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01-22-2019, 08:25 AM | #1 | |
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2019 Honda Ridgeline AWD Black Edition
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01-22-2019, 10:45 AM | #2 |
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Only real change was the rear sliding glass and moonroof was added to the RTL and RTL-T trims which it mentions above. Nothing else noteworthy has changed except we figured out the rear doors can be modified to open fully, and there is now an OEM lock available for the tailgate.
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01-22-2019, 01:46 PM | #3 |
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Front styling and grille are more attractive, havent seen that before. Looks less like the straight carryover from Pilot.
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01-22-2019, 04:21 PM | #4 | |
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The Tacoma can haul 1,175lbs payload. If you were to max out the towing to the 6,400lbs that would mean the 640lb tongue weight comes out of the payload, meaning you're left with only 535lbs for passengers. That's gone really quick with a 4 passenger truck. Lets say you have a 5,000lb boat and your family of 4 to haul, to make it fair... so 500lbs on the tongue of each vehicle and lets say 425lbs of passengers. The Ridgeline has a payload capacity of 1,580lbs, so that leaves you with 1,080lbs of payload after the trailer and 655lbs of capacity for filling up the bed with camping supplies once you add in the family. The Tacoma has a payload capacity of 1,175lbs, so that leaves you with 675lbs of payload after the trailer and only 140lbs of capacity for the camping supplies. Edit: the trick is, now you've gotta load up your camping supplies on your trailer for the Tacoma... but with the Ridgeline you could put a pair of dirtbikes in the bed. Last edited by Calamity Jesus; 01-22-2019 at 04:26 PM. |
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01-23-2019, 09:29 AM | #5 | |
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01-23-2019, 10:12 AM | #6 |
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I paid $37k for a loaded Colorado 4x4 ZR2 highline crew pickup. So should pay for a minimal Honda? The truck is not selling well so I would expect some discounted special packaged models.
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01-23-2019, 10:46 AM | #7 |
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I looked hard at the Ridgeline, but when the time came to plop down my money, I went with an F150. More of everything (except leather and a moonroof) for the same price as the Black Edition, with a reasonable reduction in MPG. I am a big fan of the Ridgeline though!
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01-23-2019, 11:03 AM | #8 | |
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01-23-2019, 10:24 PM | #9 | |
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01-23-2019, 10:32 PM | #10 | |
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01-24-2019, 04:53 PM | #11 | |
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1) No port injection to keep the valves clean. 2) Timing belt instead of chain 3) VCM issues (my friend had issues with his Odyssey at 13k miles) 4) Only 6 forward gears I largely trust Honda, but those items were addressed with my Ford. I'm sure I'll have some other issue though. |
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01-24-2019, 06:44 PM | #12 |
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No machine is without its issues
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01-25-2019, 10:46 AM | #13 | |
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2) Not worried about this. Last gen Ridgeline, which I owned, is known for 300-400k. Lots of high mileage club (not that kind) on that forum. The V6 in it is well proven 3) Hasn't been an issue so so far on this new G2, and there is a defeater that many have purchased and installed 4) This is good. The transmission and the shift points are one of the best points about the truck. The 6 spd is durable (their new 10 spd gear hunts like a mofo) Only thing wrong with the truck was early assembly issues in 2016. |
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01-25-2019, 03:21 PM | #14 |
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Curious, whats the trim and model year to get for a used Gen 1 ridgeline? How did it do in snow? How far did you push it off road? What kind of mpg did you get? |
01-25-2019, 05:25 PM | #15 | |
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2010+ Refreshed interior and standard tow package on all trims. Production moved from Canada to Alabama. The only big issue with earlier RLs was a banjo bolt on the trans cooler that would corrode in winter weather. The part was upgraded sometime before 2010, and I would think most of them have probably had the bolt replaced by now (but if the truck is coming from somewhere without much corrosion, it'd be worth looking into). The fact that a single bolt rusting out is one of the biggest issues with the early trucks tells you a lot about what to worry about. I like the RTL (what I have) for the leather, sunroof, and stock sunroof. The 18s" and extra weight are a bit of a compromise. The AWD is FWD based and there's a momentary lag before power gets shunted rearward. You can spin the fronts in the dry if you just stand on the throttle from a stop. Driving remotely responsibly in the snow it goes and handles excellently. You can always manually lock the rear diff with the button on the dash while in 1 or R if you're worried about something extra slippery.. but I've never had any issues, despite driving in lots of snow and on loose, steep gravel. I've never had tires really worthy of off road on mine, only stock-style Michelin LTXs, so off-roading hasn't really interested me. I was really impressed with the approach and clearance while driving down some really crazy National Forest roads on the Olympic Peninsula while hunting for a xmas tree to cut. Best I ever got was 24mpg on slower freeway trips. I typically got 19 in mixed driving before adding an A.R.E. bed cap. Now I get 18mixed.. but really 16mpg because I rarely use it outside of town anymore. Re: DougNuts.. the F150 is a great truck. If you live in a HOA where you can't park a truck outside your house, they're a no-go since they won't fit in a typical suburban garage. |
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01-26-2019, 03:40 AM | #16 |
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out of all the trucks, in America, heck in the world...why would anyone choose a Honda Ridgeline is beyond me
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01-26-2019, 10:20 AM | #17 | |
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Once you get passed the "it ain't a real truck" machoism and look at what the average users do with trucks, it makes sense. May not be the right choice for you but it is a great choice for many. |
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01-27-2019, 12:05 PM | #18 |
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it's not more reliable than a Toyota, not sure what exactly you're referring to by driving dynamics , but again I'm sure a Taco has it beat there as well, especially with crawl control and also the manual option. Taco has equal gas milage and the Colorado has better MPG and diesel. The Taco looks better and so does every other truck in the entire galaxy. Similarly for offroading it's at the bottom of the list.
I'm not getting caught up on the "it's not a real truck" rhetoric, I just frankly don't see how it's a good option at all. I don't see how it's better than any other truck out there actually in any category... I mean this Black Edition is more expensive than a TRD Pro lol that's hilarious. It's nothing but an appearance package. I'd choose an Isuzu D-Max over this any day. Last edited by mcarb002; 01-27-2019 at 12:12 PM. |
01-27-2019, 12:12 PM | #19 |
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Theyre all great trucks, the segment is coming back and offering more good choices. They all even out to great trucks overall with different strengths.
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01-27-2019, 01:39 PM | #20 | |
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01-27-2019, 02:25 PM | #21 |
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excellent detailed response, I especially liked your thorough argumentation supported by facts and well thought out analogies. You sir are an excellent debater.
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01-27-2019, 02:35 PM | #22 |
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01-27-2019, 03:27 PM | #23 |
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It means that it drives and handles like a car, which the Tacoma does not. The Tacoma is a GREAT looking truck, but its poor MPG, power and flexible chassis is lacking. My coworker, who has a similar commute as I do, gets about the same MPG as my 470lb-ft 3.5TT gets. The Tacoma is a solid 2-3 MPG behind the Ridgeline, which is 10-15%.
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01-27-2019, 07:48 PM | #24 | |
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He never said it was more reliable than a Toyota, he simply said it’s just a reliable vehicle. The Toyota rides like ****, gets **** gas mileage and grossly over priced. Sure, the Toyota would put the largest spanking on the Honda when off roading but for people who simply want a small truck for daily road driving and are able to throw planters and misc **** from Home Depot in the bed, it’s a great choice. *Godfather owns a F150 but has enough common sense to see why the Ridgeline is appealing while mcarb seems to struggle with this.* |
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01-27-2019, 08:30 PM | #25 |
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for some reason I can't quote posts from my laptop..
to DougNuts, yes Tacoma doesn't handle like a car because...well, it's a real truck...has 4x4 , has a real locker, doesn't have a joke doughnut spare tire, has different ride height for legit offroad, different size tires etc. etc.. MPG is rated pretty much the same as the Ridgeline. Power? Again it's pretty much the same as the Ridgeline. Did I mention you can also get the Taco in manual? to godfather no I get it, it's basically a city car (Pilot) with a bed. So I get it if you live in NYC, Miami, LA, Chicago or something...but really I just don't get why choose it over the whole truck line up when you can get others that are more versatile and can do the same things and more. Plus, again, it looks hideous. Especially the older models my God. But I'll concede that's subjective. I just don't think it's good value for the money. Tacoma will certainly hold it's value better. Can do all the things a Ridgeline can and more. Well, I mentioned it's more reliable because just like you're bringing Tacoma's ride quality we're comparing pros and cons. Severely overpriced? hahahaha have you looked at the price for this "Black Edition" ??? it's just an appearance package for more than a TRD PRO! that's hilarious So basically the only incentive that you guys are able to bring up is that it just handles and rides better "aka" more like a car. Who would buy a truck just for that? lol Anyway, to each their own. Last edited by mcarb002; 01-27-2019 at 09:00 PM. |
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