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Old 10-16-2018, 01:31 PM   #7251
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As supplied by this forum, use this calculator to see what you are doing. This is way more useful than doing the calcs by hand.

https://www.rimsntires.com/specspro.jsp

When you compare the stock:
245/40-18 on 18x8.5 ET+55

to your desired set up:
225/50/17 on 17x7.5 ET+40

you will find you have no issues, other than the tire is a bit taller than stock, but acceptably so, below 1%. In the past, with other cars, including AWD cars, I have tried to keep that variance below 2%, and not had any issues.

As advised by so many of the experienced contributors on this forum, bookmark that calculator.

Those wheels seem incredibly inexpensive. What do you know about Liquid Metal?

I am having a similar internal debate myself. Do I go with cheap wheels, or more expensive? If more expensive, how much more expensive? My new job requires winter driving every day, on generally well plowed and salted roads, so I need to do something quickly.

I had settled on some version of Sport Edition, a TireRack in house brand, until I started reading about issues with them being very soft, bending and or cracking after a season or two of potholes.

I decided to go with Tire Rack because of their national foot print, and because I can get a fully integrated package of tires, wheels, TPMS and hardware, so any issues, it is all them. I have done the take off route before and going between wheel company, tire company, tire installer is tiresome if there is an issue.
Thanks for info! I was using a different calculator that wasnt nearly as thurough. Going to bookmark that one for now. And i guess your right about the wheel, i should probably reseach it alittle more before i commit to them.
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Old 10-16-2018, 04:27 PM   #7252
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Need to get winter setup for my 2019 WRX Limited
Stock:
245/40-18 on 18x8.5 ET+55

Desired:
225/50/17 on 17x7.5 or 17x8 ET+48 or 50

I am looking on the TireRack for relatively cheap wheels, such as SportEdition or Moda (generally < $130 per wheel).

The cheap Enkei (Enkei Performance line) I can get for <$170 per wheel.

All appear to be gravity cast 1 pc wheels made in China and the weights vary from between 18.5 to 21.5 lbs.

I am NOT interested in buying even moderately priced (e.g., $200 to 250 per wheel) unless I am persuaded otherwise by the knowledgeable ones here.

In trying to research the quality of the wheels, I came across a few references to the SportEdition (in house TireRack brand) being soft, prone to going out of round, bending or outright spoke cracking.

Could find nothing about Moda except advertising hype.

I have had good experiences with all my OEM Enkei wheels (principally Hondas and Mazdas, not sure about the Toyotas).

Anyone have any experiences and/or references regarding the value/reliability/longevity of inexpensive SportEdition, Moda, etc. wheels pushed by TireRack or DiscountTire?

Thanks in advance.

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Old 10-17-2018, 03:06 AM   #7253
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Is there typically a way to get the offset from the wheel
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Old 10-17-2018, 07:54 AM   #7254
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Slush and not terrible on dry or wet - that sounds like winter performance or old fashion winter tires. If you skip slush then Xi3 is not bad choice, IMHO.
What is your tire size?

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I believe 225/65 17. Can confirm Saturday as that's when I pick it up.
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Old 10-17-2018, 08:04 AM   #7255
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On the tirerack there is not that many choices

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/TireS...earDiameter=17

I would have selected WS80 as this is safe winter tire bet.
However it is rather poor in slush, dry and wet :-(

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Old 10-17-2018, 08:16 AM   #7256
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On the tirerack there is not that many choices

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/TireS...earDiameter=17

I would have selected WS80 as this is safe winter tire bet.
However it is rather poor in slush, dry and wet :-(

Krzyś
Thanks. I'm considering the xi-2. They do a decent job. I have a set now on my OBXT. They aren't as good in deep snow as the generals, so I like to get those for my wife as her commute usually takes her into deeper snow, while mine takes me to clearer roads more often than not.
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Old 10-17-2018, 12:58 PM   #7257
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Is there typically a way to get the offset from the wheel
If your question is can you find the offset stamped on the wheel, typically, yes.

Typically there is a stamp ET on the wheel with a number...such as ET55 meaning the offset is +55. This has been true of every wheel that I have owned, most of which are OEM wheels, Honda, Mazda or Toyota and a set of BBS.

You can also find the model/part number stamped on the wheel which may be six or more numbers, and often the manufacturer website can tell you, or a quick phone call/email to customer support.
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Old 10-17-2018, 04:00 PM   #7258
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Need to get winter setup for my 2019 WRX Limited
Stock:
245/40-18 on 18x8.5 ET+55

Desired:
225/50/17 on 17x7.5 or 17x8 ET+48 or 50

I am looking on the TireRack for relatively cheap wheels, such as SportEdition or Moda (generally < $130 per wheel).

The cheap Enkei (Enkei Performance line) I can get for <$170 per wheel.

All appear to be gravity cast 1 pc wheels made in China and the weights vary from between 18.5 to 21.5 lbs.

I am NOT interested in buying even moderately priced (e.g., $200 to 250 per wheel) unless I am persuaded otherwise by the knowledgeable ones here.

In trying to research the quality of the wheels, I came across a few references to the SportEdition (in house TireRack brand) being soft, prone to going out of round, bending or outright spoke cracking.

Could find nothing about Moda except advertising hype.

I have had good experiences with all my OEM Enkei wheels (principally Hondas and Mazdas, not sure about the Toyotas).

Anyone have any experiences and/or references regarding the value/reliability/longevity of inexpensive SportEdition, Moda, etc. wheels pushed by TireRack or DiscountTire?

Thanks in advance.
New info. Can anyone verify? Tire Rack said look for construction method other than gravity cast. There are actually a few of their in house brand, SportEdition, that are not gravity cast but low pressure cast, a step up.

Even the cheaper Enkei Performance wheels are gravity cast. The agent's opinion was you were paying $50 more for name brand. Think that is true?

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Old 10-18-2018, 01:00 AM   #7259
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Too bad STI takeoffs arent s cheap anymore, they would be my choice in your situation. Personally Im not a fan of messing with offsets on winter setups. Id be scanning for 17" takeoffs first. Sometimes TR gets screwy with their list of what fits and doesnt between otherwise similar models.
For what its worth, I contacted tirerack and they were able to confirm the 17x7.5 +40 offset enkei ys5s would fit an 08 sti as well. I bought them and there is ~6mm clearance from the barrel to caliper, and ~3mm clearance from the caliper to existing wheel weights. I'd consider that a success!
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Pretty certain this is the place to ask.

Iíve been running WS80s for the past couple of years but wanted to try the Dunlop Wintersport 3Ds so bought me a set.

Anyone in CNJ have any input on how well they do up here?
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Need to get winter setup for my 2019 WRX Limited
Stock:
245/40-18 on 18x8.5 ET+55

Desired:
225/50/17 on 17x7.5 or 17x8 ET+48 or 50

I am looking on the TireRack for relatively cheap wheels, such as SportEdition or Moda (generally < $130 per wheel).

The cheap Enkei (Enkei Performance line) I can get for <$170 per wheel.

All appear to be gravity cast 1 pc wheels made in China and the weights vary from between 18.5 to 21.5 lbs.

I am NOT interested in buying even moderately priced (e.g., $200 to 250 per wheel) unless I am persuaded otherwise by the knowledgeable ones here.

In trying to research the quality of the wheels, I came across a few references to the SportEdition (in house TireRack brand) being soft, prone to going out of round, bending or outright spoke cracking.

Could find nothing about Moda except advertising hype.

I have had good experiences with all my OEM Enkei wheels (principally Hondas and Mazdas, not sure about the Toyotas).

Anyone have any experiences and/or references regarding the value/reliability/longevity of inexpensive SportEdition, Moda, etc. wheels pushed by TireRack or DiscountTire?

Thanks in advance.
I just bought a set of Velox Apex wheels for my STI (18x8) and they were under $500 (including tax, free shipping) for the set from Discount Tire Direct. The 17" wheels should be a little cheaper, look into some of those. As far as tires, I'm not sure whether to go with an All-Season or a Winter tire.
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Pretty certain this is the place to ask.

Iíve been running WS80s for the past couple of years but wanted to try the Dunlop Wintersport 3Ds so bought me a set.

Anyone in CNJ have any input on how well they do up here?
Those two tires are nothing alike. The Dunlop is a performance winter, the ws80 is a proper winter tire. The perf winter seems more suited to folks out your way, seems like any perf winter goes well there.
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I just bought a set of Velox Apex wheels for my STI (18x8) and they were under $500 (including tax, free shipping) for the set from Discount Tire Direct. The 17" wheels should be a little cheaper, look into some of those. As far as tires, I'm not sure whether to go with an All-Season or a Winter tire.
Same goes for you, same state. Performance winters usually go well out there from what Ive seen from folks. Do you have snow needs? Ice? Most of the midwest seems to do well on perf winters, proper winters might be overkill.
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