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Old 11-05-2008, 01:30 PM   #76
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Thanks for posting this. I am going to do just about the same mods from them with my FMIC/Reg16G set-up soon.

In the mean time, great to hear your feedback. My feedback so far with Grimmspeed is that Rich has responded in detail to my email questions and elaborated in several areas. It has been a while since I have come across a vender that take that kind of time.

The only thing I am not going to do at first is the EWG b/c I like having a more "quiet car" this this might change in the future.
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Old 11-06-2008, 01:41 AM   #77
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Thanks for posting this. I am going to do just about the same mods from them with my FMIC/Reg16G set-up soon.

In the mean time, great to hear your feedback. My feedback so far with Grimmspeed is that Rich has responded in detail to my email questions and elaborated in several areas. It has been a while since I have come across a vender that take that kind of time.

The only thing I am not going to do at first is the EWG b/c I like having a more "quiet car" this this might change in the future.
Rich is phenomenal with customer service. He helped me out greatly with the install and I picked his brain for several hours at the shop to make sure I kinda understood what I was about to do. He was even kind enough to give me his cell number in case I ran into issues (which I did, since it was my first major install)!

Your right about the EWG being loud, I wasn't prepared for it, that's for sure. I have never heard an EWG car before, so it has been a new experience. However, the turbo spool is so much quicker compared to stock, I just don't know if I want to plumb it back into the exhaust.
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Old 11-06-2008, 10:41 AM   #78
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Rich pointed out that the plumbing back in needs to be well thought out so as not to create undue turbulence in the system. Seems to me like someone with a good hand at welding should be able to incorporate a dump-tube into a down-pipe at such an angle and distance from the turbo to make it work well.

well, I was lucky when someone said "yeah, an EWG is a great tool and a way we let the world know we are on boost."
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Old 11-06-2008, 04:52 PM   #79
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what size gasket did you get the big one or the smaller one.
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Old 11-07-2008, 12:44 AM   #80
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I didn't know they came in different sizes, I just called Rich and he sent me the ones I needed. If your not sure, just give them a call, they are more than willing to help.
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Old 11-07-2008, 01:52 AM   #81
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I got my Uncle Scotty's cocktail mix from Grimmspeed. Shipping took a little long, but other than that, everything was good. They are good people.
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Old 11-08-2008, 05:41 PM   #82
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I got my Uncle Scotty's cocktail mix from Grimmspeed. Shipping took a little long, but other than that, everything was good. They are good people.

kyle. thanks for the kind words. i apologize about the slight delay, we had just ran out of redline lightweight right before you ordered so it took a few days to get the next order from redline in.

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Old 11-10-2008, 06:43 PM   #83
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Ummm is this where I give a good review for everything for you guys?

I bought the IXZI (can't spell) Hood dampers around a yr ago from you guys and they are still AWESOME!

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Old 11-11-2008, 12:06 AM   #84
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Done with the compression test and the news is a green light. Plans are for:

-Throttle body
-Intake manifold
-Phenolic spacers
-TGV deletes
-Exhaust manifold with high flow center pipe
-Gaskets all around
and then wrapping everything I can get my hands on. Going with the coating on what I can't wrap.

The best part about it is I was recently tuned (again, I need to stop messing with my car after a tune) so when all is said and done I will be able to post before and after dyno graphs to get a hopefully good sense of what all this PnP madness is about Likely it will not be until Jan. but I will dig this thread back up and post results here...or link it, or whatever.
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Old 11-11-2008, 11:59 PM   #85
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Done with the compression test and the news is a green light. Plans are for:

-Throttle body
-Intake manifold
-Phenolic spacers
-TGV deletes
-Exhaust manifold with high flow center pipe
-Gaskets all around
and then wrapping everything I can get my hands on. Going with the coating on what I can't wrap.

The best part about it is I was recently tuned (again, I need to stop messing with my car after a tune) so when all is said and done I will be able to post before and after dyno graphs to get a hopefully good sense of what all this PnP madness is about Likely it will not be until Jan. but I will dig this thread back up and post results here...or link it, or whatever.
Sweet! More results!

Which I have as well. I decided to do some gas mileage with the E85 to see how it compares to stage 2. I was getting about 18 mpg in town and about 22 mpg on the highway running 91 octane on stage two. With E85 and this setup I got 17mpg highway (fighting a 30mph headwind with 45mph gusts) on one trip and 21mpg mixed highway (about 75%) and town (about 25%).

What's this prove? Well, that wind sucks on MPG, but also the fact that as long as you are tuned for E85, I don't think you lose all that much mpg. Certainly not enough to warrant losing the 10% hp increase and 14% torque increase!

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Old 11-15-2008, 08:03 PM   #86
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read the thread and make your own opinion, i know i have , notice no response after 3 days so i posted the thread as my review
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No offense, but you came off as a dick. I think when a manufacturer sells an aftermarket part, there is perhaps some understanding that the end user/installer needs to have some install savvy.

I'm not saying you don't. But, you clearly went about installing it the "hard" way, and then didn't realize you needed to extend your EGR pipe. Once you realized you mangled it, you went on to blame Grimmspeed.

I think this is less a "review" of a product, and more a gripe you have with what you clearly perceive as poor customer service. I don't think it's their responsibility to make a tube for you, nor do I think it's their responsibility to make tubes for future buyers. Yes, that would be a bonus for the end user/installer, but it's their choice.

From my perspective, you could have done some research up front and found out about this "problem". Some simple searching on my part came back with a few good results that would have set off an alarm in my mind before buying, that's for sure.
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No offense, but you came off as a dick. I think when a manufacturer sells an aftermarket part, there is perhaps some understanding that the end user/installer needs to have some install savvy.

I'm not saying you don't. But, you clearly went about installing it the "hard" way, and then didn't realize you needed to extend your EGR pipe. Once you realized you mangled it, you went on to blame Grimmspeed.

I think this is less a "review" of a product, and more a gripe you have with what you clearly perceive as poor customer service. I don't think it's their responsibility to make a tube for you, nor do I think it's their responsibility to make tubes for future buyers. Yes, that would be a bonus for the end user/installer, but it's their choice.

From my perspective, you could have done some research up front and found out about this "problem". Some simple searching on my part came back with a few good results that would have set off an alarm in my mind before buying, that's for sure.
umm exactly, poor customer service. like i said its cool he appologized, but failed to satisfy me so i wont be doing business with them anymore . i would rather pay a few extra bucks and be taken care of . ill find someone who wants my business . it doesnt matter how i came off. dude i worked in a resturant during college can u imagine how much ass i had to kiss? there are plenty of places who port and polish manifolds , ill go to the one that wouldnt have a problem welding me up a pipe for a few bucks.

thats all ,take from the exchange what you will and form your own opinion on weather or not this company will take care of your needs the way you feel like they should. hey i mean i dont wait in line at mc donalds, and i totally feel that mcdonalds service vibe coming from grimmspeed. not really in that neighboorhood . i look at the big picture, and if the guy cant help me out with something this little why would i ever send anything substantial like a head out to them?
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You did come off a bit like you thought you were owed something aboev and beyond what should have been expected because you were inconvenienced a little. Whenever I buy a part, I research others experiences so I can prepare myself for an easy install or one that may (or may not) require other custom work at the same time.

As Justin said in the other thread, it seems to be a problem specific to a small range of MY's/engine combo's. They can't possibly test every combo ever. That's why a lot of things say to have it installed professionally.

Grimmspeed is a very standup guy and takes care of his customers, but he can't be expected to do every small thing you wish and desire becaue an install didn't go perfectly for you and you did something that messed up your EGR.
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modding cars is an art and research is involved in order to avoid problems when making car parts do things they weren't designed by subaru to do.

the OP should have done that, or had them installed professionally.
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modding cars is an art and research is involved in order to avoid problems when making car parts do things they weren't designed by subaru to do.

the OP should have done that, or had them installed professionally.
did you miss where i wrote how i read the directions on their own web site that never stated this would be a issue . also did you read where grimmspeed admited fault by apologizing numerious times but just declined to help out . or the fact that they never sent an return email . dude the guy had to say he sent ,this is a public forum . he is lying though . why else would i say that? or the fact that he knew it could be a problem ?"thought" he posted about it but didnt ? but yea he sent a return email ok?

the fact is i did research it and didnt see anything about the egr pipe . i did searches on google and on here. the only reason i f'ed the pipe up is because knowing i read nothing about the potential pipe issue i tried to modify it , thinking that it should fit. its a $3 part you could fab up in 5 minutes with the correct tools. think about it . i would have paid those guys at least $30 to fab that up . what 1000% profit, come on.

i liked the merchandise they produced i have to give credit where it is due . just horrible customer service . i think that is what ive been saying all along
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You did come off a bit like you thought you were owed something aboev and beyond what should have been expected because you were inconvenienced a little. Whenever I buy a part, I research others experiences so I can prepare myself for an easy install or one that may (or may not) require other custom work at the same time.

As Justin said in the other thread, it seems to be a problem specific to a small range of MY's/engine combo's. They can't possibly test every combo ever. That's why a lot of things say to have it installed professionally.

Grimmspeed is a very standup guy and takes care of his customers, but he can't be expected to do every small thing you wish and desire becaue an install didn't go perfectly for you and you did something that messed up your EGR.
i never asked for anything . in this country when asked to do a service dont you get compensated with an agreed wage? i never asked him to hook that pipe up for free .

he just ignored me wtf nice customer service .
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Yes you did. You asked for a service they don't provide.


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in this country when asked to do a service dont you get compensated with an agreed wage? i never asked him to hook that pipe up for free.
Never claimed you asked for the pipe for free, but you asked them for a part/service they don't provide. That's like going to McDonald's and asking for a steak and getting pissed off when they decline service.

There's something I do when I install parts, and that's make sure I have a backup or I don't damage the originals to the extent to which I can't go back to stock. IMO, you should have seen the spacers weren't going to work, and simply reinstalled the manifold, done more research, contacted grimmspeed, etc before damaging parts. I've had to do this before and often ended up custom fabbing a part or adapter to make it work with my car.

Seriously, not to get personal, but your lack of capitalization, proper grammar, spouting off at anyone and everyone (especially in your other thread), and your belief that any company could possibly be sued because they sold an aftermarket part that required further modification to your car is quite naive. If I owned a business, I would do what I could at first (like Grimmspeed did apologize, contact you, etc) but then once you were being unreasonable, I'd ditch you. Seriously. Like someone said, modding a car is an art. If everything was as easy as unbolt, insert, rebolt, we'd all be driving super "custom" cars.

Grimmspeed has an upstanding reputation and thinking that you can somehow bring them down as a single unknown person who presents himself as unknowledgable and confrontational is ridiculous. You've pushed it to the point where you're unwilling to listen to anyone or reason and no one would want to deal with you. Accept your limitations, learn from them, and don't make the same mistake again and quit trying to make others take the blame for your actions.
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Yes you did. You asked for a service they don't provide.




Never claimed you asked for the pipe for free, but you asked them for a part/service they don't provide. That's like going to McDonald's and asking for a steak and getting pissed off when they decline service.

There's something I do when I install parts, and that's make sure I have a backup or I don't damage the originals to the extent to which I can't go back to stock. IMO, you should have seen the spacers weren't going to work, and simply reinstalled the manifold, done more research, contacted grimmspeed, etc before damaging parts. I've had to do this before and often ended up custom fabbing a part or adapter to make it work with my car.

Seriously, not to get personal, but your lack of capitalization, proper grammar, spouting off at anyone and everyone (especially in your other thread), and your belief that any company could possibly be sued because they sold an aftermarket part that required further modification to your car is quite naive. If I owned a business, I would do what I could at first (like Grimmspeed did apologize, contact you, etc) but then once you were being unreasonable, I'd ditch you. Seriously. Like someone said, modding a car is an art. If everything was as easy as unbolt, insert, rebolt, we'd all be driving super "custom" cars.

Grimmspeed has an upstanding reputation and thinking that you can somehow bring them down as a single unknown person who presents himself as unknowledgable and confrontational is ridiculous. You've pushed it to the point where you're unwilling to listen to anyone or reason and no one would want to deal with you. Accept your limitations, learn from them, and don't make the same mistake again and quit trying to make others take the blame for your actions.
god its so sad that you guys accept that and would be willing to act like that "if you had a business".

yes mcdonalds again! i never go to mc donalds. the establishments i dine in , would provide whatever service i saw fit and then hand me a bill at the end. im sorry that you just dont get it.

i have no problem modifying whatever needs to be done. but the company clearly states the spacers are "bolt 0n". and when i got mine the weren't. and then was ignored , god your nieve!!!!! it had nothing to do with my attitude, i guarentee if i ordered 2 cases of those i would have gotten better serivce. i guess your used to mc donalds/ wal mart type service. sorry i am not. the customer is allways right. and thats it . if you dont believe that trust me youll be out of business sooner than later . you guys act like we live in iran or something like i should just accept horrible serivice , i feel so sad for our youth.

its pretty obvious to me that grimmspeed has two divisions , manufactoring, and retail. im sure the are a great manufactor. for their sake and the sake of their customers i sure hope they hire someone to make their retail side top notch.

i dont know if you get this or not but im not some poor subprime sucker, and grimmspeed has definatly lost alot of money by not keeping me happy.

i dont need to be reviewed . i simply posted my experiance with a vendor . take from it what you will. and leave it at that .

sorry for spelling or punctuation or whatever , im typing on my blackberry in route to a meeting right now and definatly dont even think of proof reading an internet forum post , good day all.
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god its so sad that you guys accept that and would be willing to act like that "if you had a business".
As I said, there comes a point where it obvious the customer isn't going to be satisfied with any realistic outcome because they feel they are entitled to something more than they are worth.

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yes mcdonalds again! i never go to mc donalds. the establishments i dine in , would provide whatever service i saw fit and then hand me a bill at the end.
I don't go to McDonald's either. You mentioned Micky D's in your other thread so I assumed you had experience with them and could relate to the analogy.


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have no problem modifying whatever needs to be done. but the company clearly states the spacers are "bolt 0n". and when i got mine the weren't.
If you have no problem with it, then do the work and don't bitch about it and accept that nothing is perfect.

Never assume anything is bolt on no matter what anyone says. This is what everyone is getting at.

I own an 06 WRX. Many manufacturers state that parts are bolt on for 02-07 even though the different manifold and different flywheel for the 06/07 cause many many problems. Even the DBW TB causes problems.

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and then was ignored.
They've replied to your other thread multiple times AND stated that they don't answer e-mails on weekends. You weren't ignored, you just didn't get the asnwer you wanted. There's a difference.

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i guarentee if i ordered 2 cases of those i would have gotten better serivce. i guess your used to mc donalds/ wal mart type service.
I haven't orderd two cases of anything from Grimmspeed and get excellent service. Sorry, don't go to McD's and only go to walmart when its closer and I need one or two items.

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i dont know if you get this or not but im not some poor subprime sucker.
Why do you assume I'm a poor subprime sucker? I have an excellent credit score, got my car loan at 0%, owe no money anyone, have an excellent salary, etc etc. There are plenty of well to do people on these boards, and plenty of those that spend their college tuition on car parts. Assuming that you, without knowing anyone else personally, are better off and more entitled being is naive. Thinking that we'll think better of you because you say you're not a subprime sucker is also naive. How about a good dose of humility?


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and definatly dont even think of proof reading an internet forum post , good day all.
Any job worth doing is doing well. On an internet forum, the only thing you have supporting your claims of character traits/staus/what have you is what you present with your written word. You, good sir, come off as uneducated and quick to jump to conclusions.

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sorry if i am quick to jump to conclusions . it is in my nature .

i do not fix the problem because i dont have access to a welder.

anyway just got a pm from grimmspeed and they are now willing to take care of the pipe for $25 .

so even though it took them a while ulitmatly they took care of me famously.

thanks for your help grimmspeed when the new pipe shows up on wed ill send it out to you.

im so happy now with grimmspeed i feel like pulling off my manifold and sending to them to be p+p. lets wait until we get the pipe back though and see how that goes.
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As I said, there comes a point where it obvious the customer isn't going to be satisfied with any realistic outcome because they feel they are entitled to something more than they are worth.



I don't go to McDonald's either. You mentioned Micky D's in your other thread so I assumed you had experience with them and could relate to the analogy.




If you have no problem with it, then do the work and don't bitch about it and accept that nothing is perfect.

Never assume anything is bolt on no matter what anyone says. This is what everyone is getting at.

I own an 06 WRX. Many manufacturers state that parts are bolt on for 02-07 even though the different manifold and different flywheel for the 06/07 cause many many problems. Even the DBW TB causes problems.



They've replied to your other thread multiple times AND stated that they don't answer e-mails on weekends. You weren't ignored, you just didn't get the asnwer you wanted. There's a difference.



I haven't orderd two cases of anything from Grimmspeed and get excellent service. Sorry, don't go to McD's and only go to walmart when its closer and I need one or two items.



Why do you assume I'm a poor subprime sucker? I have an excellent credit score, got my car loan at 0%, owe no money anyone, have an excellent salary, etc etc. There are plenty of well to do people on these boards, and plenty of those that spend their college tuition on car parts. Assuming that you, without knowing anyone else personally, are better off and more entitled being is naive. Thinking that we'll think better of you because you say you're not a subprime sucker is also naive. How about a good dose of humility?




Any job worth doing is doing well. On an internet forum, the only thing you have supporting your claims of character traits/staus/what have you is what you present with your written word. You, good sir, come off as uneducated and quick to jump to conclusions.
life is short play hard my friend, if you knew me i am quite humble. but when you attack me for simply stating my opinion when your grammar is far from perfect. look at your last post. "ANY JOB WORTH DOING IS DOING WELL" ok so i mean if we have the red pen out , come on i didnt assume anything i took the retailer at their word that these were bolt on. thats false advertisement. would you go into a shop that advertised gas powered lawnmower, purchase it then when you got home it was a plug in . would you settle for that? i think not . you would want your goods or services that were advertised for the price advertised. there was no fine print or warning that said , "not applicable on some models" i didnt even ask them to help me out for free . you would be upset too and feel somewhat scammed im sure.

the same way you say i am unknown ,grimmspeed was to me . this was my first dealings with them. i ordered something from them, paid for it, and when i got it , it wasnt as advertised.

i wasnt even offered my money back or anything. it was just like ohh sorry you got the shaft nothing we can do. come on now would you be all , ohh those grimmspeed guys haha they offer great service? i think not.

like i said though they have finally offered to do ask i asked and that is fab me up the proper pipe for the product the sold me. thanks again grimmspeed
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but when you attack me for simply stating my opinion when your grammar is far from perfect. look at your last post. "ANY JOB WORTH DOING IS DOING WELL" ok so i mean if we have the red pen out ,
Never said I was perfect either, but also didn't start out spouting off I wasn't a subprime loser. 1 missed word is a bit less than no capitalization, several mispelled words, run on sentences.

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would you go into a shop that advertised gas powered lawnmower, purchase it then when you got home it was a plug in . would you settle for that?
Parts intended for modification and complete end user products do not fall into the same category.


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you would be upset too and feel somewhat scammed im sure.

I woudl be disappointed, but not feel scammed as that is the nature of modding cars. Some parts fit, some parts don't. Manufacturers can't test each and every possible combination.

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the same way you say i am unknown ,grimmspeed was to me . this was my first dealings with them. i ordered something from them, paid for it, and when i got it , it wasnt as advertised.

like i said though they have finally offered to do ask i asked and that is fab me up the proper pipe for the product the sold me. thanks again grimmspeed

But Grimmspeed is well known on these boards so you should have found it odd that a lot of people support Grimmspeed if this is the service they always have.


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like i said though they have finally offered to do ask i asked and that is fab me up the proper pipe for the product the sold me. thanks again grimmspeed
Grimmspeed is willing to work with their customers if you can be patient enough. They are a standup company that is here for the car enthusiast.

Glad you found a solution. In the future though, never assume a bolt on part is bolt on. After all, superchargers are bolt on too (they just require you to change a lot of other parts )
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So I realized this the other day in stop and go traffic on 494 but actually tried it again here in town Sat. night to see how well it worked. With the new parts installed I can cruise in first gear at idle without the car stalling. Evan able to climb slight grades! This is quite nice in traffic jams.
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