was also a HC-130H Flight Engineer with more hours that your likely even have in the USAF.

I can tell you that how I do it is how I do it and is also as recommended by the lab.

This isn't exactly an aircraft engine costing millions.
I was simply providing input on wear metal analysis, nothing more nothing less. Not trying to have a dick measuring contest as I see that's what the carter clan is still about. Also prop aircraft don't do jack **** with oil analysis, so your experience there is null and void. Considering I have yet to hit 4 years I'm sure you did have many more hours in teh AF than I do, congrats? Again, not knowing your background and knowing what I do, I was simply providing input, you didn't have to be a douche. Glad that AKIC hasn't changed in years.

I do see how my first line may have came across douchey, that wasn't my intent.
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Old 10-06-2013, 07:25 PM   #2581
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Old 10-06-2013, 07:28 PM   #2582
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I was simply providing input on wear metal analysis, nothing more nothing less. Not trying to have a dick measuring contest as I see that's what the carter clan is still about. Also prop aircraft don't do jack **** with oil analysis, so your experience there is null and void. Considering I have yet to hit 4 years I'm sure you did have many more hours in teh AF than I do, congrats? Again, not knowing your background and knowing what I do, I was simply providing input, you didn't have to be a douche. Glad that AKIC hasn't changed in years.
Well, this right here sure tells me you are far from being a SME.

And yes, I did have to be a douche because that is the Carter Clan and that's how we are, remember? And, after all, it's you!

Thanks for your service and have a good day!
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Old 10-06-2013, 07:31 PM   #2583
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Well, this right here sure tells me you are far from being a SME.

And yes, I did have to be a douche because that is the Carter Clan and that's how we are, remember? And, after all, it's you!

Thanks for your service and have a good day!
Thanks for your service as well Sir!

Props do not do Oil Analysis in teh USAF, tis le truth. I'd love to hear about your experience with oil analysis and trending though.


So how's AKIC been, it's been a long while.
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Old 10-06-2013, 09:14 PM   #2584
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Old 10-07-2013, 02:12 AM   #2585
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I tried the Castrol Syntec and my car consumed the hell out of it. The same with the Pennzoil Platinum.

The Rotella was consumed very minimally compared to those two.

I was using the 5/30 vice the 0/30 you're looking at.

I'm running Royal Purple HPS 5W30 now and this new motor likes it so far - very little consumption even during break-in.

I'm going to send off a sample for analysis to Blackstone Labs on the next change.
What grade of castrol where you using? Cause the german castrol 0w30 is rated rather thick to the point of being damn near a 40 weight
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Old 10-07-2013, 02:16 AM   #2586
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What grade of castrol where you using? Cause the german castrol 0w30 is rated rather thick to the point of being damn near a 40 weight
I read that the 0W30 was thick.

I'm pretty sure I was using the 5W30 Made in the USA stuff.

A good read on what you're looking at...

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums...&Number=718643
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Old 10-07-2013, 02:47 AM   #2587
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I read that the 0W30 was thick.

I'm pretty sure I was using the 5W30 Made in the USA stuff.

A good read on what you're looking at...

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums...&Number=718643
I go to that site alot actually
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Old 10-07-2013, 04:03 AM   #2588
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I go to that site alot actually
I eat babies.

Also if you just man-up and run amsoil like a boss it will flow well even a low temps.
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Old 10-07-2013, 04:13 AM   #2589
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I eat babies.

Also if you just man-up and run amsoil like a boss it will flow well even a low temps.
Nah I like the cost of the rotella to much and all the uoa's that have come back awesome to change it to amsoil
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Old 10-07-2013, 05:26 AM   #2590
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Nah I like the cost of the rotella to much and all the uoa's that have come back awesome to change it to amsoil
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Old 10-07-2013, 01:28 PM   #2591
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Nah I like the cost of the rotella to much and all the uoa's that have come back awesome to change it to amsoil
But do you sample every 1000 miles, or only during your oil changes?
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But do you sample every 1000 miles, or only during your oil changes?
I've done uoa's at 3000 and then again at 6000 and the rotella has always stayed in grade
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Old 10-07-2013, 06:57 PM   #2593
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I've done uoa's at 3000 and then again at 6000 and the rotella has always stayed in grade
Good to know. I've done 6k, 9k, 10k & ~13k. (oil change intervals) And my UOA's always came back with the oil still maintaining grade. Haven't sent the latest Audi one in, and need to send the Corrado one in at next change.

BTW, was mostly being sarcastic regarding your sampling intervals.

FWIW Mr. Jet Mechanic, the majority of UOA's done on vehicles seem to be sampled during an oil change. From my understanding this is helpful as the "best" sample is taken mid-drain, eliminating any sediment oil on the bottom of the oil pan. UOA's are typically used to determine how well the oil has held up over the specified interval. This is usually based on a "virgin Oil Analysis", or by data sheets obtained from the oil manufacturer. While the first drain may not give any trends, it could notify you if there is abnormally high levels of certain minerals/metals in your oil. Subsequent UOA's will help establish a trend with your vehicle, and better highlight discrepancies should the metals or mineral makeup change significantly.
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Old 10-07-2013, 09:30 PM   #2594
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No worries Ben , I've got to do an oil change this week and will most likely be sending a sample in as well. The oil has got about 6500 miles on it so far and I've had about a quart to almost 2 quarts of make up in that time, I really need to get off my ass and install that catch can I have lol
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Old 10-07-2013, 10:18 PM   #2595
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What is that facebook page where people trade car parts? Trying to trade some 19" wheels for 18" wheels.
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Old 10-07-2013, 10:19 PM   #2596
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Couldn't have said it better myself Ben! :thumbsup:

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This place?

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Old 10-10-2013, 07:08 PM   #2597
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For the autocrossers out there who have raced with the PCA group, you should know who Jim Mcneff is. Even if you don't, please keep him in your prayers. His wife Patti (long time continental employee) passed away from cancer this morning.
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Old 10-10-2013, 07:11 PM   #2598
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I'm horrible with names. If I saw a face, or knew what he drove I'd make the connection. Regardless, my condolences. I will keep him and his family in my prayers.
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Old 10-10-2013, 07:20 PM   #2599
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For the autocrossers out there who have raced with the PCA group, you should know who Jim Mcneff is. Even if you don't, please keep him in your prayers. His wife Patti (long time continental employee) passed away from cancer this morning.
OH man!! My sincere condolences. I will be sure to keep him and his family in our thoughts and prayers. Thanks for sharing Phil.
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I'm horrible with names. If I saw a face, or knew what he drove I'd make the connection. Regardless, my condolences. I will keep him and his family in my prayers.
I'm bad with names too, but I believe he has a white 912/914, and is the guy with the curly-ish black/grey hair and a beard.
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