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Old 08-17-2022, 07:01 AM   #51
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Keep your RS. Far better car.

BTW those guys are scrubs, this is paid advertising. Everyone I have talked to who has driven the new WRX says its the worst driving "WRX" our shores have ever seen.
Nah, those guys are great. Their opinion is a lot more valuable than yours, that's for sure. Also, your imaginary friends don't count and everyone that actually drove or owns one would say otherwise.
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Old 08-17-2022, 07:05 AM   #52
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OK, this thread seems to be really dead. Since there doesn't seem to be a 2022 WRX section launch imminent, I'll just highjack this thread for a little while with my questions until I get yelled at.

My Miata had a kind of high idle on initial startup to warm up the cats quicker, but the one on the new WRX is MUCH more aggressive, starting out around 1700 RPM for a bit, then dropping to 1500 for a minute or more before it drops down closer to normal. On the Miata, there was a hack to bypass it if you needed to not draw quite so much attention. If the shifter was in reverse when you started the car, it would bypass the warm-up. Anyone happen to know if the WRX has a similar hack, or if you just get to annoy the neighborhood every morning on startup. It's pretty loud with the stock exhaust. I can't imagine it with the muffler delete setups that seem to be the most common exhaust upgrade currently available.

Second question is, does anyone know if the power ratings were done with 91 octane or 93 or something else? I know the owners manual or brochure mentioned something about being able to run 87 without problems, that it would just pull timing (and I assume limit boost) and be fine. I always ran 93 in my last WRX (2003) and in my Miatas, and had planned to run it in the new one as well. Does anyone know if it's actually tuned for 93 or adds enough timing to actually take advantage of it, though?
You would need the COBB AP to disable cold start. It was a fairly common complaint with the VA. I am not sure if there would be much of a difference between 91 and 93 but stock tuning responded very well to a E30 mix in terms of power gain when Primemotoring tested their '22.
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Old 08-19-2022, 12:02 PM   #53
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You would need the COBB AP to disable cold start. It was a fairly common complaint with the VA. I am not sure if there would be much of a difference between 91 and 93 but stock tuning responded very well to a E30 mix in terms of power gain when Primemotoring tested their '22.
Pretty sure COBB removed the option to disable stratified start as it is an emissions control function to warm the cat. On my 17 if you press the gas peddle at all it drops out of the high idle for at least a few seconds, so you can kinda keep pressing the gas to disable it, or just start driving.
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Old 08-19-2022, 04:22 PM   #54
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Pretty sure COBB removed the option to disable stratified start as it is an emissions control function to warm the cat. On my 17 if you press the gas peddle at all it drops out of the high idle for at least a few seconds, so you can kinda keep pressing the gas to disable it, or just start driving.
Hell on my 2010 you just need to rev it once to drop the RPMs for good.
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Old 08-19-2022, 04:59 PM   #55
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Pretty sure COBB removed the option to disable stratified start as it is an emissions control function to warm the cat. On my 17 if you press the gas peddle at all it drops out of the high idle for at least a few seconds, so you can kinda keep pressing the gas to disable it, or just start driving.
Oh wow, I forgot about that. They changed a ton of things not too long because of the regulations.
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Old 08-21-2022, 11:41 AM   #56
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What kind of MPG are you all getting?
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Old 08-23-2022, 10:58 AM   #57
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One thing I've noticed lately on the 22s is how STIFF the front suspension is particularly going over road work or patches of small bumps, You really bounce around, don't remember my lowered 18 being that stiff.
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One thing Iíve noticed lately on the 22s is how STIFF the front suspension is particularly going over road work or patches of small bumps, You really bounce around, donít remember my lowered 18 being that stiff.
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Old 08-23-2022, 11:01 AM   #59
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What kind of MPG are you all getting?
Iím pretty even city/highway and Iím at 25.0. I could probably squeeze another mpg or two but Iím a consistent 80 to 85 on the highway
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Old 08-25-2022, 01:17 PM   #60
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Keep your RS. Far better car.

BTW those guys are scrubs, this is paid advertising. Everyone I have talked to who has driven the new WRX says its the worst driving "WRX" our shores have ever seen.
This 2022 WRX hate seems to be really important to you.
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Old 08-25-2022, 01:42 PM   #61
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Keep your RS. Far better car.

BTW those guys are scrubs, this is paid advertising. Everyone I have talked to who has driven the new WRX says its the worst driving "WRX" our shores have ever seen.
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This 2022 WRX hate seems to be really important to you.
Agree. The only thing I have to compare against is my 03 WRX, but the 22 rides a whole lot better in stock form, makes a butt-load more torque off-boost, and is just far more refined. It's not as fast as my 03 was after a VF34 upgrade, but it's far faster than it was in stock form with the TD04.

That said, the 6000 RPM redline is taking a bit of getting used to coming from a 2019 Miata that would wind out to 7500 RPM. The motor seems to still be pulling hard when it hits the rev limiter. And the factory boost limit seems a bit low. But once the tuners have a year or so to play with this one, I'm sure all of that can easily be fixed and the car will be a real competitor for the previous STi.
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Old 08-25-2022, 06:38 PM   #62
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........ and the car will be a real competitor for the previous STi.
In what ways? I'm wandering around looking at cars and nothing for sale now has impressed me enough to buy. Son #1 has a 20 STi that I drive sometimes, so know how it is. And sure, it is much refined over the last WRX in the family...an 07 limited with an STi 6 speed. What about handling, feel, how it handles bad roads?
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Old 08-26-2022, 09:00 AM   #63
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In what ways? I'm wandering around looking at cars and nothing for sale now has impressed me enough to buy. Son #1 has a 20 STi that I drive sometimes, so know how it is. And sure, it is much refined over the last WRX in the family...an 07 limited with an STi 6 speed. What about handling, feel, how it handles bad roads?
I haven't actually driven a recent STI, so it's hard to say how it will compare exactly.

The 2022 chassis is a lot stiffer than my 03 was. The whole car is bigger and heavier, but that extra size and weight seems to be put to good use making a nice solid platform rather than just a heavy vehicle for no particularly good reason. The factory suspension is pretty good -- not track sharp, but not super soft with tons of body roll like my last couple of Miatas, either. And like almost anything, I'm sure a decent set of coilovers would transform it into a beast. Mine has the STi shifter "upgrade", but it's still fairly long throw and sloppy compared to my Miatas. I guess it's the difference between a shifter mounted right on the transmission vs. one connected by cables. That's one aspect that could definitely use some TLC to make it feel better.

Only time will tell what the FA24 motor is capable of, but from everything I've read, it's sturdier than the outgoing EJ25 and has quite a bit more potential than the FA20 in the prior WRX. It seems to be WAY under-stressed with the factory tune of 12-ish psi max boost and 6000 RPM redline. It just feels like it would easily handle 7000 RPM, and I'd be surprised if it couldn't handle 18 or 19 psi of boost as well. The factory turbo seems to be pretty well designed as well, and it seems like this one doesn't necessarily need a turbo upgrade to make more power. I think the factory tune just needs to be un-neutered a bit and the motor will really wake up.

As far as handling bad roads, mine is a Limited with the 18" wheels and 245/40-18 tires. You can definitely feel the bumps, but it's not super-punishing. I think if off-roading or driving broken roads all the time is the main use case, it would make sense to downgrade to 17" wheels and 245/45-17 tires to get a bit more sidewall. Or maybe even down to a 16x8 wheel with a 225/50-16 tire if the wheel would fit over the brakes.

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